Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 2009-2011

deise_boi · 27-06-2011 09:42PM

mccarthy37 wrote: »

Challenge match played Saturday morning Waterford 3. 19 Wexford 0. 19

any idea what the lineup was?

mccarthy37 · 27-06-2011 10:33PM

Wexford had a strong squad we used a second string team. It was only a challenge, remember our minors lost most of their challenges. Chuck seems to be playing it very cute look how well they have done when it matters

Mountainlad · 27-06-2011 11:21PM

I think Tom Kelly should be a mod!

deisedude · 27-06-2011 11:31PM

With regards the football draw personally i think it was stupid having a third bowl especially when they are using fecking cylinders instead of balls. Heres how i would have done it

Bowl 1: Beaten provincial semi finalists
Bowl 2: Winners of round 1 of qualifiers

For the first pairing of teams one cylinder is taken from each bowl and we are told the team from bowl 1 will have the home draw. Teams are then revealed

For the second pairing its the opposite with bowl 2 team having home draw

Third pairing and bowl 1 team again gets home draw and then the pattern will continue as outlined until all the pairings are picked. The result being you have 4 teams from each bowl getting a home draw. Of course this would make too much sense for RTE to follow

With regards the suggestion that draws are rigged. Using Cork Tipp as an example is ridiculous. There are 5 teams in munster hurling, predicting they might meet in the quarter or semi final doesnt prove the draw is rigged. Anyway it would make far more sense to keep them apart until the munster final since they draw the bigger crowds to games

mccarthy37 · 27-06-2011 11:46PM

I think everybody on this site will be sad to hear that Ger Loughnane is in hospital battling Leukemia. My best wish'es go out to him.

STIG83 · 27-06-2011 11:51PM

mccarthy37 wrote: »

I think everybody on this site will be sad to hear that Ger Loughnane is in hospital battling Leukemia. My best wish'es go out to him.

I heard that today, I hope he will be ok, I like Ger on the Sunday Game.

deisebhoy17 · 28-06-2011 11:17AM

mccarthy37 wrote: »

Challenge match played Saturday morning Waterford 3. 19 Wexford 0. 19

No Goals conceded? At least thats something

Deise Tom · 28-06-2011 12:30PM

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

No Goals conceded? At least thats something

The same will have to happen against Tipp to beat them. This game however should give confidence as its known it can be done.

alllcounty · 28-06-2011 12:56PM

Deise Tom wrote: »

The same will have to happen against Tipp to beat them. This game however should give confidence as its known it can be done.

Depends who we have at number 1 and number 3. I'll reckon clinton will be taking the ball out of the net at least 3 times maybe 4. Should match them for points scored though.

Deise Tom · 28-06-2011 01:16PM

alllcounty wrote: »

Depends who we have at number 1 and number 3. I'll reckon clinton will be taking the ball out of the net at least 3 times maybe 4. Should match them for points scored though.

I would have Clinton and Lawlor there. I know there is plenty that wont agree, but so be it. I think the big thing will be the puck out itself. If the short puck out is used, i think that it is putting the Waterford full back line under pressure straight away. I know that there is some that will say that the Waterford half forward line is not good enough to attack (is that the right word) a long puck out, but i would go with it, and take our chances that they can break it for the centre field pairing or the full forward line and hope that we will get scores that way.

Psychedelic · 28-06-2011 01:29PM

I called Munster GAA and they said the Blackrock End terrace will be for Waterford supporters.

calvin_zola · 28-06-2011 02:44PM

Psychedelic wrote: »

I called Munster GAA and they said the Blackrock End terrace will be for Waterford supporters.

memories of 01 :eek:

Psychedelic · 28-06-2011 05:07PM

calvin_zola wrote: »

memories of 01 :eek:

Did we lose to Tipp in a semi final then? I think that was the first ever Waterford hurling game I went to.

Deise Tom · 28-06-2011 05:19PM

Psychedelic wrote: »

I called Munster GAA and they said the Blackrock End terrace will be for Waterford supporters.

Having had to deal with them in the past you done well to get an answer from some of those working in the offices. They used only communicate with County Secretaries or a nominated person in their absence and people that were involved in different committees of the council.

deiseach · 28-06-2011 05:53PM

Psychedelic wrote: »

Did we lose to Tipp in a semi final then? I think that was the first ever Waterford hurling game I went to.

