David Curran found guilty of Polish mens murder

sesna · 08-05-2010 07:54PM

shampoosuicide wrote: »

it's not a horrible attitude. tell it to that guy's family. http://www.rte.ie/player/#v=1072327 1:15 minutes in.

i got mugged when i was very young by one dangerous ****er. i got over it, i learned a lesson, i'm still here today. i don't think 'oh why didn't someone help me?' if they did, they'd have been a marked man.

Yes it is to apply that to every situation without question. Whatever keeps you safe.

Einhard · 08-05-2010 08:06PM

yermandan wrote: »

Slightly off topic but is it true that the murder rate tripled in the year after we got rid of capital punishment in this country? (1990 iirc)

Never heard of that myself. Anyway, a capital option does absolutely nothing to reduce the murder rate in a jurisdiction. The states with the death penalty in America generally have a murder rate that's equal, if not higher, than states that opt for life without parole. Indeed, there's evidence to suggest that it can actually lead to an increase in the number of killings per incident, because those who may have intended to target only one individual, know they face the death penalty if caught, and feel they have nothing to lose by killing any potential witnesses too.

sassychick · 08-05-2010 08:19PM

In a word these two pricks are nutin but scumbags...Life my ass irish justice system is ****e curran will be out in 10 years to live a normal life while the familys of these polish lads have a life of pain over losing there loved ones:mad::(

Run_to_da_hills · 08-05-2010 11:22PM

The more I think of it, Davit Curren has all the hallmarks of a serial killer, I honestly don't think he should see the light of day again.

sesna · 08-05-2010 11:30PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The more I think of it, Davit Curren has all the hallmarks of a serial killer, I honestly don't think he should see the light of day again.

Yet some on here think we would be better served analysing what went wrong for this poor chap - social deprivation, no outlets for him, not held enough as a child.

The convicted man, wasn't even involved in the altercation, yet travelled quite a distance, armed himself with a lethal weapon and murdered two men, over what appeared to be just some Argie-Bargie outside a take-away at 7pm on a Saturday evening.

He was clear, purposefull and precise, he assassinated the two guys, there was no wounding, straight stabbing into their brains. Chilling.

Amazing that you need a licence to drive or have a TV but anyone is allowed to breed these feral brats. All satellite telly and Dutch Gold but of course society is to blame as always

ch750536 · 09-05-2010 09:06AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Throwing away the keys for good should make scumbags think twice of carrying out such atrocities.

you're assuming he thought.

bonzos · 09-05-2010 11:05AM

The bottom line is that little scumbag will spend the next 10 years behind bars costing us(taxpayers) a fortune...he will probabally get out recieve SW have a scatter of children and get a free house, there is a very strong case for the death pen when you look at (1) the crime (2)cost of keeping him in prison (3) future cost of maintaining the scumbag ....he is no benifit to the world

mikom · 09-05-2010 12:10PM

sesna wrote: »

Ah yes, 90 years of history show exactly that...What a great little country..."She'd got several blasts, she'd twenty-seven masts
And we called her the Irish Rover"

Ukraine hit a raw nerve for ya there sesna?

Kirnsy · 09-05-2010 01:27PM

sesna wrote: »

Ah yes, 90 years of history show exactly that...What a great little country..."She'd got several blasts, she'd twenty-seven masts
And we called her the Irish Rover"

Because we only have 90 years of history of course.:rolleyes:

Like I said every country has its bad eggs and yours (whereever it may be) is no different. Nor is Irealand.

Run_to_da_hills · 09-05-2010 01:33PM

bonzos wrote: »

The bottom line is that little scumbag will spend the next 10 years behind bars costing us(taxpayers) a fortune...he will probabally get out recieve SW have a scatter of children and get a free house, there is a very strong case for the death pen when you look at (1) the crime (2)cost of keeping him in prison (3) future cost of maintaining the scumbag ....he is no benifit to the world

The Death penalty would probably cost more than his combined life time locked up with legal fees etc unless its carried out Chinese style.

