Will The Queen Apologize for the Past?

lcrcboy · 11-05-2011 7:20pm #1

When the Queen arrives do you think she will Apologize for the past occupation or will she avoid the topic completely. Does she have to apologize because of what happened in the past or should she represent Britain's current understanding and recognition of Ireland, what do you think??

stimpson · 11-05-2011 7:22pm

I imagine she will.

I doubt it will make any difference to the average republican hardliner.

My name is URL · 11-05-2011 7:22pm

I hope she doesn't tbph, but reckon she will.. It would only be an empty gesture anyway and I doubt it will appease the people who're still very much hung up on history.

Thatnastyboy · 11-05-2011 7:23pm

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,

MR. CONWAY TWITTY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ej9Dqhe5p4

mikemac · 11-05-2011 7:25pm

If she goes to Croke Park she will

And that will be it, one statement at Croke Park

And the usual suspects here on boards will be demanding more

They'd want a sackcloth and ashes apology
Oops! Where have I heard that phrase before

xxtattyberxx · 11-05-2011 7:25pm

I can see a 'bart simpson' apology but I dont think it'll make any difference at this stage. Peoples minds are made up and some people are very much about their history

Dionysus · 11-05-2011 7:26pm

lcrcboy wrote: »

When the Queen arrives do you think she will Apologize for the past occupation or will she avoid the topic completely. Does she have to apologize because of what happened in the past or should she represent Britain's current understanding and recognition of Ireland, what do you think??

I'd be fairly certain by the end of her visit to Dublin it will be Irish people who'll be apologising. You don't need to be Nostradamus to know this visit is not going to be good for Ireland Inc.

steddyeddy · 11-05-2011 7:28pm

My name is URL wrote: »

I hope she doesn't tbph, but reckon she will.. It would only be an empty gesture anyway and I doubt it will appease the people who're still hung up on history.

Should the japanese not have apologised to the chinese?
Should the german people not have apologised for the crimes against the jewish peoples?
Should austrailia not have apologised for their treatment of the first nation tribes in austraila?
Should america not have apologised for their treatment of african peoples?

All these happened in the past yet they have been apologised for. There has been few apologies for the injustices and murders of the past in this Island north and south of the border. Many people who have lost family and friends in the north for example are still alive, an apology is needed. A statement like "people hung up on history" is born out of ignorance in paticular to the activities that went on in the north.

KeithAFC · 11-05-2011 7:29pm

She probably will.

Rented Mule · 11-05-2011 7:30pm

Did the Queen fart or something ?

hondasam · 11-05-2011 7:33pm

lcrcboy wrote: »

When the Queen arrives do you think she will Apologize for the past occupation or will she avoid the topic completely. Does she have to apologize because of what happened in the past or should she represent Britain's current understanding and recognition of Ireland, what do you think??

Some people will not be happy no matter what she does. Time we moved on, stop living in the past.

KeithAFC · 11-05-2011 7:34pm

Many people who have lost family and friends in the north for example are still alive, an apology is needed. A statement like "people hung up on history" is born out of ignorance in paticular to the activities that went on in the north.

Will the IRA apologise what they did to Lord Mountbatten?

3hn2givr7mx1sc · 11-05-2011 7:35pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSHaCzb3yYk

Something along those lines?

cosanostra · 11-05-2011 7:36pm

It will be a well worded apology something like i'm sorry for the suffering the conflict between our two nations has caused!

If its at Croke Park she wont say i'm sorry for our lot coming in here and opening fire on everything that moved and then taking the moral high ground on world affairs.

steddyeddy · 11-05-2011 7:37pm

Im not hung up on history but an apology is needed. Im not against her visit nor would I want more than an apology. Im happy that were building bonds with the British by showing them the bueaty of our Island.

Chinasea · 11-05-2011 7:38pm

when we apoligise for invading the UK ever since

Randomer. · 11-05-2011 7:38pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

Will the IRA apologise what they did to Lord Mountbatten?

There wouldn't have been an IRA if it wasn't for the British Empire, so that point makes no sense.

Athlone_Bhoy · 11-05-2011 7:41pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

Will the IRA apologise what they did to Lord Mountbatten?

A very legit target. Maybe we'll get her when she comes here.

She should say sorry for the past just like the IRA did, but whats she going to say? I'm sorry my country committed genocide against Ireland. If she said that it would be enough for me personally, will she? Not a chance.

