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How many Weight Watchers points in ... ?-PLEASE USE MAIN STICKY THREAD

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭stripysocks85


    Complete guesses but:
    Wrap [3]
    Chicken [2.5 or 3]
    Onions/Peppers [0]
    Mozzarella about 56g [not sure how much is in a ball of it] [4.5]
    2 tablespoons of pesto [1.5]
    so 11.5 points overall. About. Feckin cheese ruins everything! :(

    Digi scales are the ONLY way to go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭The Big Red Button


    Complete guesses but:
    Wrap [3]
    Chicken [2.5 or 3]
    Onions/Peppers [0]
    Mozzarella about 56g [not sure how much is in a ball of it] [4.5]
    2 tablespoons of pesto [1.5]
    so 11.5 points overall. About. Feckin cheese ruins everything! :(

    Digi scales are the ONLY way to go.

    :eek::eek::eek:

    Thanks ... :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭stripysocks85


    Sorry! :(
    Look, my estimations could be TOTALLY out. Or at least if anything, they're more than what the wrap probably really was! Don't worry. Just be aware that it is impossible to tell when you don't have the nutritional info for it yourself. Eating out is just so hit & miss unfortunately! You'd think I'd learn from my own advice and stop doing it then :P :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭The Big Red Button


    Yeah I hated having to do it, especially when I've been so methodical about weighing everything the last couple of days! :(

    OK, how about this one. I found a pack of Milton Gate bacon medallions in the fridge, and grilled one for myself. According to the packet, one typical grilled medallion contains 26 calories and 0.2g saturated fat. That seems to be working out at just half a point!!! Is it a case that, if it seems too good to be true, it probably is?

    It was soooooo good, by the way! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭Dotcomdolly


    The bacon medallions I get from Aldi are half a point each so you are prob right, if you are having 2 it might work out as 1.5 though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭stripysocks85


    2 still works out as 1 point. If you are having 2 of something and it only gives you the information for 2, then double the calories and sat fat before putting them into the WW calculator as WW rounds up so you could think you were having 1.5 points but really only having 1 - so says rubadub! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭The Big Red Button


    And yet another question! :D

    Anyone have any idea how many points are in a naggin of bacardi/vodka?

    (I'm planning on having a naggin over tonight and tomorrow night, before heading out each night, and then sticking on diet coke for the rest of the night ... i.e. half a naggin each of the nights, not a full one!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭stripysocks85


    http://www.nutracheck.co.uk/calories/calories_in_alcohol/calories_in_vodka.html
    20cl of Smirnoff vodka = 44cals
    A naggin is 200cl so that's 440 cals = 6.5 WW points.

    http://www.nutracheck.co.uk/calories/calories_in_alcohol/calories_in_rum.html
    20cl of Bacardi Rum = 58cals
    Naggin = 580cals = 8.5 WW points

    Don't know if these are accurate or not - just what the site says!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Half a naggin is roughly 3 pub measures, a pub measure is 35.5ml

    I would have expected bacardi & smirnoff to be pretty much the same calories. Both are 37.5% over here and neither would have sugar in them so all the calories should be the alcohol.

    They might be quoting info from other countries, e.g. smirnoff is 40% in many other countries, and barcardi is higher too. This is almost 7% more calories than 37.5%.

    Some people calculate wrongly since they work in grams, and wrongly presume 1ml of alcohol is a gram. This is roughly the case for water, but not alcohol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭stripysocks85


    rubadub wrote: »
    Half a naggin is roughly 3 pub measures, a pub measure is 35.5ml

    I would have expected bacardi & smirnoff to be pretty much the same calories. Both are 37.5% over here and neither would have sugar in them so all the calories should be the alcohol.

    They might be quoting info from other countries, e.g. smirnoff is 40% in many other countries, and barcardi is higher too. This is almost 7% more calories than 37.5%.

    Some people calculate wrongly since they work in grams, and wrongly presume 1ml of alcohol is a gram. This is roughly the case for water, but not alcohol.
    Thanks for that. It's all so confusing!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,367 ✭✭✭✭watna


    Do any of you other WWers take spirulina? Does it count for points? I have quite low energy at the moment so am taking 2-4 tablets daily.

    It's 48KJ (NZ values are given in KJ not Kcal which confused me a lot when I first got here!) per tablet with 0.08g of sat fat which seems pretty negligble to me but I don't have my point counter with me.

    I take a multivitamin and psyllium husks capsules daily too and according to WW they are 0 points so I'm presuming the Spirulina is ok to take and not count too, as it's so small?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    watna wrote: »
    It's 48KJ (NZ values are given in KJ not Kcal which confused me a lot when I first got here!)
    You can type various phrases in to google

    like 48kilojoules in kcal
    it cops on what you want
    http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1&hl=en#hl=en&complete=1&q=48kilojoules+in+kcal&aq=f&aqi=h1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=e42e4d1ca0de56d6

    48 kilojoules = 11.4722753 kilocalories

    you can try others like
    13 stone in pounds
    13 stone in kg
    etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭ali85


    anyone know how many points are in those small plastic tubs of jam???

