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Guide - the Budget Gaming PC
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True about the software, but I wasn't counting that as part of the budget.
And HWVS wasn't around last time I did a custom build (which was a few years back
). I'm digging through there for comparative pricing now.
edit: Hm. Looks like €25 less for the same spec from HWVS including delivery.
Has anyone managed to give a full address to them for delivery though? I can't get even half the delivery address into their website forms...0 -
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I thought so too, but it's the whole programmer working for EA Games bit that gave me pause (he worked on the latest Call of Duty for example). I figure the guy looking at the code should at least get a listening-toIrishMetalhead wrote: »why would he recommend a high end cpu when you really need to worry about the graphics card?
Odds are, reality will put a foot on my budget's neck, but I figured I could at least look, even if I wind up doing the budget box now and a better box in 8-12 months time.
Cheers IMH, appreciated.edit: also i'll have a look for you in a minute bit busy with a client atm =/
True that. A quieter box would also be nice, and if I'm going to swap out parts in a year, it'd be nice if the other parts didn't fall apart in that timeframe.edit 2: also you should consider upgrading the case as you'll need better airflow with higher end parts as they will run slightly hotter
It's just that it's hard to tell a quality case from a crappy-but-made-from-transparent-stuff-to-look-cool case based on a few photos and a pricetag 0 -
Never make assumptions based on brand or appearence with cases - always hunt down reviews!
And the CX430 is rubbish, period. Its horribly unsuitable for the proposed build as it gives little (and unstable!) 12V power, and both the i7 and the GTX460 have a substantial appetite for said
You need a PSU capable of pumping out 490-550W of 12V power alone for such a build
In any case, the older HyperThreading in the Nehalems is useless for gaming, so you'd really want the i7-2600K and its newer spin on HT if you were adamant on using a workstation-class CPU for the build. Otherwise you should wait for non-borked P67 mobos to show up in volume and get an i5-2500K instead. No HT, but stupidly fast and less power-hungry 0 -
Heres what I would put up against that comp you posted earlier.
it has a better, newer graphics card, it has a sandybridge i5 and has a brilliant case for airflow, total came to €743.62 including shipping:
I can post links to all of them components if you like 0 -
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the case will mainly because of it's two 140mm fans but i see your point about the cpu cooler i would suggest a corsair a70 more but i chose the artic freezer 7 because it's still a good cooler and it would help keep costs down 0
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Hmm... a new model... the older Revoltecs were pretty revolting :P
And the next step up from the AF7 is a Xigmatek Gaia or Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus. Both are great coolers yet very cheap for their class. Problem is I don't know if either are LGA1155-compatible 0 -
700-odd is definitely a lot more tempting than 800-odd...
...but part of me is wondering if it'd be a better idea to invest in a good solid set of parts for the budget box now and upgrade the mobo and cpu later on (and retire the older cpu and mobo to a networked HDPC or even a NAS setup)?
Budget now and full-blown later on?
Hm.
(This is, by the way, what they call a nice problem to have
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Definitely not looking for flashy, I'm way too old for that
Solid construction, enough room to avoid tight fits while not being the size of a small fridge, and no sharp edges (I've lost too much blood and skin to those in the past) make up my criteria
The Fractal 3 looks like it'd fit the bill nicely - have you used one before?0 -
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The plan is to rip out the cpu and motherboard in 6-12 months Teabag, so it shouldn't come to that.
Objective is to be able to play COD4, Battlefield 3, Team Fortress 2 and Falcon 4.0 (and a small host of earlier games). The rig should handle that and the upgraded i7 rig should handle the upcoming games later on this year.
(And you're welcome about the pulled pork - try the chilli too! ) 0 -
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The budget build, mk2.So what are you actually ordering Sparks?
Which is a mix of my original build and IMH's recommendations:
CPU|AMD Athlon II X3 445|€63.19
Cooling|Artic Cooling Freezer 7|€15.73
Motherboard|ASRock M3A770DE|€54.10
RAM|4GB Mushkin Silverline Stiletto|€33.64
Graphics Card|Gainward GeForce GTX 460 Golden Sample|€186.21
HDD|1TB Samsung SpinPoint F3|€46.61
Optical|Samsung SH-223C DVD+RW|€16.61
Case|Fractal R3 (black)|€91.69
PSU:|Super-Flower Amazon 550W|€51.47
Shipping||€30
Total||€589.25
It's over my initial budget, but I'm convincing myself that I can just look at the first digit and be happy enough because I've futureproofed myself and therefore saved money in the long run
(I'm ignoring the voice in my head pointing out that I could just play Angry Birds instead and save even more money )
Yeah, but looking at Tom's DirectX11 performance graphs, the top slots are mixed between 480s, 560s and radeons. I'm not really convinced that the 560s are worth the extra €40-80 they're charging, and really not convinced the 580s are worth the extra €200 or so they're charging. There's 2Gb on the 460 card in that build, I'm thinking that should be enough to last a year or two before it becomes too underpoweredYou can see in the estimated specs that focus is very heavily on graphics cards. The bigger question is whether that GTX460 with 2Gb at 700MHz is going to be better than the Gainward GTH version with 1Gb at 800Mhz. I'm thinking that having more room on the card beats being able to shuffle stuff on and off the card more quickly though. 0 -
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Yes, just realised I had number blindness and was reading 480 as 460 because I was focussing on the 560s and 580s at the top end
Maybe the extra 20-30 euro for a 560 is worth it after all
I'd lean towards the Palit myself because of the extra cooling (being paranoid about overclocking stuff). Any thoughts? 0 -
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I tend to lean heavily towards nVidia for 3D stuff because of some really fun times trying to get ATI cards to work under linux. These days, that fun is hopefully a thing of the past, but since the card will one day wind up in a linux box (the guts of this machine are getting ripped out in 6-12 months to be replaced with an i7 core while the Athlon goes on to run a HTPC setup and the graphics card will eventually get pulled for that as well) the old prejudices die hard 0
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