Lost to Limerick having led by 2-6 to 0-1 after 15 mins. Thought our moment in the sun had passed. Thankfully I was wrong.

deiseach · 28-06-2011 06:49PM

Now that I think about, we were 2-5 to 0-2 up against Limerick in 2003 and the Minors were 3-5 to 0-3 up on Saturday! Is it any wonder neutrals love us? :rolleyes:

Deise Tom · 28-06-2011 10:04PM

deiseach wrote: »

Now that I think about, we were 2-5 to 0-2 up against Limerick in 2003 and the Minors were 3-5 to 0-3 up on Saturday! Is it any wonder neutrals love us? :rolleyes:

Were 3-7 to 0-3 up just before Limerick got their first goal the other night.

Mountainlad · 28-06-2011 11:47PM

To be fair lads, minor hurlers, things like this happen.

Daysha · 29-06-2011 02:11AM

Ah 2003 against Limerick, probably the greatest game nobody will ever know about. Even though I was at it there's very little I can remember about the game tbh. The one memory that does stand out was Mullane hand-passing the ball into an empty net

We were able to laugh about it when we eventually qualified in the replay, but if we ended up losing that game he'd probably never forgive himself.

But apart from that nothing really stands out. I hadn't even realised we were so far up in the game, and I only have a vague recollection of one camera being allowed on pitch-level for extremely brief highlights that night.

Fentdog84 · 29-06-2011 03:50AM

Daysha wrote: »

Ah 2003 against Limerick, probably the greatest game nobody will ever know about. Even though I was at it there's very little I can remember about the game tbh. The one memory that does stand out was Mullane hand-passing the ball into an empty net We were able to laugh about it when we eventually qualified in the replay, but if we ended up losing that game he'd probably never forgive himself.

But apart from that nothing really stands out. I hadn't even realised we were so far up in the game, and I only have a vague recollection of one camera being allowed on pitch-level for extremely brief highlights that night.

The only thing I remember about this "famous" game is Kieran O' Connor's commenatary is "HERE'S THAT MAN FLYNNERS, PAUL FLYNN.. TAKES HIS SHOT...ITS A GOOOOAAAALLLL!!!!!".. happy days..

deisebhoy17 · 29-06-2011 08:06AM

Daysha wrote: »

Ah 2003 against Limerick, probably the greatest game nobody will ever know about. Even though I was at it there's very little I can remember about the game tbh. The one memory that does stand out was Mullane hand-passing the ball into an empty net We were able to laugh about it when we eventually qualified in the replay, but if we ended up losing that game he'd probably never forgive himself.

But apart from that nothing really stands out. I hadn't even realised we were so far up in the game, and I only have a vague recollection of one camera being allowed on pitch-level for extremely brief highlights that night.

I watched it on Youtube a couple years back, the entire game. Ametuer footage someone recorded it with commentary from Limerick local radio. I dont know if its still up. It was an incredible game I remember the day well. Sweltering heat and Thurles packed to the rafters. finished 4-13 each a game that had everything. I remember the atmosphere in Thurles that day it was as good as Ive ever seen. Just makes you realise how much the crowds have gone back when you think of 15000 in Thurles for the recent Munster semi final. Down the square before hand you' hardly realise there was a game on.
Then again those were different times, economically and it was 2 counties with huge expectations at the time. Limerick after 3 u21s in a row apparantly on the brink of greatness and Waterford were favourites for the AI the same year.

Deise Tom · 29-06-2011 08:27AM

Mountainlad wrote: »

To be fair lads, minor hurlers, things like this happen.

Agree 100%, its all part of the learning process.

Deise Tom · 29-06-2011 08:30AM

Daysha wrote: »

Ah 2003 against Limerick, probably the greatest game nobody will ever know about. Even though I was at it there's very little I can remember about the game tbh. The one memory that does stand out was Mullane hand-passing the ball into an empty net We were able to laugh about it when we eventually qualified in the replay, but if we ended up losing that game he'd probably never forgive himself.

But apart from that nothing really stands out. I hadn't even realised we were so far up in the game, and I only have a vague recollection of one camera being allowed on pitch-level for extremely brief highlights that night.

