Anyone else like me? Shampoo and Toilet Paper

rorymcgrory · 08-12-2010 01:18AM

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

Why do people find not using toilet paper disgusting? In many countries around the world people choose to clean their arses with soap and water which to my mind would leave you much cleaner. With toilet paper all your doing is smearing crap off your backside, it doesn't clean you it just gets rid of the large chunks of crap stuck to your stovepipe.
If you want to use paper just wipe with dry paper first and then repeat with some wet paper to make sure your clean.

Has mammy not showed you how to wipe your bum properly?

Sticky_Fingers · 08-12-2010 01:19AM

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Remind me never to shake hands with you, erm....Sticky.

Because I re-wipe with wet toilet paper

. Thats it, no rim jobs for you

Mr Benevolent · 08-12-2010 01:24AM

Ahem.

Baby wipes.

That is all.

starbelgrade · 08-12-2010 01:25AM

There's a certain irony to this story.

The OP thinks that by not wiping his arse with toilet paper, that he's gonna save the environment, yet washes his hole with soap & water.

Now either I'm missing something, or that doesn't quite balance out the way he thinks it does!

kjl wrote: »

one person washes down almost 10 gallons of shampoo a year, which is water that can not be recycled. So maybe if we all did this it would help save the environment.

kjl wrote: »

I wash my bum with soap and water and my hands.

kjl · 08-12-2010 01:28AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

There's a certain irony to this story.

The OP thinks that by not wiping his arse with toilet paper, that he's gonna save the environment, yet washes his hole with soap & water.

Now either I'm missing something, or that doesn't quite balance out the way he thinks it does!

Well, its not the detergent in shampoo that makes it bad for the environment, its the foaming agents they put in it. Shampoo is full of chemicals, also the paper I am not using is less trees being cut down, so to answer you question NO there is not irony to this story.

PS look up the definition of irony

FreudianSlippers · 08-12-2010 01:30AM

kjl wrote: »

Well, its not the detergent in shampoo that makes it bad for the environment, its the foaming agents they put in it. Shampoo is full of chemicals, also the paper I am not using is less trees being cut down, so to answer you question NO there is not irony to this story.

PS look up the definition of irony

I think you'll find that it is in fact you who may need to look up irony.

FreudianSlippers · 08-12-2010 01:31AM

kjl wrote: »

yes, we have internet in the caravans now. ffs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXwTxySVuyQ

PS: I fúcking hate that song :mad:

kjl · 08-12-2010 01:31AM

OisinT wrote: »

I think you'll find that it is in fact you who may need to look up irony.

go on them Oisin, explain the irony for me. Perhaps if you didn't learn the definition from Alanis Morissette you would understand it better :P

mgmt · 08-12-2010 01:36AM

kjl wrote: »

So I suppose my question is, am I crazy? Is there anyone else out there like me. I read somewhere that 27000 trees are cut down everyday to make toilet paper for the world. And that one person washes down almost 10 gallons of shampoo a year, which is water that can not be recycled. So maybe if we all did this it would help save the environment.

Thoughts?

Trees are renewable. Why do hippies freak out about them being cut down??? They are a plant, like a potato. We will never run out of them. 99.99% of trees grown for paper production, are grown on farmland. When trees are cut down, more are grown in their place. BTW, recycling paper is a waste of time (and money). The chemicals used in the recycling process make it worse for the environment. Better off in incineration.

kjl wrote: »

water that can not be recycled

Don't know where you get this idea from. Wastewater Treatment Plants clean out the phosphorus and other substances in shampoo from wastewater everyday. In London, they drink the water that comes out the the Watewater Treatment Plants. Perfectly fine.

starbelgrade · 08-12-2010 01:37AM

kjl wrote: »

Well, its not the detergent in shampoo that makes it bad for the environment, its the foaming agents they put in it. Shampoo is full of chemicals, also the paper I am not using is less trees being cut down, so to answer you question NO there is not irony to this story.

PS look up the definition of irony

I know exactly what irony means. I also know that it has many uses & meaning depending on how & where it is used.

Irony, in a historical, dramatical or situational sense, is a factual truth which is highlighted by a persons ignorance of the fact or total belief of the opposite.