    Went for one this morning (no low low cheese.... ) just wondering how to point them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 I need to loose 4 stone


    I'm bamboozled???

    I weighed two quarter pounder burgers on the WW digital Points scales.

    Under heading of Mincement it gave me 10 Points. Happy Days I think! Then I found the damn wrapper and when I went off the Cal, Sat Fat method it gives me 32 Points???

    Which is right???

    Info off label:
    One burger = 269 cals, 9.1 g Sat Fat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭Melia


    I think that works out at six points each.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 I need to loose 4 stone


    ali85 wrote: »
    anyone know how many points are in those small plastic tubs of jam???

    Went for one this morning (no low low cheese.... ) just wondering how to point them

    I checked there 3.5 oz of jam = 250 cals

    Those single portions are 0.5 oz so it's about 40 cal, if that's any help...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 I need to loose 4 stone


    Melia wrote: »
    I think that works out at six points each.

    So then the Scientific Method ( Cals & Sat Fat) calculation is way off then,
    12 versus 32 Points???

    (Thanks Melia)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭Melia


    Are you using a WW calculator? I just checked using my mother's one and they're definitely coming up at six points each using the figures you gave.

    You can check here either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    I weighed two quarter pounder burgers on the WW digital Points scales.

    Under heading of Mincement it gave me 10 Points. Happy Days I think! Then I found the damn wrapper and when I went off the Cal, Sat Fat method it gives me 32 Points???

    Which is right???
    I would always go with the label, but you have to take things into account. e.g. a reading for a frozen burger per 100g will be different for a reading per burger grilled (they usually state grilled on packs). When you grill it fat will fall out and water will boil off so it will weigh less when done. A quarter lb is 113.5g but when cooked it will be less than this.

    Burgers are typically made with very fatty mince, in tesco you can get "healthy living mince" which is under 5% fat.
    Info off label:
    One burger = 269 cals, 9.1 g Sat Fat
    Is your math & calculator correct, those figures give me 6 points for 1 burger and 12 for 2 on this
    http://points.ogo.ms/
    It is always best to mulitply up your items, e.g. if you were having 10 chicken nuggets do not calculate points for 1 and then mulitply be 10. It is not such a big deal with 2 items, but if it was rounded down from 0.7points to 0.5 then you might think 10 is 5 points, when really it is 7


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 I need to loose 4 stone


    Thanks Melia & Rubadub

    It's something oddball about the WW Electronic scales. I am quiet happy to go along with the link you provided - 12 points it is then...certainly better than the 32 it was showing on the scales!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭ali85


    anyone know how many points are in a small piece of white pudding???

    I couldn't resist this morning :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    I weighed two quarter pounder burgers on the WW digital Points scales.

    Under heading of Mincement it gave me 10 Points. Happy Days I think! Then I found the damn wrapper and when I went off the Cal, Sat Fat method it gives me 32 Points?
    It's something oddball about the WW Electronic scales. I am quiet happy to go along with the link you provided - 12 points it is then...certainly better than the 32 it was showing on the scales!
    I don't understand, do you put food on and press mincemeat and it says 10points, and then can you also enter kcal & sat fat figures in the same scale? could you have entered them in wrongly? I would check it again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭The Big Red Button


    Me again :o

    Anyone know how many points are in a chicken fillet? I made dinner using 400g of chicken (four fillets.) I'm getting hugely different values for calories and saturated fat on different websites. According to the WW book, 165g chicken breast is 2.5 points - but that would mean my 400g was only 6 points, which doesn't seem right.

    Thanks for any help! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    I made dinner using 400g of chicken (four fillets.)
    I would have said 120kcal per 100g which is 7 points if there is no sat fat in it. Values can vary online as some will include skin, also if 400g of fresh chicken is baked it will weigh less when it comes out. Just check packs in supermarkets, at least one brand will have kcal values written on it per 100g

    Chicken is very low in cals, it surprises lots of people, the roll of a chicken fillet burger can have twice the calories as the chicken. I often eat half a large chicken or even a full small chicken at lunch in work. Many remark on it like sarcastically say "ahh, off your food are ye", but the reality is their cheese & chicken baguette & bag of crisps is packing FAR more calories, yet they think I am the pig.

    You can spice chicken up with stuff like garlic & chilli which has only trace calories, I used to cut it finely and add it to shredded iceberg lettuce to bulk it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Edgedinblue


    I thought each breast of chicken was around 2.5points? thats how ive been working it out! O_o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭filmifan


    Hi - I've just come back from eating what I thought was a relatively light/healthy lunch, eating at a cafe here in the west called 'The Stuffed Sandwich.' Instead of going for my usual 'Lite and Low' option (ham or turkey with low-fat mayo), I instead got a bagel with cream cheese and fresh sliced red bell pepper (no sauce or dressing), and cofee.

