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Leaving Cert History 2010

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 Tony1130


    What has a better chance of coming up Montgomery BB or Advancements in technology??


  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭cailin_donn


    a few people are predicitng US economy BUT, is the CAUSES of the boom or the SOCIAL EFFECTS of the boom more likely to come up? because we only ever did an essay on effects...

    Also, for the rest of the course I'm doing
    Sov&Part:
    Sinn Fein, why 1916 failed, why Treaty negotiations failed, CnaG and FF economy

    USA:
    Civil Rights, Vietnam (why in&why out), social effects of post war boom and collapse of consensus

    Dict&Dem:
    Anglo-American Pop culture, how stalin maintained control through terror&propaganda, church-state relations and i havent picked a 4th yet. maybe how mussolini came to power


  • Registered Users Posts: 46 LNags


    i actually hate sovereignty and partition :( my essays are from fourth year and are therefore extremely terrible!! my one on the eucharistic congress is just going on and on about banners and bunting and flags and how awesome the place looked... hahahaha..oh im fuuucked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭zam


    Tony1130 wrote: »
    What has a better chance of coming up Montgomery BB or Advancements in technology??

    Technology with space race. Montgomery came up as the document last year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 Tony1130


    k thanks i've studied vietnam & Foreign policy & Domestic Factors in a lot of detail and ill study adv in tech the morning of the test since it starts at 2.00

    Good luck to u all in the LC


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭Mweelrea


    Just a quick question in relation to the essay's in the exam. A friend of mine heard that you need to quotes as part of your essay and that you need more sources than just the history book. Is this true ? Personally i'm not so sure but if it is then my history teacher has really left us in the dark.

    Thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 jenjenxx


    hey, like yi all i am dreading this history exam, i need a least a b1 and im freakin out! this is what ive learned (well hope to have learnt)

    D+D:
    church state relations germany +italy
    stalin: show trials (just)
    JARROW (please god)
    hitlers foriegn policy
    little bit on nuremburg if stuck

    America:
    how did america get involved in vietnam and why it failed
    US economy-boom and decline
    moon landing
    little bit on montgomery+ toubled affluence

    irish history:
    GAA/gaelic league
    1885 general elction (fingers crossed)
    1913 lockout
    tiny bit on unionism and home rule

    documents:
    SUNNINGDALE!!!
    ill cover coleraine a little bit to get thro it aswell!

    there the things i hope to learn...in a few days!:) do ti think ill be covered...im so nervous.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭theowen


    Has Jarrow ever come up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Rothmans


    theowen wrote: »
    Has Jarrow ever come up?

    It's come up pretty much every year in some form or other


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 jenjenxx


    people say it cant come up 4 da fifth year in a row, but id put money on jarrow coming up again, and its a nice essay too!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 716 ✭✭✭fufureida


    jenjenxx wrote: »
    people say it cant come up 4 da fifth year in a row, but id put money on jarrow coming up again, and its a nice essay too!

    Their is nothing more they can ask on it... Making it highly unlikely to come up.

    D+D: Facist Regimes, Anglo American ( please god...!!!) Nuremberg Rallies, Church State Relations, anti Semitidm.

    USA: Vietnam why and how, montogomery plus troubled affluence/racial conflict, moon landing plus advancements, cold war tensions

    SOV: EC and broader, 1916 rising, Belfast case study plus broader... And another I can't think of!

    NI book: everything. But I don't have essays done one cultural significance of ABOD and steps to sunningdales establishment. If anyone has notes a sample answer or paragraph points I can use to make up my essay let me know please!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 Tony1130


    I'd recommend studying Lenin & Stalin plus show trials i guarantee its coming up in some form along with germany + italy & jarrow march

    For the irish book anglo irish relations hasnt come up in a while & factors tht contribute to partition from 1912 also .. and of course Eucharistic Congress!

