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The Iceland Volcano Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    Pics have been posted in After Hours of what's claimed to be the plume visible from western Ireland:

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=111051&d=1271451328

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=111053&d=1271451508

    (photos from kpatrick)

    It sure looks a bit suspect...if it's not the plume it's doing a good job of looking like one.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Ok!! What just happened I went to look at the moon there now and it ain't there did it move?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭Deep Easterly


    LookingFor wrote: »
    Pics have been posted in After Hours of what's claimed to be the plume visible from western Ireland:

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=111051&d=1271451328

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=111053&d=1271451508

    (photos from kpatrick)

    It sure looks a bit suspect...if it's not the plume it's doing a good job of looking like one.

    The sky was very much like that this evening even here, but nothing out of the ordinary at all under these hazy conditions. If there was a bit of cloud it would have been a spectacular sunset.

    Edit: Big surge now on the cam http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-thorolfsfelli/


  • Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭blank_screen


    dark ash erupting at the moment... http://www.vodafone.is/eldgos


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    "looking for"-nice shots of a contrail there,that aircraft flewover Castlebar around 7.55pm,contrail was there for ages drifting slightly southwards.where was the location of the photos?had to been Westport or somewhere like that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    owenc wrote: »
    Ok!! What just happened I went to look at the moon there now and it ain't there did it move?


    Cloud maybe???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Squeaksoutloud


    LookingFor wrote: »
    Pics have been posted in After Hours of what's claimed to be the plume visible from western Ireland:

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=111051&d=1271451328

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=111053&d=1271451508

    (photos from kpatrick)

    It sure looks a bit suspect...if it's not the plume it's doing a good job of looking like one.

    Yeah I saw that from Dublin and was intrigued. It was in the north west also...can't possibly be it though I never saw cloud like it before!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭rc28


    The sky was very much like that this evening even here, but nothing out of the ordinary at all under these hazy conditions. If there was a bit of cloud it would have been a spectacular sunset.

    That's just a plane contrail in the pic from the west.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Wind direction seems to have changed in the last hour. This plume seems to be going higher than before too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭rc28


    Massive clouds of ash belching out again - v good webcam here http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-thorolfsfelli/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭force eleven


    http://www.gmes-atmosphere.eu/news/volcanic_ash/iceland_plume_10_5km_hires.gif

    Here's a forecast animation for the next few days... gas masks anyone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    Alas Fuerteventura isn't happening tomorrow thanks to Mount Buzzkill. I've just booked the same flights for next week and waiting to hear if accommodation can be rescheduled to that week as well. Flights were €50 more but that wouldn't bother me so much if I get away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭Deep Easterly


    rc28 wrote: »
    That's just a plane contrail in the pic from the west.

    I'm wide, but no other clouds visible this evening, which would have enhanced the sunset. The sky is just hazy. I really doubt it has anything to do with the plume at the moment.


    New eruption looking quite serious now!:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭rc28


    I'm wide, but no other clouds visible this evening, which would have enhanced the sunset. The sky is just hazy. I really doubt it has anything to do with the plume at the moment.
    I know it doesn't - I was just pointing out that the 'thing' in the picture was just an aeroplane contrail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭Deep Easterly


    rc28 wrote: »
    I know it doesn't - I was just pointing out that the 'thing' in the picture was just an aeroplane contrail.

    Ok ok! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    Wind direction seems to have changed in the last hour. This plume seems to be going higher than before too.

    The met office in iceland was forecasting the winds to change to a northerly direction this eve. (Maybe the start of that change in airflow predicted in the models).


  • Registered Users Posts: 197 ✭✭pp_me


    http://www.daylightmap.com/index.php

    why isnt it dark there yet?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Cloud maybe???