Indubitable · 09-05-2010 01:36PM

sesna wrote: »

I wasnt aware of any Lithanians, Latvians or Estonian immigrant population being involved in violent crimes such as Curran's, were you ? Why target them?

murder rate per 100,000 people by country:
Ukraine: 7.04
Lithuania: 8.13
Estonia: 7
Georgia: 7.29
Latvia: 6.47

Ireland: 1.59

sesna · 09-05-2010 01:38PM

kingofthe3rdyrs wrote: »

murder rate per 100,000 people by country:
Ukraine: 7.04
Lithuania: 8.13
Estonia: 7
Georgia: 7.29
Latvia: 6.47

Ireland: 1.59

You make my point.

luap_42 · 11-05-2010 12:50AM

sesna wrote: »

You make my point.

Mate. How many times you gonna change sides of your "argument(s)"?

And what part of Kerry are you from anyway?

Dublindude69 · 11-05-2010 03:17PM

I wonder who is going to be found guilty of infectingDavid Curran with aids in prison.

ihope · 12-05-2010 09:53PM

Kevin Myers: 'It is obscene that these two teenage she-thugs are free'

HERE we go again: two good men are dead and two of the participants in the events of the night that brought Mariusz Szwajkos and Pawel Kalite to their terrible end in Drimnagh two years ago have gone free.
Those culprits are both teenage girls. Subtract their contribution to that terrible evening and our two Polish visitors might be alive and well, at home with their loved ones. Despite garda wishes on this matter, the two girls -- who could at least have been charged with common assault -- have been allowed to go free. And the message to teenage she-thugs elsewhere must therefore be that different rules apply to them.

full story at : http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/kevin-myers-it-is-obscene-that-these-two-teenage-shethugs-are-free-2176098.html

PK2008 · 12-05-2010 10:33PM

ihope wrote: »

Kevin Myers: 'It is obscene that these two teenage she-thugs are free'

HERE we go again: two good men are dead and two of the participants in the events of the night that brought Mariusz Szwajkos and Pawel Kalite to their terrible end in Drimnagh two years ago have gone free.
Those culprits are both teenage girls. Subtract their contribution to that terrible evening and our two Polish visitors might be alive and well, at home with their loved ones. Despite garda wishes on this matter, the two girls -- who could at least have been charged with common assault -- have been allowed to go free. And the message to teenage she-thugs elsewhere must therefore be that different rules apply to them.

full story at : http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/kevin-myers-it-is-obscene-that-these-two-teenage-shethugs-are-free-2176098.html

How can this be true?

They instigate the horrific terrorism of an innocent man which ultimately leads to his death and they just walk free??

Repugnant

Carlos_Ray · 12-05-2010 10:37PM

Filthy dirty scum. The government should introduce "late abortions" for the filth that killed these two men ( and I include those scanger girls that got away with murder simply because they are female). That would satisfy the anti death penalty brigade. We'll just call it late abortion.

Kevin Myers is totally correct. Where are all the feminists when murderous women get way with things like this??? Are they campaigning for them to be treated the same as their male counterparts?? Of course not, they're complaining about a crisp advert. imbeciles.

As for the sentences, they should be free for their 21st Birthday celebrations knowing our joke of a legal system.

TheTMO · 12-05-2010 10:45PM

PK2008 wrote: »

How can this be true?

They instigate the horrific terrorism of an innocent man which ultimately leads to his death and they just walk free??

Repugnant

Imagine if even 10% of the public outcry over the evil headshops was directed at this. They'd be locked up by night and rightly so. People need to get their priorities straight. Where the hell is public outcry over these two thugs walking free? Probably more dangerous to the public's health than any smoke product.

I wish Joe Duffy would dedicate a whole show to these two girls getting off scot free.