My name is URL · 11-05-2011 7:42pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

Should the japanese not have apologised to the chinese?
Should the german people not have apologised for the crimes against the jewish peoples?
Should austrailia not have apologised for their treatment of the first nation tribes in austraila?
Should america not have apologised for their treatment of african peoples?

All these happened in the past yet they have been apologised for. There has been few apologies for the injustices and murders of the past in this Island north and south of the border. Many people who have lost family and friends in the north for example are still alive, an apology is needed. A statement like "people hung up on history" is born out of ignorance in paticular to the activities that went on in the north.

Those are fair points. I'm sure the people who have lost loved ones would certainly welcome an apology. I still don't believe that any apology will be enough to appease the people who are most vocal in demanding one.

Pauleta · 11-05-2011 7:44pm

Athlone_Bhoy wrote: »

A very legit target. Maybe we'll get her when she comes here.

She should say sorry for the past just like the IRA did, but whats she going to say? I'm sorry my country committed genocide against Ireland. If she said that it would be enough for me personally, will she? Not a chance.

You're in the IRA?

mike65 · 11-05-2011 7:44pm

lcrcboy wrote: »

When the Queen arrives do you think she will Apologize for the past occupation or will she avoid the topic completely. Does she have to apologize because of what happened in the past or should she represent Britain's current understanding and recognition of Ireland, what do you think??

she might apologise :mad:

Spook_ie · 11-05-2011 7:45pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

Should the japanese not have apologised to the chinese?
Should the german people not have apologised for the crimes against the jewish peoples?
Should austrailia not have apologised for their treatment of the first nation tribes in austraila?
Should america not have apologised for their treatment of african peoples?

All these happened in the past yet they have been apologised for. There has been few apologies for the injustices and murders of the past in this Island north and south of the border. Many people who have lost family and friends in the north for example are still alive, an apology is needed. A statement like "people hung up on history" is born out of ignorance in paticular to the activities that went on in the north.

So anyone apologising for the murder of the people in the Birmingham Bombings, The Manchester Bombings, The London Bombings, The disappeared, in fact has anyone apologised.

I do recall the PM David Cameron apologising about the bloody Sunday in Derry but apologies in general seem very thin on the ground.

steddyeddy · 11-05-2011 7:45pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

Will the IRA apologise what they did to Lord Mountbatten?

They should!

catbear · 11-05-2011 7:46pm

I think it will go something like this;
"We apologize for the great harm visited upon Ireland and if we had known what depths of destitution our careless inaction could lead to we would have made more effort to protect this land and not let it fall into the hands of the Gombeen King. Now can we please have our monogramed postboxes back, family property you know."
Short and sweet.

steddyeddy · 11-05-2011 7:46pm

Spook_ie wrote: »

So anyone apologising for the murder of the people in the Birmingham Bombings, The Manchester Bombings, The London Bombings, The disappeared, in fact has anyone apologised.

I do recall the PM David Cameron apologising about the bloody Sunday in Derry but apologies in general seem very thin on the ground.

As I said the Ira should apologise for all innocent people murdered, where did I say they shouldnt?

PS a lot of ira members have apologised for the killing of innocent peoples im still waiting on an apologies from many more groups in northern Ireland like some former members of the ruc to name one.

Xivilai · 11-05-2011 7:47pm

As for the Mountbatten thing, I think they need to apologise for killing his family members and the young Irish boy too

My name is URL · 11-05-2011 7:49pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

Will the IRA apologise what they did to Lord Mountbatten?

What's the point in anyone ever apologising for anything if that sort of childish mindset is the basis for it.

steddyeddy · 11-05-2011 7:49pm

My name is URL wrote: »

Those are fair points. I'm sure the people who have lost loved ones would certainly welcome an apology. I still don't believe that any apology will be enough to appease the people who are most vocal in demanding one.

Some people wont be happy but I might get slack for this but I dont think the queen represents the worst elements of the British empire in fairness but as head of state an apology would be required.

KeithAFC · 11-05-2011 7:50pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

They should!

Thats why i asked the question Steddyeddy because we keep hearing about apologies and yet it seems one sided.

CorkMan · 11-05-2011 7:51pm

Yes, hello..I think we got an official statement from Buckingham Palace, it says:

NEVA!!!

steddyeddy · 11-05-2011 7:51pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

Thats why i asked the question Steddyeddy because we keep hearing about apologies and yet it seems one sided.

The Ira should apologise for all innocent victims and civilian casualties which were not part of the war.

Will The Queen Apologize for the Past?

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