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The Miseducation of Jimbo Slice

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭Wollwead


    Cheers dude, I think it's a foot positioning issue for me so! I think my stance is too narrow (standing foot directly in front of the 'resting' foot). I think what I need to do is obviously widen that by a few inches until it feels right.

    Thanks for the advice. Keep up the good work, you're a bleedin machine with the volume of training you get through!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<I'm gonna be a mighty king...>>

    Messing about

    Turkish Get Ups:
    16kg KB x 5 minutes continuous
    24kg KB x a few reps strung together




    First time doing multiple reps with the 24kg KB. Was pretty happy out with that. Think I'll probably take the rest of the week off grappling because I'm really tired and need a break. Trained hard up to the munsters so a week off or so will do me good. Will probably hit the mats on Saturday.

    Gonna do some more KB work tonight and probs go for a run.

    Sometimes it's nice being lazy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<Woah-oh-oh-oh...>>

    KayBees

    Clean and Press Ladder (3 rounds w/ 90 sec recovery):
    24kg KB x 1-2-3-4-5-6

    TGUs:
    16kg KB x5 minute continuous (2 reps per hand before switching)

    Single Hand Swings:
    16kg KB x50 per hand


    The C&P ladders were grand. Ish. Switched hands after each "block" of reps and was strict pressing all the reps. Might be time to get a new heavier KB!

    TGUs were alright. Bit tougher keeping the KB in the same hand for multiple reps. I don't want to jump to the 24 too soon and cause problems so I'm making the 16 harder.

    Swings were hand to hand - ie switching in mid air. Hardest part about them was counting the reps and not getting confused by the alternating hands. Yes, I'm smrt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Killme00


    Next comp is in eight weeks. Time to reverse this result!!

    ea89448f#ha94981d


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Killme00 wrote: »
    Next comp is in eight weeks. Time to reverse this result!!

    ea89448f#ha94981d

    Can't see the posters.... deets??

    But that's sweet.... Still another 6 months of beginner nogi and probably a year+ of white belt to go :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Killme00


    Hanley wrote: »
    Can't see the posters.... deets??

    But that's sweet.... Still another 6 months of beginner nogi and probably a year+ of white belt to go :D

    deets? It's a picture of you on one side of a ref and the guy who beat you on the other with his hand raised in vistory. For motivisualisation, you know!!

    As for details. http://www.strongvon.com/irishcup/m_tournament_main.jsp?mod=ts&tournament_id=723

    Saturday 27th Aug, Donneycarney Dublin 5

    Edit for linkage to the pictures: http://www.soundofphotography.com/p560049608/ea89448f#h1ec0c0dc


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Killme00 wrote: »
    deets? It's a picture of you on one side of a ref and the guy who beat you on the other with his hand raised in vistory. For motivisualisation, you know!!

    Deja vu more like. It's literally 4 days before my accounting finals. I'll have to see about it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<No one saying 'see here'...>>

    Kondishonion

    Run:
    1km warm up
    2km for time - 8 minutes 32 seconds, 182 average HR, 190 max HR
    1km cool down

    Well that was a pretty pathetic time!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<Pull up in your limousine...>>

    "Exercise"

    All of the following was done in a continuous circuit...

    Clean and Press Ladder:
    24kg KB x 1-2-3 - 5 rounds
    Time: 6 minutes 14 seconds, average HR: 154

    4km run - 23 minutes and 25 seconds
    First 2km - 11min 43sec, average HR: 157
    Second 2km - 11min 42sec, average HR: 158

    Turkish Get Up Ladder:
    16kg KB x1-2-3 - 3 rounds
    Time: 8min 13sec, average HR: 156

    So totals...

    37min 53 sec, average HR: 156

    Good session.

    Took an easy week and still got 4 alright sessions in. Looking forward to next week :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<All the crazy sh*t…>>

    MONDAY

    BJJ - 2 hours
    -good intense warm up
    -some drilling on blocking the cross face and escapes when the guy twists in side control
    -45 minute tap and change

    Felt good to be back on the mats. I was rolling decently enough and felt fresh. I opened up a big cut under my chin tho which has gotten very nasty and scabby over the last few days so I’m off the mats til that heals.

    TUESDAY

    GF’s birthday. Took the night off training as a present to her. She better have appreciated it.

    WEDNESDAY

    KB Clean and Press Ladder:
    24kg KB x1-2-3-4-5 - 5 rounds with 1 minute between rounds

    KB Kurlz:
    16kg KB x12-7-6rp

    The KB stuff was grand. Each round took between 2min 5sec and 2min 15sec. HR peaked at like 172bpm. Time to move up to a heavier KB me thinks. Anyone wanna buy me a 32??