    I only had half the bagel (gave the other half to my hubby) and scraped off pretty much all the cream cheese that was dolloped onto either/both halves of the bagel.

    I was delighted with myself and my willpower, and thought, probably a bit too smugly for my own good - and actually believed - I was keeping well within my allotted points value for lunch (I like to keep it between 4 and 5 points, no more than that, including the meal with lighter-fat crisps or small side salad with low fat dressing on the side and coffee with teaspoon of sugar).

    Well, was I in for a shock and a half when I got home later on in the day and looked up the Points value for cream cheese - according the huge shopping guide book that you can buy at the meeting, which I realise is UK based, but am assuming it's the same for Ireland - it read (at the front of the guidebook, under Basic Foods, Dairy' 'cream cheese - 40g: 5 1/2 points. :eek:

    Then I thought to myself, 'Well, you scraped off at least 80 percent if not more of what was originally on the bagel, so surely that has to be much, much less than 40g, right?'

    To confuse matters, I then looked further on in the shopping guide, under 'Kraft' and then 'Philadelphia, full fat cream cheese' and it read: 1 tablespooon: 2 1/2 points.

    Now here's the part where I can definitely see the difference between the US and the UK/Ireland points value systems/calculation. But when I went to a WW blog based in the US, it read: cream cheese, any brand, tablsepoon: 1 point!

    So...deep breath...after all that, how many points do you reckon I ate? There's absolutely no way in hell that I had 40g worth of cream cheese, Philadelphia brand or otherwise. I'd say I had even less than a heaped tablespoon. Would I be kidding myself to say that it totalled 3 1/2 points - I'm figuring in the half a bagel and the less than full tablespoon of cream cheese?

    My meeting's not till Wednesday, but I'm stressing a bit about how much I actually ate, points-wise. Can any wise WWer out there help me?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,367 ✭✭✭✭watna


    Hmm, Just out of interest I looked at my WW book which is for Australia and New Zealand and 20g of regular cream cheese is 2 points and 25g full-fat Philadelphia is 2.5 points so there's not much difference.

    I'd go on your UK and Ireland book over looking at US points online. They do their points differently in the US as they calculate fibre as well. How many grams do you think you had? If I were you, I'd estimate how many grams and use what your book has given you for regular cream cheese, as you don't know if the place you ate used Philadelphia or not (unless you ring and ask). I always round up to so over-estimate a little.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭filmifan


    Hi Watna and thanks for replying.

    I'm going to ring the 'Stuffed Sandwich' cafe tomorrow and ask them if they use regular cream cheese or Philadelphia brand (probably standard restaurant supply cream cheese, I'd imagine).

    While I don't have any cream cheese in the fridge to find out what 40 grams worth looks like, I did put 40 grams' worth of a spreadable Laughing Cow cheese triangle (17.5 grams per triangle) on my scale - just to see or 'eyeball' what 40 grams worth of a spreadable cheese of any sort would actually look like, and there's no way that I had even a fraction of that much cream cheese (Philly brand or otherwise) on my half-bagel. I'd be amazed if it was even 20 grams' worth, but, like you, I tend to round up and overestimate a wee bit, rather than downgrade the points values of something I'm not sure about, just to be on the safe side.

    I was chatting to my hubby about this (he's sick to death of this whole subject by this stage, and I've probably put him off bagels with cream cheese for life, LOL). but he reckons that Philadelphia brand cream cheese is probably lighter because it's air-whipped or some such, whereas regular cream cheese, like you'd get in a New York style cheese cake, is very heavy, very dense (and very delicious...but let's not go there), so yeah, I can see why the UK shopping guide has two different/separate listings, even though they're both cream cheeses.

    What I've put on my tracker sheet - for better or for worse - is 2 points for the half bagel and 2 points for the cream cheese/spread thingie, and 1/2 point for the coffee. Now I'm thinking I should just round it up to an even 5 points, and not think any more about it until I have to, come Wednesday at the weigh-in.

    Thanks for your help. This is a great thread, by the way. I think it's a great supplement/addition to the WW message boards, as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭Melia


    I think you're getting a bit too caught up! Honestly, one or two points either way over a week won't affect your weigh-in. I wouldn't stress.

    I'd say 4.5 points for the half bagel, scraping of cream cheese and coffee is about right, unless the bagel was massive.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    filmifan wrote: »
    I'm going to ring the 'Stuffed Sandwich' cafe tomorrow and ask them if they use regular cream cheese or Philadelphia brand.
    Wayyy too much worrying. I expect the stress you are giving yourself is a lot worse for you than a few miserable calories here and there. If you saw what I eat in the local "all you can eat" chinese buffet you would probably faint!


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