Why is Enda the man to take us forward?

Aodan83 · 23-02-2011 05:20PM

jonnysimples wrote: »

+1

I'm voting Fine Gael, not because I want Enda as leader but because I believe they are the strongest party to take us through the next 5 years. IMO, this country can expect a minimum of three more years of strife and I want a party that will have the balls to make the tough and unpopular decisions and I believe FG will do that.

I find it hard to believe that any of the parties in this country will make the decisions needed to get us through the next five years. I think Fianna Fáil made similar promises before and we all know that never happened.
That said I'd vote for Fine Gael long before I'd give a Fianna Fáiler my vote, or even a preference.

dolphin city · 23-02-2011 05:21PM

Irish politics is like a long running soap opera - same oul faces wheeled out time and time again with different agendas.

will there ever come a time when we don't have to decide between Tweedledum, Tweedldummer and Tweeldedummest and get some new blood in.

The three biggest parties in Ireland are all the same - a right wing self interested shower of ugliness - and I am including Labour in that. There is no trace of ethics about the Labour party today - they are all out for themselves also and will blend nicely into FG if they get both get in.

sanbrafyffe · 23-02-2011 05:27PM

richard bruton would be a disaster.god all ye fianna fail turn coats will you please leave enda kenny alone.just cuase yere own party failed and cost ye your jobs dont be putting pressure on enda.hes being in polotics since hes 24 and is well respected by other party members especially seen when bruton challenged him.he is well liked in europe and getting more liked.

he is honest and i met him myself and he is a gentleman with no corruption tendencies like the past fianna failers

he will work hard to get this country back to power and will ave the right people to help him and hopefully he will be remembered for it

as he stated last nite that the anniversary of the 1916 proclomation is in 5 years time and by then he wants the imf to be gone out of this country by then

that is the best line ive heard from any plotician yet as he is patriotic to men and women who fought hard for this state

they didnt fight hard for these shower to come into our country but they will continue while we have a shower like the fianna failers ruling it

vote fg
vote for ireland

Copper23 · 23-02-2011 05:28PM

jonnysimples wrote: »

+1

I'm voting Fine Gael, not because I want Enda as leader but because I believe they are the strongest party to take us through the next 5 years. IMO, this country can expect a minimum of three more years of strife and I want a party that will have the balls to make the tough and unpopular decisions and I believe FG will do that.

Thats fair enough. But my real question was WHY do you believe they are the strongest and best to lead us?

I'm not saying they are or are not but other than being a big party and basically being perceived as the opposite of FF (which they aren't really), I haven't seen what else they have got to really convince me?

mikehunts · 23-02-2011 05:44PM

I think that not one of those useless sons of bitc... is fit to run tap water. They come out week after week with the same crap, we are for the people we will get this country up and running, all they want is to line their own pockets so they can retire happily.

Brenireland · 23-02-2011 07:09PM

sanbrafyffe wrote: »

richard bruton would be a disaster.god all ye fianna fail turn coats will you please leave enda kenny alone.just cuase yere own party failed and cost ye your jobs dont be putting pressure on enda.hes being in polotics since hes 24 and is well respected by other party members especially seen when bruton challenged him.he is well liked in europe and getting more liked.

he is honest and i met him myself and he is a gentleman with no corruption tendencies like the past fianna failers

he will work hard to get this country back to power and will ave the right people to help him and hopefully he will be remembered for it

as he stated last nite that the anniversary of the 1916 proclomation is in 5 years time and by then he wants the imf to be gone out of this country by then

that is the best line ive heard from any plotician yet as he is patriotic to men and women who fought hard for this state

they didnt fight hard for these shower to come into our country but they will continue while we have a shower like the fianna failers ruling it

vote fg
vote for ireland

Here,Here.

Hank_Jones · 23-02-2011 07:14PM

I'm voting FG because of Richard Bruton, no other reason.

Enda Kenny is an awful gobsheen, no doubt he'll ruin it for himself.

Reminds me of Lloyd Bridges in Hot Shots: Part Deux, people know the man is an idiot, but he seems totally oblivious himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC-BNp61JjI

philstar · 23-02-2011 07:23PM

imagine havin a prime minister/taoisach with a name like Enda:rolleyes:

every Enda i ever knew was always a mammy's boy

Badgermonkey · 23-02-2011 07:25PM

Crosáidí wrote: »

'Cause People are blinded by the Waffle and Spin and will vote in another right wing party which will screw us over again

Or, perhaps they subscribe to a different political ideology than you.

Just a thought.

zuroph · 23-02-2011 07:27PM

It galls me to vote FG considering;

A) the contempt Enda has shown for the public with his lack of "availability" for radio and TV interviews,

Lucinda Creighton junior spokesperson on equality's anti gay marriage stance, and outdated opinion that marriage is for having babies (so people who cant have kids shouldnt be allowed marry either?)