    No it's spearing now from the back of the tree


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Its quite funny looking at the volcanic gas trail on rtes website, its everywhere but ireland, its wrapped around the edges of ireland but not going over the island .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭rc28


    http://www.ruv.is/frett/bolstrar-i-30-thus-feta-haed-myndir
    I think this is reporting the fresh eruption.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭red menace


    Google translate mangles it quite badly

    Bólstrar to 30 thousand. feet-photos

    Gosmökkurinn seen all over.
    Published over Eyjafjallajökull and now widely seen bólstrar. Coast Guard aircraft, TF-SIF was flying eftirlitsflug the fifth time today. Then observed from bólstrar gosstöðvunum which reached up to 30 thousand feet. Wind in the region was vigorous, to 19 thousand feet, he was about 85 to 90 knots, equivalent to 167 km / hr.
    About 50 cm rise in water surface at the Old Bridge was the Markarfljót sexleytið today. Gígjökli came spewing out of the third period. Farmers Fljotsdal, innermost farm in Fljótshlíð, said that vomited was small. Expected from vatnsspýjum Gígjökli during the eruption time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Is this latest eruption bigger than any of the previous day or is it the same?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    Hard to say I think. I think weather was so bad earlier it made observations difficult.

    Ejections to 30000 ft would be higher than what was reported earlier today, however (seemed to suggest ejections up to the 18-24k ft range if I recall right).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    The UK met office has a cool little google map showing dust samplings across the UK:

    http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2010/volcano/dustobs.html

    Also have a blog recording updates etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭ronnie3585


    Some nice pics
    e01_23019981.jpg

    e07_23020489.jpg

    e09_22816003.jpg

    e15_22816019.jpg

    e18_23024127.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,958 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    amazing photos. thanks for posting them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Popoutman


    Looks like I'm not getting home for the weekend. This sucks!
    I can't argue with the airlines' choices, but until Monday...
    Ah well, now to find a drycleaners/laundrette to prepare for the week ahead.

    Bugger!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭Deep Easterly


    ronnie3585 wrote: »
    Some nice pics
    e01_23019981.jpg

    Great snaps!

    Is it me, or does those 3 plumes look like 3 rats springing into the sky?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭John mac


    LookingFor wrote: »
    Pics have been posted in After Hours of what's claimed to be the plume visible from western Ireland:

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=111051&d=1271451328

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=111053&d=1271451508

    (photos from kpatrick)

    It sure looks a bit suspect...if it's not the plume it's doing a good job of looking like one.


    that's the same con trail I posted earlier!

    (here)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭John mac


    Great snaps!

    Is it me, or does those 3 plumes look like 3 rats springing into the sky?

    meerkats or ferrets maybe .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,958 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Great snaps!

    Is it me, or does those 3 plumes look like 3 rats springing into the sky?

    i think it is just you:p this could well be to do with the fact Galway is full of vermin:p


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Another live feed and images here:

    http://www.vodafone.is/eldgos/en


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    UK airspace closed til 7pm. Irish airspace reclosed til 6pm, no transatlantic flights even.

    Latest VAAC forecasts show a disimprovement in the situation. The ash risk area has grown thanks to the eruptions yesterday which went higher into the atmosphere.

    Also, there's a new risk area encroaching from the north as the winds turn northerly. In the latest VAAC you can see how it's closing the gap with the old one pretty quickly as winds push down from the north.

    http://metoffice.com/aviation/vaac/data/VAG_1271483349.png

    However it's also worth noting that this forecast isn't quite as bad as the one issued at midnight which was the basis for these new closures. But I think it's unlikely to effectively change the situation except perhaps to allow scottish airspace to reopen...but if the area to the north keeps growing, that window of opportunity could be brief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    Another update from UK, ban extended to 1am Sunday. Might be a window of opportunity later for NI/Scotland for coordinated flights, but they're not optimistic.
    The volcanic ash cloud from Iceland is moving around and changing shape. Based on the latest information from the Met Office, NATS advises that the restrictions currently in place across UK controlled airspace will remain in place until at least 0100 (UK time) tomorrow, Sunday 18 April.

    We are looking for opportunities when the ash cloud moves sufficiently for us to make some airspace available within Scotland and Northern Ireland, which may enable some domestic flights to operate under individual coordination with ATC; we will be coordinating this closely with airlines and airports. It is most unlikely that many flights will operate today and anyone hoping to travel should contact their airline before travelling to the airport.

