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Guide - the Budget Gaming PC
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I think this build is somewhat more appropriate...
Add a DVD burner and a few cheap 120mm fans and you come up to €600 for an upper-mid-range gaming rig with a 3GHz quadcore CPU with tons of cache and a GPU that laughs at Full HD
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I think this build is somewhat more appropriate...
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Add a DVD burner and a few cheap 120mm fans and you come up to €600 for an upper-mid-range gaming rig with a 3GHz quadcore CPU with tons of cache and a GPU that laughs at Full HD
Many
's to you
Before I go and buy anything, all the wires for the internals (Like powering the HDD), are these provided with the purchases, or do I need to source these?
+ 2*This
Roughly €580 + postage
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Uhm... I know the mobo comes with at least one SATA cable, no idea if it has the second though because optical drives don't always supply one and HDDs never do
And yes, the Gainward supplies a HDMI port but you'll need a HDMI cable if you don't have one already! 0 -
So, before I go ahead buying, my final list is:
MoBo
RAM
GPU
CPU
HDD
Case
PSU
Card Reader
DVD-RW Drive
The total cost of all of the above is €560.96
I also have a mouse and HDMI cable picked out. And a piece of DDR2 RAM to throw into my old PC because that'll still be getting some use.
The overall cost of everything I'm buying is €592.51:D (Without a keyboard)
I'd just ask that you could double check everything above will be compatible.
Many thanks to all the people who have helped me, and been quite patient with me :P
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Bear in mind that shipping costs €30 and you can't buy their keyboards as the Germans use a different key layout
Aside from that, regarding your earlier post 120mm fans start from €2.50 unlit and €4.50 lit (cheapest is blue LEDs
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CPU is very out of stock (i.e. no set delivery date); you might have to downgrade to the X4-925 unless you're willing to wait And your silver card reader is the wrong colour - your case is black 
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for starters, is student discount any help in any of the sites you're using?
Nope, sorry.is it better to come up with something on my own and then subject it to the higher authorities( that would be you, experienced users) or simply ask for an advice from the very beginning?
Either way works. If you're gaming you can do some research on this thread or other gaming build threads where you see people spending about the same amount of money as you. You need to work out how much money you can spend on the PC, subtracting whatever money you need to spend on a new monitor/OS/peripherals (which can come to quite a bit!). You also need to tell us what you want to do with the new rig in order for us to help you
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Best practice is as follows:I'm about to start working on my built.. for starters, is student discount any help in any of the sites you're using? Also, last time I attempted something like that was about million pints ago.. is it better to come up with something on my own and then subject it to the higher authorities( that would be you, experienced users) or simply ask for an advice from the very beginning?- What you have now.
- What you use it for.
- What it's not doing.
- What you want it to do.
- Budget.
- Possible upgrades you'd like in the future.
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Unregistered. wrote: »Best practice is as follows:
- What you have now.
- What you use it for.
- What it's not doing.
- What you want it to do.
- Budget.
- Possible upgrades you'd like in the future.
I've only a laptop, which I'd love to start leaving at work. Other than that, I've good enough speakers. What I'm looking for is storage space, the option of adding an extra graphic card and prob some additional memory down the road. I'll be using it for gaming, mostly NBA 2K11, but sure something else will come up once I get my Steam account I will need a monitor too, so it'll go over 600 for sure, the budget would be anything around 800, but I'm willing to go as far as 1000 if it makes sense.
As in to Solitair's recommendation, I've been following the building and upgrading thread for a while now and seeing how you're able to help everyone I've kicked myself in the behind and decided to get a long wanted desktop. So far I've seen mostly lower budgets, perhaps because users building stronger computers are experienced enough to pick their parts, which is not the case here 0 -
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Bear in mind that shipping costs €30 and you can't buy their keyboards as the Germans use a different key layout
Aside from that, regarding your earlier post 120mm fans start from €2.50 unlit and €4.50 lit (cheapest is blue LEDs)
CPU is very out of stock (i.e. no set delivery date); you might have to downgrade to the X4-925 unless you're willing to wait And your silver card reader is the wrong colour - your case is black
Thanks for the head up as regard the Card Reader :P
Gonna go for this instead
Also, I intend to start purchasing around December so I can exhaust any other routes of getting cheaper stuff 2nd hand from people I know.