I was in the South of France for the replay, and could not find any place that was showing the game, would it have been on Tara TV at the time. I know one of the games was not shown because of some dispute. A group gathered around a phone and someone rang home, the phone was left near a radio and a summeray of Kieran's commentry was given. There was Euro coins been looked for everyplace.

calvin_zola · 29-06-2011 08:33AM

That was a great game not for the faint hearted, I remember I had a broken foot and was on crutches so was like a dog I had to go in the stand and not the terrace.... Mullane was after serving a 9month ban and this was his first game back, ppl didnt even think he'd start on the day (he may have been AN.Other in the lineup),Alan Kirwin full back/corner back aswell.... from the throw in the game was 90 miles an hour amazing,
Then during the game maybe 14 mins in I seen the best goal of my life, words can't describe it, amazing is all I can say, Browne sent ina sideline or a cross and flynn rose above the two defenders on the edge of the box to one handedly hook it into the net over Houillihan in the goal....

Mullane got the ball at the 45 at the sideline and sprinted all the way in for a goal, absolutely amazing what a way to mark your comeback, strike of lightening with his pace and then a thunderbolt of a shot -

Brick walsh announced his name on the scene at the death of the game, Limerick had possession and Moran was winding up for a shot 45 yards out in front of the goal, surely a point guaranteed and Brick less hurley sprinted for him, propelled himself forward and bloacked the ball as it left the hurley with his helmet, amazing stuff altogether, Brill if your a neutral!

calvin_zola · 29-06-2011 08:35AM

Deise Tom wrote: »

I was in the South of France for the replay, and could not find any place that was showing the game, would it have been on Tara TV at the time. I know one of the games was not shown because of some dispute. A group gathered around a phone and someone rang home, the phone was left near a radio and a summeray of Kieran's commentry was given. There was Euro coins been looked for everyplace.

the first game was not shown but the second game was, the second game was a bit of a borefest but a victory none the less..... I listened to it on an online radio in Krakow, Poland!

Giveitfong · 29-06-2011 10:11AM

Having seen the TG4 highlights of Saturday's minor match, I want to make two changes to my match report. The mistake I attributed to goalkeeper Paddy Cooke for Limerick's first goal was actually the fault of one of the full backs. Sorry Paddy! And Dónie Breathnach's point was scored in extra time, not in normal time. Dónie was also unlucky when he broke through the middle and slipped the ball past the keeper but it just rolled the wrong side of the post. It would have been a great goal.

A key feature of the 2003 senior match between Waterford and Limerick was the dreadful refereeing of Pat Aherne of Carlow. I don't think he every refereed a big game after that.

hardybuck · 29-06-2011 10:22AM

Mountainlad wrote: »

To be fair lads, minor hurlers, things like this happen.

Excellent point. Also, while we always like to see every Waterford team do well and win trophies, the important thing here is the development of adult players. What we don't want is to overburden and burn out kids. Look at Galway's example.

deiseach · 29-06-2011 10:48AM

Mountainlad wrote: »

To be fair lads, minor hurlers, things like this happen.

Oh, I'm not having a go. I'm not even having a go at the Seniors. It's all part of the rich tapestry that is following Waterford. But Jesus, it can be stressful on the old ticker!

Deise Hurler · 29-06-2011 10:50AM

calvin_zola wrote: »

,Alan Kirwin full back/corner back aswell....

Pity Kirwan is still not there. Best man marker in Waterford club hurling. Over the last few years he has marked all of the big name forwards on our county team, while playing for Ballygunner, and any time I have seen him he has always comes out on top. Remember a county final from a few years ago. Jamie Kearney from Ballyduff Upper was having the game of his life, roasting Tommy Power first and then Wayne Hutchinson. After about 40 minutes of action he had 7 points from play. Peter Queally then moved Kirwan onto Kearney and Kearney barely touched the ball for the rest of the match. Could have been the answer to our full back problem if given time to settle into the position. Fell out with Justin in 2003, was dropped from the panel at the end of that year and has never played for the county team since.

deiseach · 29-06-2011 11:00AM

Daysha wrote: »

Ah 2003 against Limerick, probably the greatest game nobody will ever know about.

I wrote a keyboard-eroding 3,874 words on that one which must be worth about four frames of TV coverage. It was that good/I was that boring/all of the above. And alas, as Giveitfong notes, it was one of only two occasions where I've felt the need to give the ref a bollocking (the other being Aodhan Mac Suibhne against Cork in 1999). People often bang about 'letting the game flow' and Pat Aherne certainly did that, only giving nine frees in the entire second half. But I'm of the school of thought that if it's a foul it's a foul, and being lenient played into Limerick's more (ahem) robust hands. Still, Paddy Joe Ryan's comments about refs from weaker counties was crass.

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