    The KB Kurlz were good craic. Very different feeling to DBs.

    THURSDAY

    Gonna hit up a run later… somewhere between 4 and 8km


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,558 ✭✭✭COH


    [QUOTE=Hanley;73290134TUESDAY

    GF’s birthday. Took the night off training as a present to her. She better have appreciated it.

    [/QUOTE]

    How many black eyes does she have?

    2 - She didn't appreciate it at all
    1 - She appreciated it but forgot to make you a cake
    0 - She didn't appreciate it but has far superior striking to you so f*ck all you could do about it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    COH wrote: »
    How many black eyes does she have?

    2 - She didn't appreciate it at all
    1 - She appreciated it but forgot to make you a cake
    0 - She didn't appreciate it but has far superior striking to you so f*ck all you could do about it

    Well... her dad's south african, so she kinda has two.

    But if we're talking about ones inflicted by me - zero. She probably does have better striking than me, but that's not hard. I much prefer to close the distance, pull guard and throw a triangle on. You get both choking AND tit crushing, and it doesn't leave any marks.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<No funny business....>>

    SATURDAY

    11km run - 1 hour 33 seconds

    Average heart rate - 155bpm


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<Maybe I should ride a blimp...>>

    Caybees

    TGUs:
    24kg KB x5 minutes continuous, switching hands each rep

    Clean and Press Ladder (no rest):
    24kg KB x1-2-3 - 5 rounds

    Snatch:
    16kg KB - 100 reps in about 5 minutes (10 reps a had and switch)


    I'm RIDICULOUSLY excited about having moved up to the 24kg for get ups. I've been wanting that for a while now. Very tough, but I'll stick with it over the next few weeks and hopefully see it get better as shoulder health improves.

    The C&Ps were ridiculously easy.

    I just started doing the snatches to do some. I've never done em before so was messing about as I went trying to see how to improve them. They got smoother as the sets went on and by the 4th and 5th I was cracking them out with my right hand, left still has a bit (heh... I mean, a lot) of work to do. Working towards the RKC test standard of 100 snatches in 5 minutes with a 24kg KB.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<One less hungry mouth on welfare...>>

    Bettlekells

    Snatch:
    16kg KB 3x10 e/s
    24kg KG 3x5 e/s

    Clean and Press Ladder:
    24kg KB x1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 (5 minutes 30 seconds)

    Swings:
    24kg KB x150 (50 reps, 45 second rest x3)

    Snatch:
    16kg KB 5x5

    KB Kurlzz:
    16kg 3x10 e/s

    I'm getting sick of not getting to train BJJ. The KBs are providing a distraction, but not else. I'll do some TGUs and go for a run tomorrow.

    Happy out wit the stuff today. Got a good bit of snatching in. Still undecided about the RKC cert, but I want to be able to pass their snatch test regardless.

    Pressing was very strong. I'd love to get to 10 rungs doing that. Suppose I should put up for the 32kg KB now at this stage but I dropped a ton of cash on the doctor today so not exactly arsed. It's my birthday on Sunday, so if anyone wants to get me a 32kg comp KB, that'd be super.

    Swings were mega tough. Forearms were thrashed by the end of it. Everything else was ok.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<Drums a thumping...>>

    MORNING

    TGUs:
    24kg KB x5 minutes continuous, switching hands each rep

    EVENING

    C*ntditioning

    Snatch:
    16kg KB x5 minutes continuous

    Work Block - 10 minutes, 7 rounds:
    OH squat w/ 16kg KB x5 e/s
    Plank w/ hand and foot tab x10
    Push ups x10

    2km Run

    10 hill springs

    2km run

    TOTAL TIME - 42 minutes (not including rest)
    AVERAGE HR - 152, MAX HR - 185

    What a load of g*y. Not really doing anything productive there. Just getting work in and trying to keep sane. May as well not bother.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,338 ✭✭✭the drifter


    jeebus 5 min of kb snatches....id sooner get a tooth pulled


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    jeebus 5 min of kb snatches....id sooner get a tooth pulled

    Mneh... it really wasn't too bad. I took it very handy, it was just tekkers practice. I did almost 100 in 5 minutes the other day, only did about 60 during that sesh today.

    My training's just exceptionally directionless atm. Can't run long distance cos my body's not ready for it, need to grab a bigger KB before the presses and swings challenge me there... Drysdale seminar tomorrow at least.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,338 ✭✭✭the drifter


    sorry i must have been distracted and replied to you log by mistake...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,398 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Hanley wrote: »
    11km run - 1 hour 33 seconds
    Average heart rate - 155bpm
    I take it you are keeping your HR around 150-160 for max cardio gain (or similar)

    How did you arrive that that figure, is it a % of MHR or just pulled from the air.
    Hanley wrote: »
    Working towards the RKC test standard of 100 snatches in 5 minutes with a 24kg KB.

