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Post Your Gold Making tips here + a few of my guides

  • 16-02-2010 2:50pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭


    Firstly mining,

    http://www.wowhead.com/?zone=3711 - Sholzar basin.

    This place is great for mining because of its circle map layout,
    SholazarBasin+mining.jpg

    Many people fly around mining here but if you come here at off peak times you could get stacks and stacks of titanium ore if your lucky,



    Another great quick money maker is if you are into PvP, you can buy epic uncut gems in Org at the PvP vendor and get a JC to cut them into what ever is selling for most,
    epicgemhonor.jpg



    more to come just looking at the layout


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  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭Magaa


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,675 ✭✭✭TechnoPool


    the time it takes to farm 10k honor, you can make more from doing daily's than the price you could get for an epic gem.


  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭Magaa


    TechnoPool wrote: »
    the time it takes to farm 10k honor, you can make more from doing daily's than the price you could get for an epic gem.

    yep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,723 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    BUT, if you already have 10k honor....

    What kinda gold am I looking at here? What other mats would I need?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,675 ✭✭✭TechnoPool


    200-250 per rub cut, depends on the realm


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  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭Magaa


    Overheal wrote: »
    BUT, if you already have 10k honor....

    What kinda gold am I looking at here? What other mats would I need?


    depends on your realm price Bold Cardinal Ruby (20 str) sell for about 300 gold on my realm

    all you need is a Cardinal Ruby and an JC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,723 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Nah. I wouldn't do it for that. I'd prefer to keep my honor for something I can use myself. For a second there I though you were talking at least 4 digits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭Columc


    Also doing the odd Wintergrasp here and there would give a nice increase in HP to spend on gems.

    My money tips are im a mine/JC so just go around the basin getting nodes and selling the gems. never seem to be low on money.

    But with the amounts of close porximity daily quests you will never be without gold


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,675 ✭✭✭TechnoPool


    there's plenty of ways to make easy money.


    FOR EXAMPLE:


    i did this a week or two ago. Bronze was selling for around 28g a stack, but copper was only 8g and tin was 12g so 20g to make 2 stacks of bronze, which netted me around 34g profit per. Sold around 60 stacks of bronze doing this then i got bored.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    Herbalism/Alchemy

    Frost Lotus sell for at least 60g, sometimes 75g+ and I can pick up roughly 10 per hour farming herbs. Wintergrasp is handy as you'll sometimes get straight up Frost Lotus spawns.

    If you're specialised Elixir Master on your Alchemist then 10 x Frost lotus (plus the other herbs that usually sell for crap on their own) = at least 20 x Flasks of whatever, selling for at least 30g each and sometimes a lot more, depending on your server. If elixir mastery procs you can get a shed load of flasks more than you bargained for. Bit of a gamble as to if it's worth making flasks at all to sell or just sell the herbs on their own, just keep an eye on the AH before you make your choice.

    Eternal Life (which drops from the herbing) selling for around 15 to 30g per eternal and you'll end up with roughly 15 to 20 eternals per hour of farming.

    Anyway, with all the herbs/eternals and/or flasks you'll be looking to at least 1,000g per hour of just flying around picking herbs. If you gamble on making flasks and get a few lucky elixir mastery procs, that amount of gold can easily double but at least you'll end up with roughly the same amount of gold if you don't get any procs.

    Mining is a bit hit and miss at times as ore/bar prices flucuate too much due to the amount of people constantly undercutting each other all the time. With flasks at least, you need to have gone through a bit of a process to get elixir mastery (can be solo'd easily though if you know what you're doing) and hence not as many gold farmers or whatever go to the trouble, they just usually sell raw mats and ore/bars are the easiest thing to sell for little effort.

    One thing I will say about ores is that Mithril Ore is both the easiest to farm and sells for the highest price when converted to bars for the smallest effort required. Most servers will probably sell stacks of Mithril Bars for 100g at least. Takes about 10 minutes to get about 40 Mithril ore just doing a quick run around the Badlands, which is by far the best place to farm for it, small area, circular, straight run around, easy stuff.
    You'll also find fools selling stacks of Mithril Ore for like 20 or 30g, just buy it, convert to bars and put back up on the AH for 100g+

    Just don't ever flood the AH with stuff, take your time, don't put too much up at the same time.