    We will continue to monitor Met Office information and review our arrangements in line with that. We will advise further arrangements at approximately 1500 (UK time).


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,467 Mod ✭✭✭✭mickger844posts


    hellboy99 wrote: »
    Another live feed and images here:

    http://www.vodafone.is/eldgos/en

    Looking at the latest live feed there is no let up in the intensity of the eruptions. Its a big dirty mess coming from the Volcano.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    What's that plane doing in the middle of the ash zone? :eek:

    111074.jpg

    Oh, wait :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭blobbie


    Not sure if this has been posted before but

    Tha'r she blows http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-thorolfsfelli/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    blobbie wrote: »
    Not sure if this has been posted before but

    Tha'r she blows http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-thorolfsfelli/

    Wow, that's a big cloud.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭DWCommuter


    unkel wrote: »
    What's that plane doing in the middle of the ash zone? :eek:

    111074.jpg

    Oh, wait :)

    Its not a jet engined plane.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Clouds have cleared to give a nice view on this webcam:

    http://www.vodafone.is/eldgos/en


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    The latest VAAC forecast chart mentions that the ash is 58% SiO2 (ie. silica, or basically glass). It's formed as the glacial ice rapidly cools and crystallises the molten rock.

    Also, interesting to note that they state there's no significant risk above FL350 (35,000ft). Germany were allowing some planes to overfly their airspace at sufficiently high altitudes, so we may see the odd plane pop up on radar throughout the weekend.

    http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviation/vaac/data/VAG_1271483349.png

    Here's an interesting link

    http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2010/volcano.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


    111081.JPG


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    redsunset wrote: »

    You have a very apt username! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Can someone give me the scientific explanation as to why the cloud is lingering over Europe, and why this hasn't happened before in the past 50 years?

    What would it take to disperse the cloud, and when is this likely to happen?

    Could this continue into May?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,981 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    The cars in Cork are covered in a film of dust.
    Not sure if it's from the volcano or not, my bet is it is!


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,152 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    The cars in Cork are covered in a film of dust.
    Not sure if it's from the volcano or not, my bet is it is!

    Well don't ask Met E - they'll tell you as far as they're concerned, it's not!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    Furet wrote: »
    Can someone give me the scientific explanation as to why the cloud is lingering over Europe, and why this hasn't happened before in the past 50 years?

    What would it take to disperse the cloud, and when is this likely to happen?

    Could this continue into May?

    Not a scientist but it's down to the weather. Airflow is dragging the ash from Iceland down over Europe. The Airflow is also fairly plodding so it's just circulating around.

    Hasn't happened in the past 50 years partially at least because this volcano hasn't erupted like this in that time, AFAIK.

    A change in weather, stronger airflow over Europe and a stop to the ash production (either because the volcano stops or the wind in Iceland starts blowing it away from Europe), should eventually disperse it, but I'm not sure how long that takes...

    Side note: webcam shows some fairly big ash eruptions now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    The Cork dust could well be volcanic. The dust risk area has swung right up over the south of Ireland now per the VAAC advisory. That doesn't mean necessarily there's enough dust there for there to be deposits, but it's possible.

    In Britain the Met Office has report settling of thin ash in the Thames Valley.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


    Thousands grounded until next week

    Volcanic cloud has spread to much of mainland Europe


    dublin_indo_555187t.jpg
    People queue at Dublin Airport yesterday where hundreds of flights were cancelled due to volcanic ash



    By Jason O'Brien

    Saturday April 17 2010

    HUNDREDS of thousands of stranded air passengers who hoped for lift-off this weekend will remain grounded until next week at the earliest as the plume of volcanic ash shut down most of European airspace yesterday.
    Ryanair last night cancelled a further 400 flights into and out of the country, with the no-frills airline grounding its Irish fleet until Monday lunchtime at the earliest.
    The airline's chief executive Michael O'Leary described the situation as "unprecedented".