    Us Foreign and domestic should pretty much cover u unless they throw up a question on a president or sumtin.. Come on Vietnam and McCarthyism


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 MarkDurc


    reckon il b safe with this:

    Sov and Par:

    Anglo Irish Relations 1923-1945
    Eucharistic + Lan. Edu. Rel
    WW2 North and South + Belfast
    Treaty + Civil War
    and maybe Partition for backup

    Dic and Dem:

    Mussolini(to a tee)
    Stalin + Russia(not Lenin)
    Hitler(consolidating power and establishing totalitarian regime, propaganda, characteristics of nazi state)
    Britain Soc/Eco problems

    USA:

    Montgomery
    US Foreign Policy(both periods)
    Vietnam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭Victoria.


    I'm studying all of my D+D topics today:confused:

    Was going to do:
    1. Stalin purges and show trials
    2. Jarrow
    3. Nuremberg and Nazi propaganda
    4. Weimer and Hitler to power (that's all nothing about Hitler Germany)
    5. Vichy collaboration & resistance
    6. Church state Germany and Italy
    7. The Final Solution
    That's all I have time to do now.
    Hope it will be enough.
    I'm the worst procrastinator ever. :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭dodgystuff


    I have zero time for History study :(
    So I've cut it down to this:

    SOV: Sinn Fein 1918 Election; Fianna Fail and CnaG Economic/Foreign Policies and consolidation of democracy for CnaG

    DIV&REALIGNMENT: EEC; Second Vatican Council; Hungarian Uprising

    D+D: (this is the one I'm most worried about so I'd appreciate any suggestions to do other things)
    I've done:
    Anti Semitism
    Nazi Propaganda
    Mussolini coming to power and consolidation of democracy
    Stalin Show Trials/Use Of Terror
    Characteristics Of Fascist/Dictator Regimes

    Should I do something on Church state relations?


    For the documents I'm gonna do Sunningdale & Coleraine in detail and then roughly ABODs. There's a very slim chance of that coming up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭brianw1


    can somebody answer these few questions for me, much appreciatedbiggrin.gif

    1) Alot of people are goin on about pop culture coming up, I know the anglo american pop culture essay but im certain thats in the 1920s and 1930s

    what would you basically put into a pop culture essay thats set around the 50s and 60s...or is this even possible to come up?

    2) what does subjective and objective mean

    3) I know cng ff, jarrow, rise of fascism, vietnam and 1918 GE. going to learn improvements in intechnology and anti semetism today

    are there any other massivly tipped essays that i have left out?

    ty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭zam


    Here everyone - don't cut corners with the document. Don't just learn Sunningdale. Sure, focus on it, but for God's sake learn all three! Have enough to write 2~ pages on it... You really are just throwing away marks if you don't learn all three...


  • Registered Users Posts: 410 ✭✭Kevvv


    brianw1 wrote: »
    can somebody answer these few questions for me, much appreciatedbiggrin.gif

    1) Alot of people are goin on about pop culture coming up, I know the anglo american pop culture essay but im certain thats in the 1920s and 1930s

    what would you basically put into a pop culture essay thats set around the 50s and 60s...or is this even possible to come up?

    2) what does subjective and objective mean

    3) I know cng ff, jarrow, rise of fascism, vietnam and 1918 GE. going to learn improvements in intechnology and anti semetism today

    are there any other massivly tipped essays that i have left out?

    ty
    Economic war with britain and Eucharistic Congress could show up. Montgomery/racism is good to know aswell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 fuzzel


    fufureida wrote: »
    Their is nothing more they can ask on it... Making it highly unlikely to come up.
    I reckon that's exactly what people were saying last year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭theowen


    zam wrote: »
    Here everyone - don't cut corners with the document. Don't just learn Sunningdale. Sure, focus on it, but for God's sake learn all three! Have enough to write 2~ pages on it... You really are just throwing away marks if you don't learn all three...
    I'd say it's a flip a coin sort of thing really :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭theowen


    brianw1 wrote: »
    can somebody answer these few questions for me, much appreciatedbiggrin.gif

    1) Alot of people are goin on about pop culture coming up, I know the anglo american pop culture essay but im certain thats in the 1920s and 1930s

    what would you basically put into a pop culture essay thats set around the 50s and 60s...or is this even possible to come up?