    Most big guilds will buy full 20 stacks of Flasks on raidnights, Monday, Wednesday and Friday seem the best days to sell full stacks of Flasks, usually sell within the hour of you putting them up. Saves all the hassle of splitting stacks to sell on their own.

    That's how I make my gold anyway, that and cutting the most wanted gems with JC from prospecting whatever ore I'm arsed to mine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭2 Espressi


    TechnoPool wrote: »
    i did this a week or two ago. Bronze was selling for around 28g a stack, but copper was only 8g and tin was 12g so 20g to make 2 stacks of bronze, which netted me around 34g profit per. Sold around 60 stacks of bronze doing this then i got bored.
    I love it when that happens, managed to level a lot of my mining that way.

    We talking endgame, or levelling here?

    What I've found while levelling (which I seem to do a lot of...)

    Loot everything.

    Install crapaway/selljunk for vendoring greys automatically.

    Only vendor greys. Auction everything else.


    Gathering profs>>Crafting professions. It's cheaper to buy an item than it is to level your skill to the point where you can make it. And the best levelling gear is usually in dungeons anyways, so why buy it in the first place?

    Consider cloth prices before levelling First Aid, bandages rarely sell as well as the raw mats. Same goes for Cooking.

    Hit Refresh before posting items to get the most current price.

    Post auctions on Friday, as prices are higher over the weekend.

    The AH is for selling, not shopping. Avoid neutral/goblin auction houses

    Create a bank alt. Every mail you send them has 12 storage slots, and mail can be returned for free. So it's cheaper than bank slots.

    Greed on everything in instances. Nobody likes a ninja, but why pass up the chance for profit?

    Only buy what you really need. Things like enchants, gems, scopes are usually pointless, as you'll replace gear before you get any value out of them. Only buy those spells/talents from your class trainer that are relevant for your spec.


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    Dont forget RE Gems from honor. 30 Stone Keeper Shards are 2k honor....

    ... I had almost 2000 before i realised this...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    I'd agree with most of your stuff 2 Espressi, but there's a couple of things I'd do differently myself
    2 Espressi wrote:
    Gathering profs>>Crafting professions. It's cheaper to buy an item than it is to level your skill to the point where you can make it. And the best levelling gear is usually in dungeons anyways, so why buy it in the first place?
    When levelling this is true, but at max level crafting professions are far better at letting you control markets than gathering ones. Having a mix of both accross your various chars works best.
    2 Espressi wrote: »
    Post auctions on Friday, as prices are higher over the weekend.
    That depends on the goods, some prices go up and some go way down. The important thing though is to spend a few weeks monitoring the AH and paying attention to trends like this.
    2 Espressi wrote:
    The AH is for selling, not shopping.
    If you mean avoid impulse buying I'd agree, but actual 'trading' is the only true way to make bucketloads of gold. Finding one or more markets and controlling them can take time to set up, but once done provides more cash than anything else.
    2 Espressi wrote:
    Create a bank alt. Every mail you send them has 12 storage slots, and mail can be returned for free. So it's cheaper than bank slots.
    Definitely, levelling without one is headwrecking as your bags/bank will just be crammed all of the time. Best part is, there doesn't actually seem to be a limit to the amount of mails you can have in your mailbox. Even if it says your mailbox is full (usually the case on my bank alt), you can still send stuff and it'll sit there until you clear the mailbox out again, then reappear just after.
    Nehexak wrote:
    Most big guilds will buy full 20 stacks of Flasks on raidnights, Monday, Wednesday and Friday seem the best days to sell full stacks of Flasks, usually sell within the hour of you putting them up. Saves all the hassle of splitting stacks to sell on their own.
    You'd be better off getting something like Auctioneer which will do the splitting/batch posting for you, it'll save you a ridiculous amount of time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭Magaa


