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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    dnme wrote: »
    Nah it seems to be a thing with HD STB's IMO, I am always on latest FW. Zapping channels should be instant like it was in analog systems. INSTANT! Even if you look at the specs of these new stb's, they quote 2-3 seconds channel changing times. VERY ANNOYING and a usability disaster.

    Sorry for all the shouting, its just so annoying to me, one of my pet hates not to mention the sluggish so called now and next EPG that does not work!

    Well I have lots and lots of boxes and have never seen the 2/3 seconds problem. Infact I have only ever seen it on a Humax HDCI 2000T and that is because it was having problems with H264 streams.

    Remember the latest version of firmware isnt always the best one. Especially if they are unofficial images. Are you using the ILT firmware ? Did you try the offcial firmware ?

    That is a ridiculous amount of time for channel change.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    stanley1 wrote: »
    sundtek is the only dtt stick supported in vix 1.3, they hope to add more in 1.4.

    You obviously post over at the VU UK forum stanley ?

    If they are selling these and saying they work with the official image, then the guys writing the Enigma patches over at the forum will have these drivers..... Seems madness that people are paying €80 for a stick when a €25 will work. Maybe you might ask the Vix team.

    The driver name is: af9015

    The Black Hole team have it working on 1.3.9 back in November. That driver works with this lot of USB dvb-t devices.

    Afatech AF9015 DVB-T USB2.0 stick
    AVerMedia A309
    AVerMedia AVerTV DVB-T Volar XAverMedia AVerTV Volar Black HD/HD+ (A850)/(A850+) [OK]
    AverMedia AVerTV Volar GPS 805 (A805) [OK]
    Conceptronic USB2.0 DVB-T CTVDIGRCU V3.0
    DigitalNow TinyTwin DVB-T Receiver
    Fujitsu-Siemens Slim Mobile USB DVB-T
    Genius TVGo DVB-T03
    KWorld Digial MC-810
    KWorld PlusTV Dual DVB-T PCI (DVB-T PC160-2T)
    KWorld PlusTV Dual DVB-T Stick (DVB-T 399U)
    KWorld PlusTV DVB-T PCI Pro Card (DVB-T PC160-T)
    KWorld USB DVB-T Stick Mobile (UB383-T)
    KWorld USB DVB-T TV Stick II (VS-DVB-T 395U)
    Leadtek WinFast DTV2000DS
    Leadtek WinFast DTV Dongle Gold
    MSI DIGIVOX Duo
    MSI Digi VOX mini III
    Pinnacle PCTV 71e
    Sveon STV20 Tuner USB DVB-T HDTV
    Telestar Starstick 2
    TerraTec Cinergy T Stick RC
    TerraTec Cinergy T USB XE
    TrekStor DVB-T USB Stick
    TwinHan AzureWave AD-TU700(704J)
    Xtensions XD-380


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,307 ✭✭✭irishchris


    the drivers for the avermedia etc are closed source by dreamlite and they refuse to hand them over to anyone. all usb tuners require communication with i2c module and hence the probs with running on a vu+. the sundtek one does not and works without any change or config in the linux vu+ enviro.
    in saying that dream elite and siftteam had a way of porting them to their images but in a restricted way. vix team are well aware of the need to get these working and all i can say is wait a few weeks guys as there is a lot of work being done and it will be worth the wait. also would advise against paying out on a sundtek one just yet. {even though i did a few months back :) }


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭jgc115


    NTC wrote: »
    Yep, it can read a Sky Card.


    Hi NTC,

    Just got my Vu+ and after setting it up I tried my Sky FTV card, but it doesn't seem to work?? I tried both card reader slots and inserting the card with chip up/down but to no avail - Am I missing something? - :confused:

    Kind regards,

    jgc115


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭givecredit


    jgc115 wrote: »
    Hi NTC,

    Just got my Vu+ and after setting it up I tried my Sky FTV card, but it doesn't seem to work?? I tried both card reader slots and inserting the card with chip up/down but to no avail - Am I missing something? - :confused:

    Kind regards,

    jgc115

    Below taken from http://www.vuplus-support.co.uk/forum.php

    Step by step guide, presuming you have an FTP program on your PC and know how to use it, and that you simply want to use your sly card in your VUduo and not do anything dodgy.

