Nocturnal Forum Feedback Thread

I'll have a look at the charter later on, change it so its less text and more clear what can be posted. Which is basically anything... Glad to see a thirst for more serious stuff too

FWIW, I really enjoyed our excursion to Dominion Ressurection. I'm not normally a black clad character (the irony that I'm doing improv tonight and my team's unoficcial uniform is black!), but I did enjoy doing something different while out.

Updated the charter, snipped some things, specifically added this:

The forum is first and foremost for insomniacs and those that work outside regular hours or simply just prefer to be up late at night.

Feel free to discuss topics relating to late night existance, lack of sleep, shift working, late night entertainment, or simply beat the night time lonliness chatting in the lair.

Those who like the spooky. Horror/ Dark Fantasy is a heavy theme here.
Those who enjoy the dark side of culture be it music, film etc. Feel free to start threads related to the culture of the night.

Those who enjoy counter /subcultures, gothic/alt/emo/nerd/roleplaying all have a big following here. Feel free to discuss issues relating to these sub cultures.

any tips or better way to post it, feel free

Galvasean wrote: »

FWIW, I really enjoyed our excursion to Dominion Ressurection. I'm not normally a black clad character (the irony that I'm doing improv tonight and my team's unoficcial uniform is black!), but I did enjoy doing something different while out.

I enjoyed it too, it was loads of fun. But as far as I can see, the "vanilla" among us DO make an effort to make the "alt" people (just using the terms already in use) comfortable on nights out, letting them for the most part dictate the venues etc... but no such allowances are made for the vanilla people. When a non-alt venue is suggested it's all, "I'm not going if it's going to be there", "no way, I was there once before and it was full of hipsters", "the music is shlt" etc.

Well I think metal music is shlt and I still went to Dominion and had a ball. I think the us vs them, vanilla vs alt atmosphere is making a lot of us vanilla types sick to the back teeth as Nerin said. If the vanilla people can be big and bold enough to forget wanting to go dancing to 80s cheesy pop and go to Dominion for a night, can the Alt types not make a similar compromise for the sake of the vanilla types and tolerate a bit of mainstream chat, a mainstream bar, a pub that isn't full of similar alt-types and raging doom metal music, for the sake of the forum? I'd never ever force or even suggest an 80s cheesy night out for this forum as I know most of you would hate it -- but just a normal bar? With seats and ambient music and drinks? Is that SUCH an effort, the odd time? Without complaining that it's not alt enough?

As far as I can see, people aren't willing to do that -- or at least, they're not willing to do it without complaining about it. And that just serves to make the vanilla people feel (a) guilty for making the suggestion and (b) unwelcome. As if the Alt members think of this as "their" forum and the vanilla types are merely intruders spoiling their fun. That's how I feel. I think others feel that way too.

I know there is absolutely nobody in this forum who consciously thinks the above about the vanilla people, but that is the overriding feeling for me coming in here now. Having suggested several places to go on nights out (when nobody else would) and hearing nothing afterwards but "that was crap because XYZ", I'm just so done trying to fit in here.

I couldn't give a monkey's about what kind of music plays in what bar we go to as long as I get to hang out with the PEOPLE I meet here -- like-mindedness goes beyond whether you got a slagging for wearing a certain t-shirt or you like certain music. We all have something a little dark, a little alternative in us, whether it's our love of metal music or keyboard cat or Doomy's Motivational posters, or just the off-the-wall sense of humour we all seem to share.

We all have something in common here, that's what draws us here, that's why so many relationships and IRL friendships have sprung up. I think we need to stop trying to enforce "alt-ness" on this place, stop trying to make it be what it was "meant" to be and just... let it BE.

I know that won't sit well with the die-hard original members, but... the way things are right now doesn't seem to be working. The forum is changing, right now for the worse. I'd hate to see it die altogether, but I'm not sure I'm even welcome here anymore. I worry about coming and posting because I haven't been around enough or I'm not alt enough. And that's really sad. I don't want to feel that way. I want us to be a happy family again!

Futurecrook wrote: »

(I mean, someone complained about the venue I chose for my frickin birthday... come on! :pac:)

oh yeah... *takes down name in book*

Anyone who's tried to organise a beers will understand how tough it is to please everyone.

this^ it are tough..

That said, I like all the places we go to because it's the people I go to beers for because the nocturnal forum is full of some pretty awesome people.

^this too. i'm not a big fan of metal music or whatever and dominion, while i likes the whole gothy thing wouldnt be my scene, but i like the people, so the venue (as long as its not crawling with scummers/staffed by arseholes) doesnt really matter much.

Regarding the starting new threads - it's exactly what the forum needs but a lot of thread ideas have been done before. The problem is, they're old and full of posts/discussion from people who no longer post in the forum. This leads to a few problems.
Let's say a new poster thinks of an idea for a thread, they search the forum and the old thread comes up. They don't want to start a new thread now because it's been done before but don't want to post in the old thread because it might be seen as resurrecting a 'zombie' thread (and everyone is well aware of our feelings on zombies around these parts) or because they look through it and know/recognise very few of the posters.

for the record: i dont get the whole zombie (grrrrr) thread thing on boards. i mean in the beginning i might have just followed the mod line, i cannot remember, but now i think its stoopid.

bump old threads if you want. or start new ones if its all old and off the page and stuff.
obviously if its a date specific thing theres no point, but other than that everyone have at it.

I wonder sometimes is there too much of an emphasis put on the Lair. The Lair seems to be the only really active thread around here most of the time.

liah wrote: »

Just feel pretty odd about posting as it seems a very close community, don't like intruding..

It isn't as close as most people would think.