    hey aleast my thread hasent turned into a flame fest directed at me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    Easiest way to make gold in this game (At least for me) is alchemy. I've got transmute spec on 3 characters (2 of which are lvl 70's). I transmute blue gems (Mats cost about 25g on my server for the transmute) and in a typical week i get roughly... 25-30 gems, they sell for about 200-240g each (30stam). Netting me roughly 5k a week. I've been doing this for about... 3 or 4 months now.. so yeah.... im not short of gold :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭2 Espressi


    wrote:
    If you mean avoid impulse buying I'd agree, but actual 'trading' is the only true way to make bucketloads of gold. Finding one or more markets and controlling them can take time to set up, but once done provides more cash than anything else.
    I don't think I'd be doing that while levelling, though I'm looking forward to trying it out at 80. Should be pretty doable with a small pop realm like Sunstrider though. Same for the crafting profs. There's a load of functionality in Auctioneer I haven't explored yet, but it's on the To Do list...

    I wonder could you set up an alt to play the AH, or use your bank alt, to buy in bulk and resell a little higher, just enough to covers fees and a small profit? I know Bliz were against this in te past, but they've softened their stance of late.


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    Magill wrote: »
    Easiest way to make gold in this game (At least for me) is alchemy. I've got transmute spec on 3 characters (2 of which are lvl 70's). I transmute blue gems (Mats cost about 25g on my server for the transmute) and in a typical week i get roughly... 25-30 gems, they sell for about 200-240g each (30stam). Netting me roughly 5k a week. I've been doing this for about... 3 or 4 months now.. so yeah.... im not short of gold :)

    Hmm I have been making Ametrines / Dreadstones with my alt. Must look at the blue gems again.

    Do you get them cut before you post them up (i think cuts on our server are about 10G)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    I think it really depends on the server, the mats for the blue gem is the cheapest on mine and sell for nearly as much as ruby's. It helps that one of my chars has JC so i dont have to pay for cuts. Even still, selling them uncut is still a great way to make gold. A stack of 10 sell for about 1600 uncut.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭Uttik


    Shougeki wrote: »
    Hmm I have been making Ametrines / Dreadstones with my alt. Must look at the blue gems again.

    Do you get them cut before you post them up (i think cuts on our server are about 10G)


    I can cut all the GEMs or do any ench as i said in Guild chat a million times :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    Uttik

    In another thread (cant remember which one) you said you could make a couple of K easily.

    Mind telling us how. I just spent 9k on a BOE chest and need to get gold back :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,675 ✭✭✭TechnoPool


    Shougeki wrote: »
    Uttik

    In another thread (cant remember which one) you said you could make a couple of K easily.

    Mind telling us how. I just spent 9k on a BOE chest and need to get gold back :P


    whisper me in game im over on your place now, Allakhazam !


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    Unfortunately at work until 7pm or so. Boooo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭Uttik


    Shougeki wrote: »
    Uttik

    In another thread (cant remember which one) you said you could make a couple of K easily.

    Mind telling us how. I just spent 9k on a BOE chest and need to get gold back :P


    Just dropped 4k on This ring


    As for making money, Its real easy to be honest.


    But if i tell you lot, it will make it harder for me :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    Ah go on tell me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    I am up to 92K now :) Took a break for about 3 months... came back and made about 9-10K in a few days...


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    How? Im on a different server (I believe) so wont be impacting you....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Shougeki wrote: »
    How? Im on a different server (I believe) so wont be impacting you....

    Same server or not, it doesn't matter to me one bit.

    There's no secret behind making gold. Some are just good at it and some are not.

    As a poster above said, gems are a great way to make gold, but I have other professions which help me a lot.

    Blacksmithing - Maxed out - Not a big money maker at all.

    Mining - Maxed out - I used to grind ores, but now I am not too interested in that.

    Herbing - Maxed out - Grind for herbs, make pots or just sell straight up.

    Inscription - I made a lot on the nobels decks. About 5K+ a deck, then you have many other cards to sell too.

