Why is Enda the man to take us forward?

Copper23 · 23-02-2011 04:09PM #1

So yeah, another election thread...

All reports are pointing at Enda Kenny being the main man around here from next week. So I'm asking. If you are voting for him or Fine Gael. What is it that makes you think he's the man?

To be honest I'm undecided. I'm not saying he is good or bad here, I'm asking those who support him to swing me one way or the other and explain what I might be missing. I'm not totally convinced by him. Watching the live debates the only thing he seemed to have a few quotes he reels off "14 year..." "5-point plan", etc... he doesn't give much specifics or detail making me think he doesn't really know what he's doing.

Maybe there is more to it than I've seen. I don't follow 24/7 coverage of the election. But what are the opinions here? If he is going to be the man... WHY? What about him or his plans makes you think he's the right guy or is a vote for FG strictly just a stance against FF?

Alessandra · 23-02-2011 04:14PM

Do you see anyone better stepping forward?

sagat2 · 23-02-2011 04:15PM

Enda will not be installed as a dictator with complete power, you are voting for a whole party not just the one man.

Brenireland · 23-02-2011 04:16PM

Copper23 wrote: »

So yeah, another election thread...

All reports are pointing at Enda Kenny being the main man around here from next week. So I'm asking. If you are voting for him or Fine Gael. What is it that makes you think he's the man?

To be honest I'm undecided. I'm not saying he is good or bad here, I'm asking those who support him to swing me one way or the other and explain what I might be missing. I'm not totally convinced by him. Watching the live debates the only thing he seemed to have a few quotes he reels off "14 year..." "5-point plan", etc... he doesn't give much specifics or detail making me think he doesn't really know what he's doing.

Maybe there is more to it than I've seen. I don't follow 24/7 coverage of the election. But what are the opinions here? If he is going to be the man... WHY? What about him or his plans makes you think he's the right guy or is a vote for FG strictly just a stance against FF?

he's not,he's ****e.

My name is URL · 23-02-2011 04:19PM

Alessandra wrote: »

Do you see anyone better stepping forward?

Richard Bruton should be standing in his place.. simple as.

I still wouldn't vote for them mind.. they're a pro-Catholic Ireland, anti-civil rights party.

Kenny is obnoxiously arrogant in any case.. fully sure that nothing he says can be challenged.

keano_afc · 23-02-2011 04:19PM

He is the man to take us forward because he is in charge of the party that are going to be in the majority after Friday. So yeah, by default. The 2 greatest words in the English language.

Cosimo Salvatore · 23-02-2011 04:20PM

You Irish, Very Good at Software.

Alessandra · 23-02-2011 04:22PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Richard Bruton should be standing in his place.. simple as.

A fair point.

alexa5x5 · 23-02-2011 04:22PM

Copper23 wrote: »

So yeah, another election thread...

All reports are pointing at Enda Kenny being the main man around here from next week. So I'm asking. If you are voting for him or Fine Gael. What is it that makes you think he's the man?

To be honest I'm undecided. I'm not saying he is good or bad here, I'm asking those who support him to swing me one way or the other and explain what I might be missing. I'm not totally convinced by him. Watching the live debates the only thing he seemed to have a few quotes he reels off "14 year..." "5-point plan", etc... he doesn't give much specifics or detail making me think he doesn't really know what he's doing.

Maybe there is more to it than I've seen. I don't follow 24/7 coverage of the election. But what are the opinions here? If he is going to be the man... WHY? What about him or his plans makes you think he's the right guy or is a vote for FG strictly just a stance against FF?

I'd like to hear other people’s opinion on this too. I knew who I was voting for all along, but after watching the last few debates I’m now unsure of my choice. I don’t believe that any of them are suitable to lead Ireland so I’m trying to pick the best of the bad bunch at the moment.

hondasam · 23-02-2011 04:23PM

Copper23 wrote: »

So yeah, another election thread...

All reports are pointing at Enda Kenny being the main man around here from next week. So I'm asking. If you are voting for him or Fine Gael. What is it that makes you think he's the man?

To be honest I'm undecided. I'm not saying he is good or bad here, I'm asking those who support him to swing me one way or the other and explain what I might be missing. I'm not totally convinced by him. Watching the live debates the only thing he seemed to have a few quotes he reels off "14 year..." "5-point plan", etc... he doesn't give much specifics or detail making me think he doesn't really know what he's doing.

Maybe there is more to it than I've seen. I don't follow 24/7 coverage of the election. But what are the opinions here? If he is going to be the man... WHY? What about him or his plans makes you think he's the right guy or is a vote for FG strictly just a stance against FF?

neither did the last leader !

Fluorescence · 23-02-2011 04:25PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Richard Bruton should be standing in his place.. simple as.

This. Quite simply. How he isn't head of FG I'll never know. He'd be a good Taoiseach methinks.

Kenny will do for now. If Labour could be majority in a coalition with Fine Gael we might do alright, but I don't think they'll get the numbers somehow.