    2) what does subjective and objective mean

    3) I know cng ff, jarrow, rise of fascism, vietnam and 1918 GE. going to learn improvements in intechnology and anti semetism today

    are there any other massivly tipped essays that i have left out?

    ty
    1. I can't see them limiting the essay with dates.
    2. Subjective means allowing you're personal feelings come into making a decision/being biased. E.g. if you're given a source by a unionist and he's criticizing the nationalists on something, you could say he's being subjective. Objective's the opposite.

    3. The Churches in Germany and Italy. Rise of SF, Anglo-American popular culture.

    I'd literally wet my self if they came up:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Rothmans


    Mweelrea wrote: »
    Just a quick question in relation to the essay's in the exam. A friend of mine heard that you need to quotes as part of your essay and that you need more sources than just the history book. Is this true ? Personally i'm not so sure but if it is then my history teacher has really left us in the dark.

    Thanks.

    Your friend heard wrong.Not true at all. You don't even need to quote, let alone use quotes from texts other than your history books


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 LeeLeepet


    belfast world war 2,
    sunningdale,
    church state relations with fascist leaders,
    vietnam

    They are the soundest ones floating around. however NOT to be relied on - couldn't hurt to know them though. also CASE STUDIES.


  • Registered Users Posts: 189 ✭✭hokeypokey


    theowen wrote: »
    1. I can't see them limiting the essay with dates.
    2. Subjective means allowing you're personal feelings come into making a decision/being biased. E.g. if you're given a source by a unionist and he's criticizing the nationalists on something, you could say he's being subjective. Objective's the opposite.

    3. The Churches in Germany and Italy. Rise of SF, Anglo-American popular culture.

    I'd literally wet my self if they came up:rolleyes:

    What American topic do you want to come up?


  • Registered Users Posts: 716 ✭✭✭fufureida


    What are the four most tipped essays? I'm only learning four per book


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭zam


    fufureida wrote: »
    What are the four most tipped essays? I'm only learning four per book

    Focus on the case studies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 SEInvincible


    I pretty much know Coleraine and the Ab's.

    So i have a 66% chance of bein alright.

    if sunningdale comes up i'll go crazy , havent a clue about it , well i havent studied it i mean. it's 6 pages long in less stress :Z


  • Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭dodgystuff


    My teacher was saying about the in-service things they had about the Document question.

    She said they had one each for Coleraine and Sunningdale and then another one for all 3 but none for Apprentice Boys on its own so tbh it looks like it'd be the least likely to come up. I'm not saying leave it out though but personally, I'm concentrating on the other two.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 SEInvincible


    dodgystuff wrote: »
    My teacher was saying about the in-service things they had about the Document question.

    She said they had one each for Coleraine and Sunningdale and then another one for all 3 but none for Apprentice Boys on its own so tbh it looks like it'd be the least likely to come up. I'm not saying leave it out though but personally, I'm concentrating on the other two.

    i'm gonna have to learn sunningdale now:( its so long.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 jenjenxx


    wats da other essay dat could come up on sunningdale??i no da why it failed one! is der another one? :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 716 ✭✭✭fufureida


    jenjenxx wrote: »
    wats da other essay dat could come up on sunningdale??i no da why it failed one! is der another one? :)

    steps to establish sunnigdale. I need to prepare points on that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭theowen


    hokeypokey wrote: »
    What American topic do you want to come up?
    I've 8 essays, and I'd be happy with either really:p

    Perhaps the decline of the economy just because I got 93% in it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31 repeat92


    im repeatin this godforsaken leaving cert.. last yr i did a fairly good job of predicting history. i got an A1. after some intense analysis of the exam papers theres what i think

    sunningdale because its broad and theres so much that could be asked on it whereas coleraine and apprentice boys in are small and i would expect an honours question to be asked here

    eucharistic congress( priests scandal) plus it didnt come up last yr
    belfast ww2..

    church state relations.( 100% sure its coming up as sean delap from leeson strt tipped it for last yr but didnt show so he said it has to come up this yr)
    show trials
    possibly jarrow march

    foreign policy.
    johnson and veitnam
    moonlanding.. theres no way montgommerry would come up it came up lasy yr.