    Aer Lingus will not be flying anywhere in Europe from Ireland ahead of a further review of the situation at lunchtime today.
    However, Met Eireann is not predicting a significant improvement in conditions so that window is likely to be extended.
    More than 17,000 flights across Europe were grounded yesterday in what has become the biggest disruption to air travel since the Twin Tower terrorism attacks.

    Some 100,000 travellers to and from Ireland have been inconvenienced in the first two days of the travel chaos, with just 11 of the 460 flights scheduled to arrive or depart Dublin Airport getting the green light yesterday.

    And with the ash cloud predicted to hold steady above much of the UK and southern Ireland, the problem is set to continue.
    "All the Ryanair flights into and out of Ireland, the UK, Scandinavia and the north European coastline are cancelled until 1300 hours or lunchtime on Monday," Mr O'Leary said last night.

    "That is because all the weather indications show that this volcanic ash is going to continue to be blown down across the UK, across Ireland, and it's not going to be safe."

    Some Aer Lingus transatlantic flights did fly from Dublin yesterday with a single flight leaving Shannon, but there were no commercial flights whatsoever from Cork.

    The Irish Aviation Authority re-opened Irish airspace -- apart from a small pocket off the south coast -- at 10am yesterday.
    But with the cloud spreading to cover the UK and much of mainland Europe it made little practical difference with only a limited number of domestic flights.

    The IAA last night closed Cork, Kerry and Waterford airports from 9pm until 11am today as the ash cloud moved from the south of Ireland back towards the south coast. Shannon was closed from 4am today until 10am.
    All other airports remain open but routes to the UK, continental Europe and the south of Spain were closed until further notice.

    Risk
    "The indications are that the ash cloud will present a serious risk to flights in and out of Cork, Waterford and Kerry Airports and Shannon Airport to a lesser degree. As a result we have no alternative but to impose these restrictions," Philip Hughes from the IAA said last night.

    "Irish airports and Irish airspace, with the exception of a block off the south coast, have been operating without restrictions since 10am.
    "However, airlines were unable to capitalise on this arrangement because of the severe restrictions in UK and European airspace."
    The Government's Taskforce on Emergency Planning also met yesterday to discuss the situation.

    According to advice from Met Eireann, the Environmental Protection Agency and the Department of Health, there are no air quality, public health or environmental concerns.

    Met Eireann has predicted the volcanic ash in the upper atmosphere is likely to largely miss Ireland until tomorrow at the earliest.

    Forecaster Evelyn Cusack said an area of high pressure was keeping the plume from settling directly over the country, and this is expected to remain the case until tomorrow at least, with cooler weather moving in on Monday and Tuesday. However, some rain tomorrow could see the ash falling to the ground.

    Transport Minister Noel Dempsey said the Department of Health's reassurances on there being no health implications were "very solidly based".

    There were reports of unusual dust deposits in many parts of the west and the northwest yesterday afternoon, but Met Eireann said it was unlikely to be volcanic ash.
    The prevailing winds are expected to return to their usual direction blowing from the southwest on Wednesday, a feature which is expected to take the plume away from Ireland.

    "We can see an end in sight to it by the middle of next week," Ms Cusack said. The volcano continued to erupt yesterday, although rain predicted for Iceland is expected to lessen the impact of new emissions.
    The Taoiseach last night said it was impossible for Ireland to have a plan to cope with an act of nature as big as the ash cloud, and that the government would be guided by aviation and meteorology experts.
    "These are acts of nature that are taking place -- what we have to try and make sure and do is not compromise aviation safety," he said.

    Mr Cowen flew into Cork Airport on an Air Corps helicopter yesterday. He said the Government would have to adopt a wait-and-see approach.
    Galway airport re-opened yesterday afternoon, while only a limited domestic flights service is running at Knock airport.
    Aer Arann operated a limited service on domestic routes between Dublin, Derry, Galway, Sligo, Donegal and Knock.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭metrovelvet


    Is there any possibility this could trigger an erruption in a bigger volcano?


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