C) Their obvious in party bickering.

but.. and this is the clincher, I have to vote for them. The economy is the most urgent problem we have, and voting in a left party with far too many ties to the unions is not going to fix our expenditure. So thats Labour out.
Sin Féin, gtfo, bunch of murderous scum. I could not let them be in charge of our Gardaí after Jerry mcCabe, and the political circus that came after.
Greens, not a chance.
independents, lol. Not going to be able to do anything up there, except maybe push for an occasional local issue.

The gay marriage thing almost swayed me away, but I believe we need to get the economy on track as quick as possible or there will be no country to get married in anyway. FG can always be lobbied on the gay marriage thing after, and they will almost certainly not be serving a full term anyway, so even if they dont budge on it, someone else will.

Brenireland · 23-02-2011 07:46PM

zuroph wrote: »

It galls me to vote FG considering;

A) the contempt Enda has shown for the public with his lack of "availability" for radio and TV interviews,

Lucinda Creighton junior spokesperson on equality's anti gay marriage stance, and outdated opinion that marriage is for having babies (so people who cant have kids shouldnt be allowed marry either?)

C) Their obvious in party bickering.

but.. and this is the clincher, I have to vote for them. The economy is the most urgent problem we have, and voting in a left party with far too many ties to the unions is not going to fix our expenditure. So thats Labour out.
Sin Féin, gtfo, bunch of murderous scum. I could not let them be in charge of our Gardaí after Jerry mcCabe, and the political circus that came after.
Greens, not a chance.
independents, lol. Not going to be able to do anything up there, except maybe push for an occasional local issue.

The gay marriage thing almost swayed me away, but I believe we need to get the economy on track as quick as possible or there will be no country to get married in anyway. FG can always be lobbied on the gay marriage thing after, and they will almost certainly not be serving a full term anyway, so even if they dont budge on it, someone else will.

:rolleyes: here we go another misguided attack on Lucinda creighton.

UglyBolloxFace · 23-02-2011 07:48PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Richard Bruton should be standing in his place.. simple as.

I still wouldn't vote for them mind.. they're a pro-Catholic Ireland, anti-civil rights party.

Kenny is obnoxiously arrogant in any case.. fully sure that nothing he says can be challenged.

fluorescence wrote: »

This. Quite simply. How he isn't head of FG I'll never know. He'd be a good Taoiseach methinks.

Kenny will do for now. If Labour could be majority in a coalition with Fine Gael we might do alright, but I don't think they'll get the numbers somehow.

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Yeah Richard Burton seems a better statesman

What's with all this love for Bruton?

This is a genuine question. Everyone seems to harp on about him, but never give any reason why they think he would be better.

So, go on, give me your reasons.

123balltv · 23-02-2011 07:49PM

he is slim

he is kindof good looking

he is an approvement from the last hippo biffo fella

UglyBolloxFace · 23-02-2011 07:50PM

sanbrafyffe wrote: »

richard bruton would be a disaster.god all ye fianna fail turn coats will you please leave enda kenny alone.just cuase yere own party failed and cost ye your jobs dont be putting pressure on enda.hes being in polotics since hes 24 and is well respected by other party members especially seen when bruton challenged him.he is well liked in europe and getting more liked.

he is honest and i met him myself and he is a gentleman with no corruption tendencies like the past fianna failers

he will work hard to get this country back to power and will ave the right people to help him and hopefully he will be remembered for it

as he stated last nite that the anniversary of the 1916 proclomation is in 5 years time and by then he wants the imf to be gone out of this country by then

that is the best line ive heard from any plotician yet as he is patriotic to men and women who fought hard for this state

they didnt fight hard for these shower to come into our country but they will continue while we have a shower like the fianna failers ruling it

vote fg
vote for ireland

You do realise that Fine Gael were in favour of the bail-out/IMF arse-rape of Ireland, don't you?

zuroph · 23-02-2011 07:51PM

Brenireland wrote: »

:rolleyes: here we go another misguided attack on Lucinda creighton.

its no attack, its based on what i've read from her. it is a FG wide policy according to this evenings last word. She's not in my constituency, so I've no urgent need to worry about her, but I would be in favour of FG changing their policy on this, and would support a lobby on this when they are in power.

Brenireland · 23-02-2011 07:51PM

UglyBolloxFace Bruton is the man for the job.

My name is URL · 23-02-2011 07:52PM

Brenireland wrote: »

:rolleyes: here we go another misguided attack on Lucinda creighton.

How is it misguided? Does FG or indeed Creighton support same sex marriages?

UglyBolloxFace wrote: »

What's with all this love for Bruton?

