Shooting goats...?

tfox · 08-09-2010 09:51PM #1

Where do I stand on shooting goats ...? Farmer friend of mine has asked me to deal with 4 feral goats on his land, any problems with me shooting them ....?

Tackleberrywho · 08-09-2010 09:52PM

tfox wrote: »

Where do I stand on shooting goats ...? Farmer friend of mine has asked me to deal with 4 feral goats on his land, any problems with me shooting them ....?

only issue is disposal of them, and the SMELL!!

dan17 · 08-09-2010 09:54PM

ya they sure stink

tfox · 08-09-2010 09:56PM

I know, thats why I cant eat goat, anything that smells like the animal it comes from isn't right !! And goats smell of goat p*** !! :mad:

Cass · 08-09-2010 10:08PM

If i remember correctly there is no season as they are not a protected species and therefore no minimum calibre either. However as with all things you want a quick, clean kill so a deer calibre rifle would be the solution.

Just a word of warning. Be sure they are wild/feral. As in NO OWNER. Its amazing how a "wild" goat suddenly becomes a "beloved family animal" when its been shot.

tfox · 08-09-2010 10:12PM

140gr of angry 6.5 will be headed their way !! Have shot plenty of goats in Scotland with .243 so not a novice to it !!

Birdnuts · 08-09-2010 10:21PM

tfox wrote: »

I know, thats why I cant eat goat, anything that smells like the animal it comes from isn't right !! And goats smell of goat p*** !! :mad:

Is that the case for both sexes?? - I thought only the Billy-Goat stank

PS: Can wild goats be hunted with dogs??

Tackleberrywho · 08-09-2010 10:27PM

Birdnuts wrote: »

Is that the case for both sexes?? - I thought only the Billy-Goat stank

PS: Can wild goats be hunted with dogs??

Billy goat stinks, but If I smell cottage cheese i get the same smell.
Nanny Goat may smell if she has been cavorting with billy goat.

Any time I hunted goat I burned my clothes after!

Cass · 08-09-2010 10:29PM

Never meant to imply that, so sorry if it came across as such. It was more a general statement for all.

Tackleberrywho · 08-09-2010 10:43PM

ezridax wrote: »

Never meant to imply that, so sorry if it came across as such. It was more a general statement for all.

imply what?

Years since I shot goat. I had a few heads, gave them away, even after boiling they stank!

There are a few feral herds near me, I could not be bothered with them. No hunting involved as the smell leads straight to them

Cass · 08-09-2010 11:06PM

Was replying to tfox, there Tack.

tfox wrote: »

........... so not a novice to it !!

From the time i went to reply to the post and the time i actually replied and posted there were 2 other posts, yours and Birdnuts so it looked like i was responding to your post.

Tackleberrywho · 08-09-2010 11:11PM

ezridax wrote: »

Was replying to tfox, there Tack.

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There are a few goats up your way, I saw them a few years back

tfox · 09-09-2010 12:02AM

ezridax wrote: »

Never meant to imply that, so sorry if it came across as such. It was more a general statement for all.

God no dont worry bout it !! was taken as a general statement

The Big Fella · 09-09-2010 12:17AM

I heard one time that goat is the most consumed meat in the world! Its hard to believe that with the smell of em. Theres no shortage of em in the midlands!:D I seen a herd of over 25 out on the bog during the summer.

tfox · 09-09-2010 12:22AM

The Big Fella wrote: »

I heard one time that goat is the most consumed meat in the world! Its hard to believe that with the smell of em. Theres no shortage of em in the midlands!:D I seen a herd of over 25 out on the bog during the summer.

I heard that too. But I suppose when you think of all the middle eastern countries, sparse farmland, goats will live on nothing

Sparks · 09-09-2010 12:24AM

The Big Fella wrote: »

Its hard to believe that with the smell of em.

Stick them in a pit barbecue for sixteen hours, or in a strong curry, and you might change your mind

Tackleberrywho · 09-09-2010 12:27AM

The Big Fella wrote: »

I heard one time that goat is the most consumed meat in the world! Its hard to believe that with the smell of em. Theres no shortage of em in the midlands!:D I seen a herd of over 25 out on the bog during the summer.

I hate the taste of them
I really hate the smell of them.

they are everywhere in the midlands.
i've shot a few down the years,

I would like to make a Bodhrán out of one, although many people don't know most bodhrán's are made out of slow greyhounds lol

Tackleberrywho · 09-09-2010 12:29AM

Sparks wrote: »

Stick them in a pit barbecue for sixteen hours, or in a strong curry, and you might change your mind

Must be a slurry pit

Sparks, if you ever want Billy the kid i can supply

I've a mad cousin with a herd of them on his land.

he thinks they are lucky!

meathstevie · 09-09-2010 12:48PM

tfox wrote: »

I heard that too. But I suppose when you think of all the middle eastern countries, sparse farmland, goats will live on nothing

Aye, and the best way to keep it sparse is to keep them feckers on it...

deerhunter1 · 09-09-2010 01:16PM

ezridax wrote: »

If i remember correctly there is no season as they are not a protected species and therefore no minimum calibre either. However as with all things you want a quick, clean kill so a deer calibre rifle would be the solution.

