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Youngest ever transsexual was 12

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  • #62
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    Links234 wrote: »
    if you have any countering evidence to the links in this post, then please show us.

    there is as much evidence one way or the other - I don't hide behind an excuse

    Einhard wrote: »
    Were you born intolerant or is that a lfestyle choice too?

    And I don't believe you're gay incidentally. Who on earth would choose to be discriminated and attacked and, in some countries, tortured and killed for their sexuality?? I smell BS sligopark.

    Einhard - how do I convince you - should I call round? Why is being gay not a valid choice to make in a tolerant western society? I am Gay and make no excuses - I may not throw it in peoples faces day to day but I do not deny it or make excuses of my choice - being Irish and Catholic used to be a cause for torture and death but I don't hear people like you saying 'sure they should have denied it or excused it thus 'they were born into it'

    perhaps it makes you feel better to whisper 'ah they are gay god bless them' but I would rather not have your pity and be proud to be gay and not run around once a year allowed to do so.

    Links234 you have some pride to gather


  • #63
    Einhard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Einhard


    sligopark wrote: »
    there is as much evidence one way or the other - I don't hide behind an excuse




    Einhard - how do I convince you - should I call round? Why is being gay not a valid choice to make in a tolerant western society? I am Gay and make no excuses - I may not throw it in peoples faces day to day but I do not deny it or make excuses of my choice - being Irish and Catholic used to be a cause for torture and death but I don't hear people like you saying 'sure they should have denied it or excused it thus 'they were born into it'

    perhaps it makes you feel better to whisper 'ah they are gay god bless them' but I would rather not have your pity and be proud to be gay and not run around once a year allowed to do so.

    Links234 you have some pride to gather

    How exactly do you explain homosexuals in Iran or Afghanistan then, who are subjected to routine persecution and even state sanctioned execution. Is it just a lifestyle choice for them too?


  • #64
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    Einhard wrote: »
    How exactly do you explain homosexuals in Iran or Afghanistan then, who are subjected to routine persecution and even state sanctioned execution. Is it just a lifestyle choice for them too?

    Yes - people choose to be subversive and be abused all over the world including these 'dancing boys'

    Why should I be subject to your pity Einhard?

    Why can I not choose to be Gay and be allowed?


  • #65
    Karl Hungus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    And this is why I find these threads so infuriating, it's like arguing with creationists. Whether or not transsexuality is psychological or biological in nature is pretty much a closed issue at this point in medical understanding, it's been proven to be a neurobiological condition. But that doesn't stop people from coming along and blurting out their ill formed opinions that "hurr durr, trannies are just crazy!" or in this instance, "it's a lifestyle choice, derp derp derp." :rolleyes:

    I'll just leave this here, and say that yes, I would. In a hearbeat. :)


  • #66
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    sligopark wrote: »
    there is as much evidence one way or the other - I don't hide behind an excuse

    if there is, then you can show us

    and I'm not hiding behind an excuse


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  • #67
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    crayolastereo wrote: »
    I never chose this.
    sligopark wrote: »
    this is not good - I would wish for you to be happy one way or the other - a happy female - we are only here once babe X(-:
    Karl Hungus wrote: »
    this

    Look's a beautiful happy female - lesbian or straight - why should crayolastereo's happiness be subject to your or Einhard's pity?

    Links234 - there is as much evidence either way - I did the doubt thing guilt thing and the excuse thing myself - wake up smell the roses and gather some pride


  • #68
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    sligopark wrote: »
    Links234 - there is as much evidence either way

    then show us an example


  • #69
    Craebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭Craebear


    sligopark wrote: »
    As a gay man am I not entitled to tell it as it is that it is a lifestyle choice for me without having to hide behind the unsubstantiated PC lie I was born this way - can I not choose to be gay without being flamed and open up the transexual born this way lie too - why can't Links234 just have the balls (no pun intended) and stand up to his valid choice to do his/her own thing and change his/her sex and go about his/her life without prejudice?

    the truth is the truth no matter how it is attacked

    PC poster boys - why is being gay or transexual not a valid choice without resorting to hiding behind a somesort of 'born this way' argument which has no evidence either way under scrutiny?


    Pretending to be something in order to try and strengthen your arguement is one of the oldest tricks in the book and in this case, very easy to see through. Try harder.


  • #70
    Karl Hungus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    So, Amy Daly. What do you think guys? I think she's even hotter than the girl in the OP.

    Oh my god, so very hot!