    this is all im studying..im praying for the best..:p


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭CasualLiKE


    repeat92 wrote: »
    im repeatin this godforsaken leaving cert.. last yr i did a fairly good job of predicting history. i got an A1. after some intense analysis of the exam papers theres what i think

    sunningdale because its broad and theres so much that could be asked on it whereas coleraine and apprentice boys in are small and i would expect an honours question to be asked here

    eucharistic congress( priests scandal) plus it didnt come up last yr
    belfast ww2..

    church state relations.( 100% sure its coming up as sean delap from leeson strt tipped it for last yr but didnt show so he said it has to come up this yr)
    show trials
    possibly jarrow march

    foreign policy.
    johnson and veitnam
    moonlanding.. theres no way montgommerry would come up it came up lasy yr.


    this is all im studying..im praying for the best..:p

    Why are you repeating history when you got an A1? Makes no sense lol


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31 repeat92


    ha just coz i got an A1 in history doesnt mean i did well in everything else.. i didnt get the points i wanted..


  • Registered Users Posts: 716 ✭✭✭fufureida


    Hmmm... Priest scandal WTF???


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31 repeat92


    you know the whole priests thing that was in the media.. look you can either agree or disagree with my predictions. your choice..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭EuropeanSon


    CasualLiKE wrote: »
    Why are you repeating history when you got an A1? Makes no sense lol
    You can't use last years points, so obviously he's counting on his history points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭Sl!mCharles


    I pretty much know Coleraine and the Ab's.

    So i have a 66% chance of bein alright.

    if sunningdale comes up i'll go crazy , havent a clue about it , well i havent studied it i mean. it's 6 pages long in less stress :Z
    Just learn 'Why it Failed'. I think thats the main question they ask really


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭RetroRainbow


    Thanks repeat92, that's a pretty helpful list. I'm repeating myself, just after taking up History as a new subject this year!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24 DayTripper


    Thanks repeat92, that's a pretty helpful list. I'm repeating myself, just after taking up History as a new subject this year!

    ... you're feckin crazy.

    Seriously, just wow. That's an awful lot to learn in one year! :eek:
    Hope all goes well for you in the exam (and me :p).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭Victoria.


    I'm so nervous for tomorrow :(
    French and history!
    :confused:
    I'm going over the case studies today and the documents that's all I have time to do because I have to study for french as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 neilquiksilver


    im so screwed for this tomorrow i hope cumann na ngaedhael, pureges, church state relations, moonlanding nd boom in america come up im so screed if they dnt nd sunningdale of course


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 jenjenxx


    HELP! totally 4got bot da documents, sunningdales grand, but wat could dey ask on coleraine ( da long part of it)
    any1??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 Tony1130


    I hope coleraine comes up cz its d easiest.. but the questions has to be fairly broad since its a fairly short document question and there doesnt seem to be much they can ask..so i'd just study it broadly but thts my opinion sry if im wrong .. same with abod too thts y Sunningdale has a better chance of coming up i guess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭EuropeanSon


    jenjenxx wrote: »
    HELP! totally 4got bot da documents, sunningdales grand, but wat could dey ask on coleraine ( da long part of it)
    any1??
    Just the events, a summary type question I suppose. Just write about the Robbins report as the precedent, the criteria used in choosing, Magee College, the outrage afterwards, the protests, the united prot/cath campaign and then a bit about the "nameless faceless men".


  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭Mwah


    ok i know the answer is probs no
    but is this enough to cover the irish book???
    rise of election of sinn fein
    finna fail economy
    cnag economy
    and
    Anglo Irish relations


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 101 ✭✭Scan Man


    Mwah wrote: »
    ok i know the answer is probs no
    but is this enough to cover the irish book???
    rise of election of sinn fein
    finna fail economy
    cnag economy
    and
    Anglo Irish relations

    You'd be really stretching it I'm afraid, you'd have to know it fairly inside out. I'm just going to do my usual shotgun approach and learn a bit of all the chapters and then fire it onto the page in wherever the info fits.


  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭Mwah


    :(:(
    ok im gonna look over 1916 and home rule aswell


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭BrenosBolts91


    im hoping for a b2 this year. i got a b3 last year with really ****ty essays so i hope i actually get a few nice ones this time around


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