Just a word of warning. Be sure they are wild/feral. As in NO OWNER. Its amazing how a "wild" goat suddenly becomes a "beloved family animal" when its been shot.

Correct on that, got caught like that some years ago:mad:

kildare.17hmr · 09-09-2010 01:19PM

deerhunter1 wrote: »

Correct on that, got caught like that some years ago:mad:

Howd ya get out of that one???

Tackleberrywho · 09-09-2010 01:32PM

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

Howd ya get out of that one???

Cash Pound notes as they say!

Many say they own them if on their land, and that they are not theirs if they are on a neighbors land!

So make sure they are feral!

deerhunter1 · 09-09-2010 06:11PM

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

Howd ya get out of that one???

Many years ago I had a "contract" with a forestry crowd to cull goats on their land and surrounding area, land owners in the area also gave me permission to pursue goats that strayed to their land. I was getting a nice few shillings per goat shot and it kept me fit during summer months. Little did I know that there was one contrary land owner with land in the vicinity but lived elsewhere that claimed some of the goats I shot were "Pedigree" goats that belonged to him. No-one had seen this guy for years, may have been living in England. The sh-t hit the fan. Solicitors got involved, I was interviewed, then heard no more about it, dont know what transpired from it, but I was slowly faded out from being called back.:(

Deroluma · 25-09-2010 10:19PM

I guys, I'm new at this so please apologies if i done this wrong.
According to my research on goat hunting , as long as the goat in question is wild or ferral then it's a vermin, and like the wildboar in England it does not have any protection as it's not recognise by the government as game or vermint , therefore the ferral goat can be shot with any caliber including shotgun. On a personal note I think they should be treated with the same respect as deer so the bigger caliber is best, I use hornady .270 sst 130 gr.
As far as the meet is concerned I like it .
If you know where I can go and get some goats please let me know.

patsat · 26-09-2010 09:58AM

Up in an area I shoot there is a herd of goats seen every now and again, one fella that I shoot with reckons one of the goats has a gold medal head.

If so how would you go about measuring this one the goat is shot??

Also does anyone here have pics of medal goats they shot?

tfox · 26-09-2010 11:41AM

Deroluma wrote: »

I guys, I'm new at this so please apologies if i done this wrong.
According to my research on goat hunting , as long as the goat in question is wild or ferral then it's a vermin, and like the wildboar in England it does not have any protection as it's not recognise by the government as game or vermint , therefore the ferral goat can be shot with any caliber including shotgun. On a personal note I think they should be treated with the same respect as deer so the bigger caliber is best, I use hornady .270 sst 130 gr.
As far as the meet is concerned I like it .
If you know where I can go and get some goats please let me know.

I'm afraid the above mentioned goats have been dealt with

Deroluma · 26-09-2010 11:44AM

Hi there for pictures of big goats you could visit www.amplehunting.com
The gold medal are awarded on a point system and it's to do with the girth and length of the horns, I think but not sure but you may have to bring them or send them away in order to get the certificate.
In Australia they go for the distance between the tips of the horns and in Europe it's the length , although that depends on the ripe of horn, ie straight back or corkscrew type.
I have one at 30 inches long and I'm getting it mounted.
Hope that helps

patsat · 26-09-2010 11:54AM

Thanks Deroluma

Does anyone know where I would go to a head graded/ measured? I'm based on the border of Limerick and tipp.

Grizzly 45 · 26-09-2010 01:58PM

Unlesss wild goat becomes a recognised trophy animal here you will have a job getting it recognised anywhere.Usually it is up to a national hunting body in the country which deals with deer,goats or antelope species to recognise and award a medal for the trophy.
Which we do not have here.:(

Feargal as Luimneach · 26-09-2010 02:24PM

Feral goats are a threat to the terns on Dalkey Island. Some people don't want them removed because they look nice:mad: They are non-native/vermin on the main Island. If they were removed a good sized tern colony could be established on the main Island.
http://www.birdweb.net/ternleaflet2010.pdf

Deroluma · 26-09-2010 03:18PM

I see what you mean about some people liking them, there is a hole section on boards.ie about them and how nice they are and also they are supposed to have a vet looking out for them. Unless the government wants them gone that's a dead duck.
Still interested in hunting them if anybody know of any farmer looking to get rid on one or two.

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