Pro-Israel BBC bias on Flotilla Massacre documentary.

robtri wrote: »

and attacking a solider with bars is also an attack.....

Yes it is, but your aren't being true to the facts.

The IDF (after they had attacked from the Zodiacs) were shooting live ammunition onto the top deck, even alastair can accept this. This was before any soliders were attacked. Now, if we look at the legal definition of "self-defense" we can see that the passengers did absolutely NOTHING WRONG and acted FULLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW. In fact, they would have been when within their rights to actually kill all the soliders who threatened their lives. They didn't though, they could've; they had commandos disarmed and at their mercy. Instead they administered first-aid to the soliders who had been sent to kill them. So not only did they adhere to the rule of law they behaved morally impeccably.

self-defense - http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1909
n. the use of reasonable force to protect oneself or members of the family from bodily harm from the attack of an aggressor, if the defender has reason to believe he/she/they is/are in danger. Self-defense is a common defense by a person accused of assault, battery or homicide. The force used in self-defense may be sufficient for protection from apparent harm (not just an empty verbal threat) or to halt any danger from attack, but cannot be an excuse to continue the attack or use excessive force. Examples: an unarmed man punches Allen Alibi, who hits the attacker with a baseball bat. That is legitimate self-defense, but Alibi cannot chase after the attacker and shoot him or beat him senseless. If the attacker has a gun or a butcher knife and is verbally threatening, Alibi is probably warranted in shooting him. Basically, appropriate self-defense is judged on all the circumstances. Reasonable force can also be used to protect property from theft or destruction. Self-defense cannot include killing or great bodily harm to defend property, unless personal danger is also involved, as is the case in most burglaries, muggings or vandalism.

Now compare that to "self-defense" Israeli style. Their version of self-defense is a bullet for a stone. It was only this week (or last?) that a settler security guard, who are financed by the government had a stone thrown at his car by a Palestinian in illegally occupied Palestinian territory. The settler chased the man, a father-of-five and shot him dead in cold-blood, in "self-defense".

And it doesn't end there. The murderer was released on bail within 48 hours and THEN the members of the grieving family were arrested by the IDF in the dead of night carrying out beatings on the family.
http://silwanic.net/?p=6798

harryd2 wrote: »

Yes they took thousands of EUR of equipment and never returned it.
One guy had his phone taken and when he got back home, he had a massive bill for international calls made from Israel.

It was actually millions of euros of equipment they took from the passengers.

The ship was looted. And IDF officer sold laptops to other soliders.

Passengers had their credit cards used to buy beer in Israel FFS.

“It looks as though they tried to use it without the PIN code and could not, but they could use it in a vending machine and had multiple accesses to my card to buy beer, according to the statement,” Sheetz said.


“What it means is that I witnessed the Israeli Navy going and killing people and at the end buying beer with my card,” she added.


Italian journalist Manolo Luppichini discovered that while he was confined in Be’er Sheva and after he was back in Italy a day after his deportation – purchases were made with his credit card, which the Israeli authorities had confiscated.


One purchase was from a vending machine in Tel Aviv for about NIS 10 on June 2, he says. Another purchase, for NIS 240, was made in Gedera’s Village Market, while Luppichini himself was in Italy.

http://flotillamassacrepassengers.wordpress.com/category/usa/kathy-sheetz/

All courtesy of our IDF friends in the most moral army in the world.