WindSock · 12-05-2010 10:55PM

'Where were the feminists when this was going on last week'? Well, I was here posting that I hoped the girls that started the mess got something too. Where were all of the people that were complaining about the feminists? Did they do anything? Did Kevin Myers? Or is it up to us superhero feminists to fix everything.

whadabouchasir · 12-05-2010 10:56PM

Well according to Nationmaster:http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_pri_fem-crime-prisoners-female
only 4.4% of the toatal prisoners in the world are female.It just seems to be the norm that women get away with things that Men just wouldn't,and even if they are found guilty the punishment is much less severe.

PK2008 · 12-05-2010 11:04PM

Ok feminist theory aside, how the hell have these 2 not been arrested for assault at the very least?

Didnt one of them hit him with a bottle, surely thats assault with a weapon???

There was witnesses FFS.

youcrazyjesus! · 14-05-2010 01:20AM

Well done Kevin Myers. He's 100% right on this subject. The hypocrisy of some of these overfed State-kept wasters is breathtaking sometimes.

youcrazyjesus! · 14-05-2010 01:22AM

PK2008 wrote: »

Ok feminist theory aside, how the hell have these 2 not been arrested for assault at the very least?

Didnt one of them hit him with a bottle, surely thats assault with a weapon???

There was witnesses FFS.

The Gardaí wanted to prosecute these c#@ts but the DPP in their infinite wisdom decided against. They would have been prosecuted had they been young boys imo. You may have had 4 people being lumped into the joint enterprise murder charge instead of the 2 who were, it actually makes far more sense it should have been 4 rather than 2.

bernardo mac · 14-05-2010 04:03AM

They must not be let get away with the role they played in fuelling the murderous scenario.Too often is such criminal behavior ignored.This matter must be revisited.Anti social behaviour is a pastime with many of these mindless,directionless,soon-to-become state assisted breeders of the next generation of mouthy,mindless,aggressive dope headed wasters,unless we have a bad old fashioned, social cleansing war scenario.If the law or the state can't fix so be it.Let there be wipe out!:(

Fukuyama · 14-05-2010 07:19AM

Hank_Jones wrote: »

I think you mean bigots.

Also, g'won the northside.

Southsider: What separates us from the animals??

Guy: What?

Southsider: The Liffy!!

MagicSean · 14-05-2010 08:16AM

PK2008 wrote: »

Ok feminist theory aside, how the hell have these 2 not been arrested for assault at the very least?

Didnt one of them hit him with a bottle, surely thats assault with a weapon???

There was witnesses FFS.

Unfortunately Irish law still considers women to be 15th century maidens. You merely have to look at the sex crime law in which women cannot be prosecuted for rape or for underage sex.

magotch07 · 14-05-2010 09:37AM

youcrazyjesus! wrote: »

Well done Kevin Myers. He's 100% right on this subject. The hypocrisy of some of these overfed State-kept wasters is breathtaking sometimes.

normally i cant stand myers but this time he is completely 100% right....women get away with criminal acts why because they are women

Chairman Meow · 14-05-2010 10:04AM

whadabouchasir wrote: »

Well according to Nationmaster:http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_pri_fem-crime-prisoners-female
only 4.4% of the toatal prisoners in the world are female.It just seems to be the norm that women get away with things that Men just wouldn't,and even if they are found guilty the punishment is much less severe.

Fore further evidence that women get away with stuff men wouldnt, look at the story yesterday in the Indo of the Roma mother who beat her 3 year old to death, and is looking at a suspended sentence??

Mr Vaughan Buckley, who asked that his client be given a suspended sentence, said she accepted that she "flipped" on the night of the attack but she hadn't planned to do so and she didn't want to kill her child.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/girl-3-died-in-hospital-after-mother-flipped-and-beat-her-2177901.html

Wether she gets it or not, could you imagine a man getting a suspended sentence for beating a kid to death? There wouldnt even be a mention of it. Equality me arse.

sesna · 14-05-2010 10:07AM

He's right about alot of things, except when he's off on one of his obviously provocative rants.

mikom · 14-05-2010 10:10AM

sesna wrote: »

He's right about alot of things, except when he's off in he is off on one of his obviously provocative rants.

He's off in???
For his tea is it?

David Curran found guilty of Polish mens murder

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