    Thinking about this myself also.
    I've done like 30 with 24 before,
    I'll prob try go back and hit 100 with 16kg, then 18kg, then 20kg


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Mellor wrote: »
    I take it you are keeping your HR around 150-160 for max cardio gain (or similar)

    How did you arrive that that figure, is it a % of MHR or just pulled from the air.

    During my runs I try to keep it to a max of 150. I've been reading a lot of Joel Jamieson's stuff. He goes into great detail about the different types of fitness and work capacity that need to be trained, a good aerobic base being one of the most important. It's something I've neglected, so I'm putting some time into it now.

    Basically he was saying that maximum stroke volume in the left ventricle occurs between 120 and 150bpm, working in that range for extended periods of time (60-90 minutes) will increase the capacity of the chamber and thus your ability to pump more oxygenated blood around your body with each heart beat.

    Work at a higher bpm and the hypertrophy never occurs because your heart is never full with blood (ie it's beating too fast to allow for full volume). There's a whole load of other stuff that follows on like how depending on the training you've done prior your body will either be able to use the oxygen efficiently (oxidative ability) but won't supply high levels of power output (ie explosive effort) or it won't use it effectively and you'll be real explosive for a short amount of time, but despite of a low resting heart rate and good stroke volume, you'll still gas quickly (glycolytic ability).

    If you come from a weight training background it tends to be the latter. And I've noticed that to an extent myself. The solution to that is something he calls high intensity continuous effort (HICT), which is basically extended full/lower body resistance work for 15-20 minutes x2 w/ 8-10 minutes recovery.

    So like cycling but with the resistance only allowing you to do 30ish rpm, using a versa climber, uphill lunges, that sort of thing. Basically stuff where there's sufficient resistance over a long period of time to make your legs start to develop their ability to work for continuos periods of time.

    I'm still doing a lot of research into it all, and trying to get my head around it. So right now, I'm just developing my aerobic base. BUT I can't run for 90 minutes yet cos my knees can't hack it, so I'm just trying to get some weighted work in and gradually increase my mileage over the weeks. First goal is 20+km a week.

    Think of the above in the context of people bashing LIT and how it's not important... Makes you think eh?

    Bet you weren't expecting a reply like that.

    EDIT: Also, I'd expect most of this will have very little tangible carryover into my performance on the mats, but it's something cool that I want to play about with anyway. It should allow me to train fresher for longer too. Which WILL help.
    Thinking about this myself also.
    I've done like 30 with 24 before,
    I'll prob try go back and hit 100 with 16kg, then 18kg, then 20kg

    I did 100 with 16kg in 5 the other day and it was pretty hand. Wasn't even plannin on it, just worked out that way.

    I'm just going to keep practicing my snatches, and work swings and presses with progressively heavier KBs. It's all in Enter The Kettlebell by Pavel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭Dathai


    Hanley wrote: »

    EDIT: Also, I'd expect most of this will have very little tangible carryover into my performance on the mats, but it's something cool that I want to play about with anyway. It should allow me to train fresher for longer too. Which WILL help.

    I'd imagine 5 - 10 minutes of KB swings would have a greater carryover for your performance on the mat than running, no?. I'd presume whatever benefits you pick up from the running will have a benefit to your mat performance - mental focus and pace would be what I'd be thinking of rather than your cardio state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,398 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Hanley wrote: »
    Bet you weren't expecting a reply like that.
    No, but thanks for going into that kind of detail.
    HR is something I've ignore tbh, I'm only getting back to a level where it might matter now. I knew to ignore the fat-loss zone but never considered it matters in terms from heart capacity/hypertrophy. Which is kinda silly, when you think how precise people are about 3/5/8/12+ reps for strength vs size vrs endurance gains. Your heart is clearly the most important muscle.

    My cardio training has consisted over run a little longer, run a little faster, run a little longer etc.
    I did 100 with 16kg in 5 the other day and it was pretty hand. Wasn't even plannin on it, just worked out that way.

    I'm just going to keep practicing my snatches, and work swings and presses with progressively heavier KBs. It's all in Enter The Kettlebell by Pavel.