    Jewelcrafting - Maxed out - Excellent money maker, do the daily every day, only buy the recipes you need or sell well. Do NOT buy all recipes. Prospecting ore can also prove worthwile, sometimes :)

    Enchanting - 380 - Only leveled this for disenchanting the random boe's I got. Great money maker. You can make items with black smithing or jewelcrafting then disenchant them.


    Sell everything, loot all corpses, play the ah a little, do your dailies. There are plenty of things worth a lot of gold in wow, you just have to find a way to get those items.


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    Speaking of dailies, what dailies do people bother doing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,723 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Which profs do you reccomend on the first run out Xavier? Poor Cheesebread is still just a Miner/Skinner.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    Shougeki wrote: »
    Speaking of dailies, what dailies do people bother doing?

    None at all. I used to be able to make loads with my tailor/JC and Herb/alchemist on the same realm. Now im ****ed with my hunter and DK as neither of them have money making profs. Will probably move over my priest and lock soon before im flat out broke :( And i need to buy the 2 person mount for 12k by the 1st of march. Really would be easier to just buy gold since its at what 3e per 1000 or something crazy, but then i dont fancy risking a CC or my account.


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    Anti wrote: »
    :( And i need to buy the 2 person mount for 12k by the 1st of march.

    Why 1st March?

    Send a free invite a friend to yourself, sign up, and use that account for the gold (and then mail to your main char)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,723 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Shougeki wrote: »
    Why 1st March?

    Send a free invite a friend to yourself, sign up, and use that account for the gold (and then mail to your main char)
    trials cant accept mail afaik.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    Shougeki wrote: »
    Why 1st March?

    QUOTE]

    Super sekkrit plan !


  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭Magaa


    Overheal wrote: »
    Which profs do you reccomend on the first run out Xavier? Poor Cheesebread is still just a Miner/Skinner.


    i would drop skinning and raise JC


  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭Magaa


    for the love of god buy every frozen orb you can for less than 10g you will make loads next patch



    Quote from: Zarhym (Source)
    I'm sure some of you noticed this in the 3.3.3 PTR patch notes:

    * Frozo the Renowned has moved into the Dalaran Magus Commerce Exchange and will be trading your Frozen Orbs for various other trade goods.


    For those curious, here are the items for which you can trade your Frozen Orbs to Frozo. These each cost 1 Frozen Orb unless noted otherwise in parentheses:

    * Crusader Orb (6)
    * Runed Orb (4)
    * Eternal Fire
    * Eternal Earth
    * Eternal Water
    * Eternal Air
    * Eternal Life
    * Eternal Shadow
    * Frost Lotus
    * Pattern: Frosty Flying Carpet [Tailors Only] (6)

    frozen orb prices are gona go waay up


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Robby91


    Oh, that's neat (gonna have to get that carpet pattern for my Warlock :D)

    That should keep all those other pesky Engineers away from my gas clouds in Sholazar, hopefully :) Having a resource that few others are able to use (and even fewer actually use) now becomes that bit nicer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,137 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    i bought six stacks of frozen orbs last night.

    Today the price on AH went from 4g to 30 g each

    So needless to say, I'm making hefty profit ...... win


  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭Magaa


    TheDoc wrote: »
    i bought six stacks of frozen orbs last night.

    Today the price on AH went from 4g to 30 g each

    So needless to say, I'm making hefty profit ...... win


    dont sell them yet wait for the new patch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Berns


    They were 30 already on Terenas :( Lotus is about 50. Think I got about 60 in bank toon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭Magaa


    thread must not fail

    ive noticed that if you mine in wintergrasp you can get lots of titanium ore easy

    (come one people post your little tips :()


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Overheal wrote: »
    Which profs do you reccomend on the first run out Xavier? Poor Cheesebread is still just a Miner/Skinner.

    Sorry I didn't get back to you.

    If it's only gold you are after and you don't mind grinding, then collecting profs are best, such as herbing and mining, they are very easy to level compared to other professions. Herbing and mining conbined never let me down for making lots of gold.

    If the professions are needed for your characters advancement, then you need to take that into consideration. Although, if you make enough gold then you can just change your professions after. I have found myself dropping blacksmithing to grind gold, then picking it back up again after I made my gold mining/herbing. Not too keen on that though ;)

    It is also heavily based on your server. Check what the prices are on the items you can sell.