    1) Work out your box key


    Code:
    On the back of your sly box is a 17 digit number

    Ignore the first 6 and the last 1 number, that gives you a 10 digit number.

    For example, if your 17 digit code is

    1E200506858456748

    You would ignore the first 6 (1E2005) and the last one (8)
    which would leave you with the 10 digit number 0685845674

    google for a hex convertor (or use your calc if it has one),place the 10 digit number in and convert it to Hex.

    The above example would give 28E12CAA which is your box key entered as (note the spaces)

    BOXKEY: /dev/sci0 28 E1 2C AA

    If your box key turns out at only 7 characters add a 0 (zero) to the beginning of the number to make it 8 characters long.2) Install CCCam2.1.4 (something like Menu, Plugins, Download plugins, cams)

    3) On your PC create a text file called CCcam and enter the following two lines


    Code:
    BOXKEY: /dev/sci0 12 34 AB CD
    SMARTCARD CLOCK FREQUENCY: /dev/sci0 3570000/dev/sci0 is presuming you are using the top slot for your Sly card.

    Type it exactly as in the above, case sensitive, replacing "12 34 AB CD" with your box key.

    save the file.

    4) You will now have a file called CCcam.txt which needs to be changed to CCcam.cfg

    Start Windows Explorer (Start, All Programs, Accessories, Windows Explorer) then click on "Documents"

    Click on the "Organise" tab followed by "Folder and Search Options"

    Click on the "View" tab and untick the box to the left of "Hide extensions for known file types"

    Click "OK"

    Right click on your newly created CCcam.txt file, select "rename", highlight the txt and change it to cfg

    You will get a warning message saying something along the lines of "If you change file types, file might become unusable, are you sure..." click "Yes"

    5) FTP your newly created CCcam.cfg file to the /etc directory on your VUduo box.

    6) Shut down your VUduo box, insert your Sly card into the top slot (I made the mistake of thinking I had the top slot but as I was looking at the box from above, I actually had the lower slot, so double check)

    7) Power up your VUduo box.

    8) Menu, Setup, Softcam/ci

    Softcam Setup

    If there's nothing after "Active cam"

    Select Cam: CCcam2.1.4

    Press green button to start it.

    Press blue button to autostart it

    You are done. It should now automatically start every time you reboot and you should now have access to your channels.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭NTC


    I did the steps that "GiveCredit" has posted.

    Make sure your channels are up to date. I have issues when sky change some of the details in the channels, i need to rescan (or load a new channel list).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Gipo3


    Is the card (sky ftv) kept active in Vu+ or does it have to go back in sky box after few weeks?

    Also, does this mean Avermedia usb is working for this guy, and also Win Tv Nova, maybe to be included in vix1.4???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,307 ✭✭✭irishchris


    Gipo3 wrote: »

    Also, does this mean Avermedia usb is working for this guy, and also Win Tv Nova, maybe to be included in vix1.4???

    he is also a member of the vix team and is helping with dvb-t. it obviously cannot be discussed until 1.4 is released which should be in the coming weeks but my advice is dont sell your old dvb-t usb tuners yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,307 ✭✭✭irishchris


    kierank01 wrote: »
    I'm all but ready to buy this box, can someone tell me if/how well the rte player works on this box?

    I use archlinux on my laptop, and cannot get it to run full screen.

    rte player/bbciplayer/itv player etc do not work on this reciever or any i know of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kierank01


    irishchris wrote: »
    rte player/bbciplayer/itv player etc do not work on this reciever or any i know of.

    :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭jgc115


    givecredit wrote: »
    Below taken from http://www.vuplus-support.co.uk/forum.php

    Step by step guide, presuming you have an FTP program on your PC and know how to use it, and that you simply want to use your sly card in your VUduo and not do anything dodgy.