Gunsfortoys · 23-02-2011 04:26PM

www. finegael . ie.

5...point...plan...

Earthhorse · 23-02-2011 04:26PM

I hear he sleeps in a tent which he believes gives him sexual powers and that's good enough for me.

Gummy Panda · 23-02-2011 04:27PM

Yeah Richard Burton seems a better statesman

hondasam · 23-02-2011 04:29PM

I think FG will try to oust Enda again after the election.

Badgermonkey · 23-02-2011 04:32PM

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Yeah Richard Burton seems a better statesman

They haven't gone away you know.

I'm voting FG in the hope that 10 months or so in, Enda is ousted.

The_Minister · 23-02-2011 04:36PM

Martin is easily the better leader, but he is in Fianna Fail, so...ya know...

Gilmore v Kenny, Kenny wins though.

Basically, Kenny is the best choice.

Even if he is somewhat plankish at times, and he had a big, smug grin on him at the debate.

Krusader · 23-02-2011 04:37PM

'Cause People are blinded by the Waffle and Spin and will vote in another right wing party which will screw us over again, a real leader will hold a referendum on the bailout, therefore having a real mandate for it

sensibleken · 23-02-2011 04:37PM

He's not. Him any everyone standing behind him are the worst options. Their 5 point plan is a load of waffle.

80,000 jobs from water and telecoms? get real

Sell off bord gais and esb when they are profitable. Thats great, get rid of state agencies that are actually making money and lets have another eircom debacle

bring back stag hunting?

their thatcherite policies are going to make this place even more difficult for the less well off of us to live in

Kaizer Sosa · 23-02-2011 04:47PM

hondasam wrote: »

I think FG will try to oust Enda again after the election.

Why?? He'll be in at that stage and then they won't care what people think of the FG leader. Fine Gael had their chance to remove an unpopular leader and showed that they are as guilty as any party of having their members look out for their own interests before those of the electorate by sticking with the status quo.:(

Sad indictment of Ireland that we can't vote someone that we want and have to resort to voting for the least-worst candidate!

ejmaztec · 23-02-2011 04:51PM

We don't want to go forward, we want to turn the fucking corner.

FG shouldn't assume that we all love them when they get voted in, and should remember that they are only the best of a bad bunch of ****.

DanGerMus · 23-02-2011 04:52PM

Fine Gael, in terms of policies are probably the best option, though far from perfect they're the only ones talking properly about cuts in spending in the public service.
That said if they dropped enda in the morning and threw Leo in the driver seat itd be a landslide.

The_Minister · 23-02-2011 04:53PM

sensibleken wrote: »

Sell off bord gais and esb when they are profitable. Thats great, get rid of state agencies that are actually making money and lets have another eircom debacle

A few points:

1. They are only selling off the power generation part of ESB - Eirgrid will be state owned.

2. It's easy to make a profit when you are effectively a State monopoly (or close enough). ESB workers are the highest paid in the world in their field, not counting the subsidies they get.

3. We have some of the highest energy prices in Europe, mostly because we are an island, but a large amount of that is the inefficient and protected way in which the ESB operates.

grrrrrrrrrr · 23-02-2011 04:55PM

Cause everyone else in Fine Gael is afraid of his wife!

grrrrrrrrrr · 23-02-2011 05:00PM

This came up as a advertisement for me on top of the page, "Sick of Enda Kenny, this man should be in charge", or something. I'm nearly getting more sick of Pearse than Enda. Well, sort of...

I'll never get this embedding thing right

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyYVfuedy0g

Kaizer Sosa · 23-02-2011 05:03PM

DanGerMus wrote: »

Fine Gael, in terms of policies are probably the best option, though far from perfect they're the only ones talking properly about cuts in spending in the public service.
That said if they dropped enda in the morning and threw Leo in the driver seat itd be a landslide.

I can't understand how anyone can admire that ball of slime, yet many seem to. Think he is smugness personified. Think Bruton would be a far more credible leader.

common sense brigade · 23-02-2011 05:05PM

He has a lovely head of hair, and a smashing attitude

ejmaztec · 23-02-2011 05:08PM

Kaizer Sosa wrote: »

I can't understand how anyone can admire that ball of slime, yet many seem to. Think he is smugness personified. Think Bruton would be a far more credible leader.

Leo Verruca.

Brenireland · 23-02-2011 05:12PM

But I will vote FG,I love their policies so I will give No.1 & preferences.

jonnysimples · 23-02-2011 05:15PM

sagat2 wrote: »

Enda will not be installed as a dictator with complete power, you are voting for a whole party not just the one man.

+1

I'm voting Fine Gael, not because I want Enda as leader but because I believe they are the strongest party to take us through the next 5 years. IMO, this country can expect a minimum of three more years of strife and I want a party that will have the balls to make the tough and unpopular decisions and I believe FG will do that.

chillywilly · 23-02-2011 05:19PM

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

www. finegael . ie.

5...point...plan...

14 years

Why is Enda the man to take us forward?

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