  • #71
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    Links234 give google a go and when you gather up some pride instead of hiding your VALID choice behind an excuse and gather some self respect and pride then reply to me

    Why do think it is not valid to be a transexual other than to give up the old one of 'please sir I was born this way' trick please allow me be transexual?

    Why trade in pity?


    Craebear wrote: »
    Pretending to be something in order to try and strengthen your arguement is one of the oldest tricks in the book and in this case, very easy to see through. Try harder.


    of course I will I promise to try to be gayer at work tomorrow - give it a break with the old one I am not gay in order to try and sully the truth and expediate the convenience of your pity - unfortunately I have a partner and in love bud but I tell you what would it be easier if I took photos and PM'ed you to convince you?


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  • #72
    cruiser178
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭cruiser178


    Karl Hungus wrote: »
    So, Amy Daly. What do you think guys? I think she's even hotter than the girl in the OP.

    Oh my god, so very hot!
    your joking ya?if that person dosent scream all man then i dont know what does,at least the girl/boy in the op looks famine.


  • #73
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    sligopark wrote: »
    Links234 give google a go and when you gather up some pride instead of hiding your VALID choice behind an excuse and gather some self respect and pride then reply to me

    Why do think it is not valid to be a transexual other than to give up the old one of 'please sir I was born this way' trick please allow me be transexual?

    Why trade in pity?

    and a one, and a two, and a... if there's evidence show us! :pac:

    you're the one making the claims that there's as much evidence either way, so the burden of proof is on you.

    also, how exactly did you choose to be gay? I mean, break it down for us. you were there one day, a regular heterosexual guy, and you just decide to be homosexual? how does that work?


  • #74
    fonecrusher1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,985 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    Karl Hungus wrote: »
    Oh my god, so very hot!

    No.

    No it isn't.


  • #75
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    cruiser178 wrote: »
    your joking ya?if that person dosent scream all man then i dont know what does,at least the girl/boy in the op looks famine.

    ...as if they're missing a spud?


  • #76
    Karl Hungus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Oi! That's my future girlfriend you're talking about. :mad:


  • #77
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    Links234 wrote: »
    also, how exactly did you choose to be gay? I mean, break it down for us. you were there one day, a regular heterosexual guy, and you just decide to be homosexual? how does that work?


    Ok as a teen I shagged girls then older I fancied girls and boys, then I started shagging blokes - do you want sexual acts too?

    I choose to be gay because I enjoyed it more - it thrilled me and then I found more in common and then found comfort and love - I chose.

    and you?


  • #78
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    sligopark wrote: »
    I choose to be gay because I enjoyed it more

    sounds like rubbish to me, like saying "I choose to like chocolate icecream better because I enjoyed it more", you didn't choose to prefer chocolate icecream, that just happens to be your tastes.

    still waiting on you to back up your claims that people aren't born transgender and provide one bit of physical evidence. :)


  • #79
    cruiser178
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭cruiser178


    Karl Hungus wrote: »
    Oi! That's my future girlfriend you're talking about. :mad:
    So have you two love birds decided whos going to be the giver and whos going to be the taker:D


  • #80
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    Links234 wrote: »
    still waiting on you to back up your claims that people aren't born transgender and provide one bit of physical evidence. :)

    still waiting on you to actually provide anything other than teary stories producing pity to solidly back up stories of 'born this way' rubbish and claim pride in your VALID choice to change sex - why should you? Its YOUR choice no matter what those pity activists tell you.

    The laugh is when I bare my journey you blow it off and try and gain sort of moral or ethical ground by asking me back up my testimony rather than get some gumption and gather up some pride in your CHOICE rather than play the pity card


    this is why people like me don't frequent pride marches because they aren't that - they are shame/ pity / freak marches to be avoided by the truly proud to be gay people

    chanege your gender as you like but your shame forces others like us to hide and feel as others posted on here earlier

    you trade on pity


  • #81
    L.Jenkins
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    Sligo, it does sound like you did wake up one morning and chose to be gay. Not gay bashing though. For some its not a choice and alot of lgbt choose to attend these events for personal reasons. I wish i could choose not to be transsexual, but i like many dont have a choice.


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  • #82
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    ItsThatManAgain wrote: »
    Sligo, it does sound like you did wake up one morning and chose to be gay. Not gay bashing though. For some its not a choice and alot of lgbt choose to attend these events for personal reasons. I wish i could choose not to be transsexual, but i like many dont have a choice.

    well perhaps its was transexuality and I found one side or the other but it then wasn't anyhting 'born to' it was choice

    when you on a homosexual encounter do you excuse it next day to your mates with the 'born to' card?

    why can you choose one night and I can not choose every night?