    Great, thanks a million guys - That's all working now! :)

    This is definitely a great box, eventhough it requires a little bit of Linux skills. Still a lot to learn, so hopefully will have more skills before Vix 1.4 comes out with support for a reasonably priced DTT stick.

    BTW - No dodgy stuff. Was just trying to get my paid up sly card working and now hopefully I wont have to put it back in my sly box any more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭dnme


    Guys

    Can anyone tell me, what makes this box worth 400 quid?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭RogerThis


    dnme wrote: »
    Guys

    Can anyone tell me, what makes this box worth 400 quid?

    It's half the price of the DM8000, and has pretty much the same functionality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭dnme


    RogerThis wrote: »
    It's half the price of the DM8000, and has pretty much the same functionality.

    Yea but go through the components in it. What is the big deal? Is it cos it's new / novelty? All it is is a chip, Linux and a couple of tuners.

    What part of it warrants 400 quid?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭glic83


    well i would rather pay 400 quid for a hd box that has dual tunner like the duo instead of the bones of 900 quid for a dm8000


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭dnme


    glic83 wrote: »
    well i would rather pay 400 quid for a hd box that has dual tunner like the duo instead of the bones of 900 quid for a dm8000

    Well why is the dm8000 900 quid?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭glic83


    dnme wrote: »
    Well why is the dm8000 900 quid?


    only dream multimedia can answer that im afraid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kierank01


    dnme wrote: »
    Yea but go through the components in it. What is the big deal? Is it cos it's new / novelty? All it is is a chip, Linux and a couple of tuners.

    What part of it warrants 400 quid?


    Well a sky box is 'a chip, an operating system, and a couple of tuners'.

    The sky box is subsidised, and is locked down.
    This means it can be provided at a lower price than a vu+ or a DM8000, and it dosen't have to be as technically complex as those boxes.

    I would challenge you to go and build a htpc, with dvd player, sata hard drive, twin sat tuners, and twin dtt tuners, CAM slots, and many more things that I am forgetting including software fully functional for 900 euros.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭dnme


    kierank01 wrote: »
    Well a sky box is 'a chip, an operating system, and a couple of tuners'.

    The sky box is subsidised, and is locked down.
    This means it can be provided at a lower price than a vu+ or a DM8000, and it dosen't have to be as technically complex as those boxes.

    I would challenge you to go and build a htpc, with dvd player, sata hard drive, twin sat tuners, and twin dtt tuners, CAM slots, and many more things that I am forgetting including software fully functional for 900 euros.

    But sure my current box (Edision Argus VIP2) is a chip, and os and 2 tuners (inter swappable). It has Ethernet, HDMI, Scart, Pyr etc. I currently have it configured with DVB-S and DVB-T tuners. It has UALS, Diseqc, etc. It has USB2.0 etc, You name it. It has cam slots, card slots, reads sky ftv card etc.

    It costs 200 quid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭RogerThis


    The difference between the Argus and the vuplus is emigma2 and the community behind it. Not sure what the spec is like for the Argus but I'd say the processor isn't compatable with enigma2 or there isn't the coders willing to release so many images for the Argus.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭dnme


    RogerThis wrote: »
    The difference between the Argus and the vuplus is emigma2 and the community behind it. Not sure what the spec is like for the Argus but I'd say the processor isn't compatable with enigma2 or there isn't the coders willing to release so many images for the Argus.

    But is enigma not just a piece of software? and isnt it free? if so, why does the hardware cost 400 quid?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kierank01


    dnme wrote: »
    But is enigma not just a piece of software? and isnt it free? if so, why does the hardware cost 400 quid?