Also, will the 120mm fans fit in automatically? AAANDDDD while looking through an ancient computer I have I found a 60mm fan on the CPU heatsink. I don't intend on reusing that PC ever again, and this is the only thing I think worth salvaging. Would it be worth using? IF I can find the power type though :P0 -
Thanks for the head up as regard the Card Reader :P
Gonna go for this instead
Also, I intend to start purchasing around December so I can exhaust any other routes of getting cheaper stuff 2nd hand from people I know.
You do know this renders your current build less than irrelevant?:P Come back in December! Much will have changed by then...Also, will the 120mm fans fit in automatically?
Good point! Virtually any sub-€20 fan on the planet will come with a pack of self-tapping screws but they are utter ****es to play with so if you could find a bumper pack of these you won't go wrong. I can't find the big cheap 12- and 20-packs of these that HWVS and a few others used to sell thoughAAANDDDD while looking through an ancient computer I have I found a 60mm fan on the CPU heatsink. I don't intend on reusing that PC ever again, and this is the only thing I think worth salvaging. Would it be worth using?
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You do know this renders your current build less than irrelevant?:P Come back in December! Much will have changed by then...
Good point! Virtually any sub-€20 fan on the planet will come with a pack of self-tapping screws but they are utter ****es to play with so if you could find a bumper pack of these you won't go wrong. I can't find the big cheap 12- and 20-packs of these that HWVS and a few others used to sell though
Absolutely ...not!
Thanks a million. I'll keep an eye out for prices and such until December. Then I'll be back, asking again, then buying.0 -
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The SuperFlowers are an insanely mixed bag; some almost Corsair-like units mixed in with some timebombs that Solytech would be proud of The Amazon range is one of the better ones; they're basically garish Corsair clones with few but decent reviews and decent efficiency and stability. They used to be laughably overpriced but I noticed that recently the prices have halved making them extremely competitve units; they blow those nasty Coolermaster GX units out of the water 0
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of the above builds for 550-650 which one would you go for if your main priority was for photoshop and working with large raw image files
I'd be tempted to go with the i5-760 build above, using the spare ~€30 of your €650 budget to upgrade the mobo to something a bit more classy and/or add an aftermarket cooler. IMHO the above build is fine as-is so long as you don't intend to overclock it and fine for light OC if you throw on a Hyper 212+ (once it reappears) or even an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev2.0. A better mobo will cost you an extra €15 for the MSI H55M-E33 (or the cheap Asus, but it has eff-all onboard sound 
) so getting the cooler as well would put you overbudget (€655 shipped) marco_polo wrote: »So there are still a few exploding varities around then
Yep, older ones mostly. I don't trust the nicely understated-looking 550W unit either as €35 doesn't usually buy you that much PSU... 0 -
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The HWVS Gainward is pretty much the best graphics deal on the planet right now And the X4-945 should NOT be confused with the X4-940 on Pix; while both are nice juicy cache-heavy 3GHz quads the former is a 95W AM3 part that usually runs on DDR3 while the latter is a thirsty 125W AM2 part that can only run on an AM2 mobo with DDR2 0
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The HWVS Gainward is pretty much the best graphics deal on the planet right now And the X4-945 should NOT be confused with the X4-940 on Pix; while both are nice juicy cache-heavy 3GHz quads the former is a 95W AM3 part that usually runs on DDR3 while the latter is a thirsty 125W AM2 part that can only run on an AM2 mobo with DDR2
Thanks a million.
Wasn't 100% sure about the AM2/AM3 thing
So I should go for:
GPU
CPU
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Yes
Only in the way of slightly lower stock clocks, and this has far more to do with managing the CPU's power envelope than actual performance constraints
The vast majority of them, yes. Most PC games favour either dual or quad threads, XBox ports need three fast cores or they go down the pan, and PS3 ports need at least a tricore too or they bail, and prefer lots of slower cores to few fast ones. Many PC titles are fairly adaptable but trying to run a modern console port on a dualcore CPU results in a massive drop in FPS
Length of string to moon? :pac: All depends on the game, what resolution you're playing at and what quality you enjoy. On average most mid-range builds get by fine on a cheap AM3 tricore running at 2.5GHz+ even up to 1080p; upper-mid-range builds running GTX460s and the like prefer 2.5GHz+ quads and ones with decent L3 cache to boot. High-end multi-monitor builds sporting HD5850s and/or multiple GPUs really need the grunt of an i5 quad (preferably OC'd!) or better!0
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