This is a genuine question. Everyone seems to harp on about him, but never give any reason why they think he would be better.

So, go on, give me your reasons.

I can't speak for anyone else, or even as a FG supporter.. but I'd simply prefer to see him as leader of the country than I would Kenny. He seems more honest, willing to engage and refined than Enda does. Overall, a more suitable leader in my view.

Kenny simply ignores what he doesn't want to or know how to answer.

UglyBolloxFace · 23-02-2011 07:53PM

Brenireland wrote: »

UglyBolloxFace Bruton is the man for the job.

Ah now come on, there's no need to be calling Bruton that:pac:

But yeah, anyway, you still haven't given me reasons why he is the man for the job.

Brenireland · 23-02-2011 07:54PM

zuroph wrote: »

its no attack, its based on what i've read. it is a FG wide policy according to this evenings last word. She's not in my constituency, so I've no urgent need to worry about her, but I would be in favour of FG changing their policy on this, and would support a lobby on this when they are in power.

Look I'm sure the people will have their say on the matter in a referendum and when they do it'll be put to bed,Thankfully with referendums and elections the majority wins.

zuroph · 23-02-2011 07:55PM

Brenireland wrote: »

Look I'm sure the people will have their say on the matter in a referendum and when they do it'll be put to bed,Thankfully with referendums and elections the majority wins.

so how was I misguided?

The_Thing · 23-02-2011 07:56PM

He's already shown us where his loyalties lie - with Merkel.

Middle-class FG will defer naturally to wealthy elite

george tobin · 23-02-2011 07:57PM

enda kenny is a smug fecker who will bow to the eurocrats,:mad:

Monty Burnz · 23-02-2011 07:59PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Richard Bruton should be standing in his place.. simple as.

I still wouldn't vote for them mind.. they're a pro-Catholic Ireland, anti-civil rights party.

Kenny is obnoxiously arrogant in any case.. fully sure that nothing he says can be challenged.

What a load of sh!te. This 'Catholic' thing is the latest propaganda message emanating from FFailure HQ. FG have been social progressives since the 80s at least. Their are members of the European People's Party in the EU, a socially progressive group. They introduced divorce in the face of fierce opposition from the church and FFailure.

Total cock and bull, tbh.

Monty Burnz · 23-02-2011 08:02PM

My name is URL wrote: »

I can't speak for anyone else, or even as a FG supporter.. but I'd simply prefer to see him as leader of the country than I would Kenny. He seems more honest, willing to engage and refined than Enda does. Overall, a more suitable leader in my view.

If FG had the testicles to boot out Kenny a few months back, they'd be looking at a definite one-party government, overall majority. Epic fail.

Kenny is good organiser but clearly lacks the charisma of a Bertie Ahern or Charles Haughey.

mossyc123 · 23-02-2011 08:06PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Richard Bruton should be standing in his place.. simple as.

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Yeah Richard Burton seems a better statesman

He messed up the leadership heave against Kenny last Summer.

Can distinctively remember him giggling like a little schoolgirl on Vincent Browne around this time when VB asked him whether or not he was going to challenge Enda instead of having the balls to admit he would.

Don't think he has anything more to offer the Kenny tbh

mossyc123 · 23-02-2011 08:08PM

My name is URL wrote: »

they're a pro-Catholic Ireland

Wrong. wrong, wrong.

Clue: Divorce Referendum 1995

sanbrafyffe · 23-02-2011 08:12PM

ya because the ffparty got us into it,thats why and they had to approve it along with labour and the greens etc,QUOTE=UglyBolloxFace;70827412]You do realise that Fine Gael were in favour of the bail-out/IMF arse-rape of Ireland, don't you?[/QUOTE]

sanbrafyffe · 23-02-2011 08:14PM

ya your right he is not as corrupt as them.your spot on

Monty Burnz wrote: »

If FG had the testicles to boot out Kenny a few months back, they'd be looking at a definite one-party government, overall majority. Epic fail.

Kenny is good organiser but clearly lacks the charisma of a Bertie Ahern or Charles Haughey.

Brenireland · 23-02-2011 08:17PM

zuroph wrote: »

so how was I misguided?

sorry maybe it was the wrong word to use, but don't you maybe reckon she had a point in what she was saying?.

Also as FG have been saying is their 5 point plan with regards Jobs/The Budget/Public Sector/Health/And new political system,are these issues not the more important issues and what our country Needs.

PeterIanStaker · 23-02-2011 08:20PM

He's not the man to take anyone anywhere.

The country is f***ed thanks to FF, and any incoming govt that attempts to get things back on track may as well be performing CPR on a corpse that has been double-tapped in the head. In other words, anything they do is a futile gesture.

The country will default, and no govt can prevent that.

Why is Enda the man to take us forward?

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