    The cost of enigma is certianly not free, and the cost of hardware to be compatible is clearly significant.

    have you got the prive of that htpc yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭dnme


    kierank01 wrote: »
    The cost of enigma is certianly not free, and the cost of hardware to be compatible is clearly significant.

    have you got the prive of that htpc yet?

    why are you comparing a dedicated set top box to a multimedia pc? I think these boxes are overpriced.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    dnme wrote: »
    But sure my current box (Edision Argus VIP2) is a chip, and os and 2 tuners (inter swappable). It has Ethernet, HDMI, Scart, Pyr etc. I currently have it configured with DVB-S and DVB-T tuners. It has UALS, Diseqc, etc. It has USB2.0 etc, You name it. It has cam slots, card slots, reads sky ftv card etc.

    It costs 200 quid

    Read this. http://www.promwad.com/technologies/set-top-box.html

    It helps understand the various chipsets used in Boxes and why and why each will have their limitations. The Argus uses the Ali M3602 chipset.

    The VU+Duo uses a Broadcom 7335 400meg mips processor. It also has 348megs of RAM (more Ram than a DM8000).

    Second thing to remember. It doesnt matter how good the hardware is. If it isnt supported then its useless. I could tell you about other Linux boxes, say the Optibox Alligator/Next 2000/DigiLine7000, all great boxes, combo's too, with wifi optional (very cheap as well). Basic cost €120 + 25 for the wifi kit +20 for a dvb-t module. Cheap isnt it. Can run Enigma as well, if you had the support teams. Guess what, no support teams.

    You know they tried Enigma2 on the VIP2.......

    There is also a brand new bit of kit out which has better hardware spec than both the Vu+Duo and the DM8000. Is it as good ? Probably not at this stage. Why ? The support is based in Germany.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭dnme


    OK after reading reviews on the web and this entire thread, I've bitten the bullet. Ordered just now from ielektroniks.com. There still seems to be discussion on what USB DVB-T devices work so I'll hold off as my TV has analog and DVB-T tuners built in - still I'd like to be able to record -T.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭givecredit


    dnme wrote: »
    OK after reading reviews on the web and this entire thread, I've bitten the bullet. Ordered just now from ielektroniks.com. There still seems to be discussion on what USB DVB-T devices work so I'll hold off as my TV has analog and DVB-T tuners built in - still I'd like to be able to record -T.

    Well done on your new purchase. When setting it up if you have any problems, do not forget to come back here for some helpful advice.

    You will not regret your purchase. At €387 incl delivery you got it at a good price too. Expect the DVB-T to be sorted soon. Install VIX firmware and your good to go...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Gipo3


    Irishchris, how is the vu+ solo, thinking about it for bedroom?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,307 ✭✭✭irishchris


    Gipo3 wrote: »
    Irishchris, how is the vu+ solo, thinking about it for bedroom?

    hi mate
    the solo is a great bit of kit. i thought i would be hampered by only having one lnb input on it from a fixed dish but there is a great plugin called partnerbox which works on vix image. it connects to the duo through the ethernet and you can watch any channel from the duo from my motorised dish on my solo. all in all is just as good a piece of hardware as the duo and works identical. also have old hdd attached with a usb cable at back and records just perfect also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭carbsy


    Think I'm finally going to make the bold move and relegate my Azbox Ultra to the bedroom and slot in a vu+ duo in the living room. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭azzeretti


    kierank01 wrote: »

    I would challenge you to go and build a htpc, with dvd player, sata hard drive, twin sat tuners, and twin dtt tuners, CAM slots, and many more things that I am forgetting including software fully functional for 900 euros.

    Are you serious? You could build a HTPC capable of serving a housing estate for 900 euro!

    I have built a good few of them over the years. The software is already there if you stay opensource. Any modern distro will allow you build one. SATA drives and DVD drives cost next to nothing nowadays. Gigabit NIC and reasonable processor (provided you are not transcoding which I assume you're not if you are comparing like for like) is all you need. CAMs? I have had many USB card readers configured to run with the various SoftCAMs around - these are even cheaper than hard drive.

    IMO, you could build a really decent HTPC for well under 400, with multi tuners and multi card readers.


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