In this case, as you pointed out, there is no irony, but there's no need to be a smart arse about it.

starbelgrade · 08-12-2010 01:38AM

mgmt wrote: »

Trees are renewable. Why do hippies freak out about them being cut down??? They are a plant, like a potato. We will never run out of them. 99.99% of trees grown for paper production, are grown on farmland. When trees are cut down, more are grown in their place. BTW, recycling paper is a waste of time (and money). The chemicals used in the recycling process make it worse for the environment. Better off in incineration.

Don't know where you get this idea from. Wastewater Treatment Plants clean out the phosphorus and other substances in shampoo from wastewater everyday. In London, they drink the water that comes out the the Watewater Treatment Plants. Perfectly fine.

And therein, lies the irony.

kjl · 08-12-2010 01:39AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

I know exactly what irony means. I also know that it has many uses & meaning depending on how & where it is used.

Irony, in a historical, dramatical or situational sense, is a factual truth which is highlighted by a persons ignorance of the fact or total belief of the opposite.

In this case, as you pointed out, there is no irony, but there's no need to be a smart arse about it.

Don't you think?

FreudianSlippers · 08-12-2010 01:39AM

kjl wrote: »

go on them Oisin, explain the irony for me. Perhaps if you didn't learn the definition from Alanis Morissette you would understand it better :P

I am disappoint.

Google Socratic Irony and note the

starbelgrade · 08-12-2010 01:41AM

kjl wrote: »

Don't you think?

No. I don't.

Mr Marston · 08-12-2010 01:41AM

I find it strange that many people find the cleaning of the ass with soap and water strange. What do people think when they're on the continent and they see a bidet? Have people here assumed incorrectly and defacated/urinated in bidets or something? Personally, if I find there to be a lack of toilet paper, I get in the shower and go to town with shower gel and water. What does everyone else do? I had this conversation with a friend who was repulsed, said he uses a sock or something if he's stuck!

On a related topic, does everybody wash their ass in the shower? My friend (same as above), said he's never put his hand is crack. How does one get rid of potential dangle-berries!?

scientific1982 · 08-12-2010 01:41AM

kjl wrote: »

Ok since we are getting gross here,

I wash my bum with soap and water and my hands. I use a bidet to remove the larger parts, and then use my hands after. When I am done, I clean my hand completely with hot water and soap.

I can assure you I do not smell, I never get skid marks and my underwear is always clean. You can all call me dirty all you want, but I think its dirty not to wash you bum and have sh!t in you ass the whole day. In fact when I am forced to use paper it always starts itching after a few hours and I need sudocream because I normally have a rash.

Mate you might not smell but thats really, really unhygenic. Unless you're washing your hands with a very strong antibacterial after, your spreading fecal coliforms around the place.

Mr Benevolent · 08-12-2010 01:45AM

Now I know the meaning of the term 'crusty' wrt hippies. Otherwise the OP is the cheapest mofo ever to walk to earth. Though if he's a hippy that probably explains a lot.

FoxT · 08-12-2010 01:45AM

A good shite is like a 1-night stand.
Above all other things, you want a clean break.

But, life isn't like that a lot of the time. Toilet Paper solves a lot of difficult problems. I think we're better off with it, than without it.

starbelgrade · 08-12-2010 01:47AM

kjl wrote: »

go on them Oisin, explain the irony for me. Perhaps if you didn't learn the definition from Alanis Morissette you would understand it better :P

What you are stating - that by not using shampoo & toilet paper, somehow is saving the environment - is factually incorrect.

The irony consists in you stating the contrary of what is actually meant.

As Alanis Morissette would say, isn't that ironic?

kjl · 08-12-2010 01:49AM

mgmt wrote: »

Trees are renewable. Why do hippies freak out about them being cut down??? They are a plant, like a potato. We will never run out of them. 99.99% of trees grown for paper production, are grown on farmland. When trees are cut down, more are grown in their place. BTW, recycling paper is a waste of time (and money). The chemicals used in the recycling process make it worse for the environment. Better off in incineration.

Don't know where you get this idea from. Wastewater Treatment Plants clean out the phosphorus and other substances in shampoo from wastewater everyday. In London, they drink the water that comes out the the Watewater Treatment Plants. Perfectly fine.

I hear this argument all the time, about trees being replanted. The fact that you are clearly forgetting about it that it takes a very long time for trees to regrow, somewhere upwards of 20 years. While they may farm some trees, I'm afraid I will need to see a source that says 99.99%, which no offence seems like a made up statistic.