  • #83
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    sligopark wrote: »
    still waiting on you to actually provide anything other than teary stories

    I never posted anything like that,
    what I posted was links to scientific studies and medical evidence that offer proof, that you seem to have just completely ignored.

    lemme show you again:
    Transsexual gene link identified
    Male-to-Female Transsexuals Have Female Neuron Numbers in a Limbic Nucleus
    Male-to-Female Transsexuals Show Sex-Atypical Hypothalamus Activation When Smelling Odorous Steroids
    Regional Grey Matter Variation in Male-to-Female Transsexualism
    A sex difference in the hypothalamic uncinate nucleus: relationship to gender identity.
    White matter microstructure in female to male transsexuals before cross-sex hormonal treatment. A diffusion tensor imaging study.
    A Sex Difference in the Human Brain and its Relation to Transsexuality
    Gender Identity and phantom genitalia
    Typical female 2nd–4th finger length (2D:4D) ratios in male-to-female transsexuals—possible implications for prenatal androgen exposure

    try read some of those links this time.

    and I don't appreciate your insulting digs that I don't have pride or that I "trade on pity" or whatever that's supposed to mean, I'm not ashamed for who I am and I am not looking for pity.

    also, you can't dictate to me that I made a choice. you don't speak for me, you don't know my mind and you certainly don't speak for the countless other LGBT people in this world who've said they did not make a choice. are they all liars or something? I did not choose to be the way I am, I just am. and that's the truth. you can keep posting, but that's the truth and that's not going to change.

    STILL waiting for you to provide one single thing to counter all the links to the scientific evidence that prove people are born this way.


  • #84
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    Links234 wrote: »
    STILL waiting for you to provide one single thing to counter all the links to the scientific evidence that prove people are born this way.

    al your links are pity links - plenty of links via google that espouse non genetic transexuality - not interested in a peeing against the wall party

    Pride vs Pity

    You make the jump - you ll feel better and happier for it ;)


  • #85
    Scarinae
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,362 ✭✭✭✭Scarinae


    sligopark wrote: »
    when you on a homosexual encounter do you excuse it next day to your mates with the 'born to' card?

    Why should anyone have to 'excuse' a homosexual encounter to anyone? There is nothing wrong with it, and it is nobody else's business what people get up to in the bedroom


  • #86
    L.Jenkins
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    Well good for you sligo having a choice. Most lgbt people I've met never had that choice even after experiencing both sides of the fence.


  • #87
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    ItsThatManAgain wrote: »
    Well good for you sligo having a choice. Most lgbt people I've met never had that choice even after experiencing both sides of the fence.

    haven met lots of them I don't believe it - most them want to hide under the pity card and want to hide away in the depths of sligo / leitrim
    Fishie wrote: »
    Why should anyone have to 'excuse' a homosexual encounter to anyone? There is nothing wrong with it, and it is nobody else's business what people get up to in the bedroom

    Thank you - why shouldn't transexuality too?

    Why should they hide under the pity card? Love to see Links234 step up and say I choose this and you know what f_ck ye all I am happy? Why shouldn't transexuals?

    I just don't get it and if I hadn't fought my corner here in AH hours we wouldn't have reached this point ....


  • #88
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    sligopark wrote: »
    al your links are pity links

    what has pity got to do with anything? it's medical facts
    plenty of links via google that espouse non genetic transexuality

    the burden of proof is on you, so show us just ONE thing supporting your claim. :)


  • #89
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    dicks like you shame folks into suicide and hiding their valid life choices - for that you should be deeply ashamed

    shame on you you pity freak

    Mod Edit.

    Sligopark has been banned for the above personal abuse.


  • #90
    Craebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭Craebear


    Heh bored I see, go post those pictures then. Don't PM them to me, I won't look at them, post them here in this thread.

    They'll be fake anyway, easy to go on facebook and rob someone elses pictures.

    Alternatively you can **** off, this attempt at trolling is just piss poor.


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  • #91
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    sligopark, you're full of crap, you refuse to back up anything you've said and all you do is say pity blah blah pride blah pity blah blah non stop. you've got nothing worth saying but you keep talking.

    it's nothing about pride or pity, it is FACT that transsexual people are born that way. it's not an excuse, it's not a "card", it's the truth.

    insulting me doesn't make you right either, it just makes you look like someone without an argument who's throwing mud


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