    You have it in my head, so i'll try 100 reps at 16kg this weekend. But since the last time i tried them, I've seen a vid about the RKC challange, and a load of my reps would be no counts. Fine going up, but i was letting some come to my shoulder first on the way down.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Dathai wrote: »
    I'd imagine 5 - 10 minutes of KB swings would have a greater carryover for your performance on the mat than running, no?. I'd presume whatever benefits you pick up from the running will have a benefit to your mat performance - mental focus and pace would be what I'd be thinking of rather than your cardio state.

    It's about identifying what's holding you back. Everything works as an integrated unit. Even your strongest point (for me say < 3-5 minute efforts) is limited by the weakest. I could continue to bang my head against the wall doing KB swings and see only marginal improvement, or I could work on the things that are proportionally less developed so that when I come back to the more sport specific stuff I can push that further.

    A lot of your recovery between rounds, ability to output high levels of force consistently and keep working later in rounds is down to where your anaerobic threshold lies. The longer you can keep going before crossing that and the higher your energy output at that level, the better your performance.

    Best way to train those qualities? Increased aerobic ability, amongst other things.

    You wouldn't try to push the same qualities or program when training with weights for months on end, so why would I do it with my conditioning? there's more than one area to develop.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Mellor wrote: »
    No, but thanks for going into that kind of detail.
    HR is something I've ignore tbh, I'm only getting back to a level where it might matter now. I knew to ignore the fat-loss zone but never considered it matters in terms from heart capacity/hypertrophy. Which is kinda silly, when you think how precise people are about 3/5/8/12+ reps for strength vs size vrs endurance gains. Your heart is clearly the most important muscle.

    My cardio training has consisted over run a little longer, run a little faster, run a little longer etc.

    Haha yeah I'm the same. I'm still skeptical of it all to an extent, but the only way to get to the bottom of whether it works or not is to try it!!
    You have it in my head, so i'll try 100 reps at 16kg this weekend. But since the last time i tried them, I've seen a vid about the RKC challange, and a load of my reps would be no counts. Fine going up, but i was letting some come to my shoulder first on the way down.

    Ohhhh.... yeah.... that's not good :D

    Firing it back between your legs means you can cycle thru them faster tho, so all's not lost :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<Forget about the price tag...>>

    BJJ - Robert Drysdale Seminar - 3 hours

    I don't even know where to start with this - the guy is incredible. He showed us a ton of stuff to do from half guard, how to escape to the back, a method to free your arm, sweeps galore.

    There was an extensive Q&A session which I kind of took over with turtle questions... He did a really good bit on side control and how to avoid being pinned and havin to escape in the first place.

    We all got to roll with him... thought I'd passed from standing and then got sweeped. As you'd expect. I actually ended up having a good roll with some of the other guys. Hit my first two cross collar chokes ever. Only trained 1x since the munsters but I've been thinking about them ever since and it seems to have worked. I'm gonna be beating the hell out of them for the next while trying to get proficient.

    Really psyched to get training hard again now on study levae next month.

    Congrats to Dave, Rohan and Andy on their blues, and TJ on going from a white belt to two stripe purple in about 20 minutes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭Barry.Oglesby


    That's all well and good but you're only as good as your last cartwheel. And your last cartwheel was ****e.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    That's all well and good but you're only as good as your last cartwheel. And your last cartwheel was ****e.

    Technically, after several poor attempts, my last cartwheel was good. Your one and only attempt however.... Well....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<On and on and on…>>

    Serious lack of updates because life is, as usual, getting in the way

    BJJ

    FRIDAY - 90 minutes
    -drilling and videoing stuff from the drysdale seminar
    -about 20-30 minute of rolling with Barry

    SATURDAY - 90 minutes
    -more drilling of the seminar stuff
    -rolls with Stephen, Rohan and Barry

    MONDAY - 2 hours
    -Coach Lucas in the house
    -Worked side control positions first (block off hips with knee and elbow on far side, deep arm and crossface with bicep, knee to ribs and slide up to take arm away, get knee up under their shoulder to take them out of line and prevent shrimp)
    -Arm bar from there stepping the outside leg all the way around and under their head, closing up feet and falling back to arm bar, if they sit up, straight to triangle
    -Then he showed us some weird horrible chanky arm bar thing tha is just beyond me
    -Managed to sweep TJ for like the first time ever using my favourite half guard sweep, and he promptly arm barred me, but hey, at least I scored points on him, then I started bugging him for tips - first was when I have that whizzer, to get my hand flat on my chest, from side control bump away and then to the guy on second effort to unsettle their weight, use loads of little bumps instead of one big one), saw a cool transition to triangle after trying for kimura from guard
    -Few tips from Tom on the mount, and then scissor/tripod sweep - I’m determined to make that one work for me

    Jude-jitsu with TJ tonight - looking forward to that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Hanley wrote: »

    Jude-jitsu

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