Also you refer to water treatment plants, yes they can purify the water, nobody said they couldn't anyone with a basic understanding of chemistry should know all they have to do is boil it off, but do you understand that that take energy. If less people used shampoo then less energy is spend in the water treatment. Multiply that globally and you DO have a significant amount of environmental damage.

But I'm sure your one of those people who don't believe in global warming because of the cold weather we are having now.

And, it's still not ironic.

lil_lisa · 08-12-2010 01:52AM

It doesn't equate. You're right.

Lets take an average sh!tty morning.

Option 1:

You do your business, you move over to the bidet/shower, spray some water and a bit of soap that eventually goes down the drain. You then grab a cotton towel (which is made using a lot of water and you will end up putting into the washing machine soon anyway, hence using more water) and wipe your bum!

Option 2:

You buy some recycled toilet paper (not that cheap rash making kind, you can go a little bit better and still look after the environment). You do your business, grab some toilet paper. Toilet paper, which comes from trees which are planted in the billions every year. And you wipe your bum.

Hmm, which option is better for the environment?

Personally, I don't think the environment is a reason to not wipe your behind!

lil_lisa · 08-12-2010 01:54AM

kjl wrote: »

The fact that you are clearly forgetting about it that it takes a very long time for trees to regrow, somewhere upwards of 20 years.

Its a good thing we've been planting them for over 20 years!

kjl · 08-12-2010 01:57AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

What you are stating - that by not using shampoo & toilet paper, somehow is saving the environment - is factually incorrect.

The irony consists in you stating the contrary of what is actually meant.

As Alanis Morissette would say, isn't that ironic?

Your initial statement was that because I use soap to wash myself that it counteracts the fact that I don't use shampoo, this is the statement I told you to look up the definition of irony. This is not ironic because the amount of soap used to wash myself is less of an impact than the shampoo and paper used by everyone else.

It would only be Ironic if I used the same toilet paper to clean my hair and the same amount of shampoo to clean my ass.

You feel because you have jumped onto someone else's argument that your initial statement was correct. Ich don't think so honey.

AND we still are actually waiting on proof that it is factually incorrect.

FreudianSlippers · 08-12-2010 01:58AM

I wish I could stay up all night and discuss your arse wiping habits, but alas I must retire for the evening.

lol @ this fúcking thread btw.

starbelgrade · 08-12-2010 02:01AM

kjl wrote: »

Also you refer to water treatment plants, yes they can purify the water, nobody said they couldn't anyone with a basic understanding of chemistry should know all they have to do is boil it off, but do you understand that that take energy. If less people used shampoo then less energy is spend in the water treatment. Multiply that globally and you DO have a significant amount of environmental damage..

So if everyone wiped their arses with soap & water, would that cut down on the need to treat waste water?

I have only a rudimentary understanding of chemistry, so maybe you know more than I do... does the soap actually clean the poo & make the water potable?

kjl · 08-12-2010 02:02AM

OK, even if I admit that I am wrong about the tree thing, which in fairness overwhelming evidence. The transport the toilet paper from the manufacture to the shops and then to your house would have an impact. The actual production of the stuff would impact the environment. So if everyone stopped using it, globally it would make a huge difference.

kjl · 08-12-2010 02:03AM

OisinT wrote: »

I wish I could stay up all night and discuss your arse wiping habits, but alas I must retire for the evening.

lol @ this fúcking thread btw.

Something new anyway

night and sleep tight.

kjl · 08-12-2010 02:04AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

So if everyone wiped their arses with soap & water, would that cut down on the need to treat waste water?

I have only a rudimentary understanding of chemistry, so maybe you know more than I do... does the soap actually clean the poo & make the water potable?

The sh!tty water would need to be treated regardless, does your rudimentary understanding understand that you don't want to be drinking sh!t water?

OutlawPete · 08-12-2010 02:08AM

You don't like shampoo?

You think wiping after a poo is a sham?

I think I see the problem.

When you when young, someone shoved a shampoo bottle up your bum.

whatdoicare · 08-12-2010 02:08AM

Eeeeeeew.........

I have a feeling a girl isn't in the picture...

Anyone else like me? Shampoo and Toilet Paper

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