    The best way I find to make a profit is to minimise your expences. Never buy from ah and always grind the mats you need yourself (if you can manage).


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    RopeDrink wrote: »
    do your dailies and stop being lazy.

    Which dailies do you do? I generally just do the dungeon, fishing and cooking as i dunno which dailies make good cash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Drakar


    Never buy from ah and always grind the mats you need yourself (if you can manage).

    Be careful about this. Quite often you'll find that it's much more time efficient for you to just buy some stuff instead of gathering yourself.

    In WoW (and life I guess!), the resource you're trading is your time. So you always want to be focusing on activities that generate the most trading value for your time. Of course you might enjoy levelling blacksmithing and making your own gear, and thats fine (as here the reward you're getting [enjoyment] is greater than the time investment), but if you're in it just to get the money so you can go off and do stuff you might enjoy more (eg raiding etc), then always aim for activities that give you the most gold per hour for example.

    This often depends on your character class, abilities etc. For some people they'd be best out farming mobs, some might be best gaming the AH, or using professions. Just be conscious of the times you're doing something you're not really enjoying and make sure you're getting the best gold value out of that time.

    An example might be, sometimes you see people saying "I'm not paying 10g for eternal life, thats like twice what they usually are on AH, I'll go farm one and save 10g pewpew". However, instead of spending 10 mins farming (between flying etc), most players could easilly have made this in some other way which is more efficient for them and just pay the 10g on the AH. Whats worse is you often see players making the same decision for the same item when it's at the regular auction price (5g).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    Agreed, I never quite understood why people grind for a small amount of a specific mat when it's generally quicker just to make money in other ways to pay for those mats.

    Even in your example above, you could spend the 10 minutes to do 3 dailies (40G), spend the 10g and end up 30g better off than grinding.

    Basically grinding for something doesn't mean that it's 'free' as you've to invest time to do it. If you spent the same time elsewhere, you'll quite often end up with a much better return.

    As far as buying from the AH in general, one of the most common ways of 'playing' the AH is simply to find a product which has reasonably high demand that you also have a decent supply of. Then you either wait until there's a low supply on the AH, or create the low supply artificially by buying out the cheaper stuff to drive the price up, then relist and move on to the next product.

    This is hard enough to do with max level AH gear/mats as you'll have those aiming for gold cap who can destroy you while doing this if you aren't careful, but it's not all that difficult to find your own 'niche' to do it on with levelling gear/mats.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12 GEGSTER24


    to be honest playing ah is best im on ally side what ive been doing is logging lvl1 horde looking for that boe from icc woodys neck in there ah,they sell there for 5k so i /w the seller to put it on booty bay ah for 5.5...sorted sell on ally ah 10-12k i sell about 5-6necks a week not bad.Hope this helps :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    I havent even seeen one of these on my server AH yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    Yeah I used to do that cross faction buying/selling a lot a long time ago when I was running two accounts. It's risky at times but it's great if you can pull it off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭Magaa


    http://www.wowconfidential.com/

    great detalied website on making gold


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,137 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Me and a friend started a gold quest, to make as much gold as possible before cataclysm.

    We are hoping to make 100k split between two of us.

    We both put in 10k gold into a guild bank ( newly created)

    We take 5k each on our bank chars and use this to buy matts for our products to sell.

    We are dealing in just about everything split between us, my main focus is

    Gems
    Gem flipping
    Titanium powder
    titanium shuffle
    saronite shuffle
    Specialist bags
    Armour + weapon vellums
    Runescrolls
    haste pots
    Raid flasks

    Week one, which was really, getting our feet settled, we made 6k profit. How we are working it is that every copper over 5k on our bank alt, we deposit. So although we made 6k profit first week, we probably took in about 12k liquid gold in total.

    Week two we pulled in 9k profit.

    Week three we hit 13k

    Our goal is to push it further, cause we are still getting our bearings, stocking ivnentory and lowering costs.

    So in three weeks.

    27k / 2

    ( i think might be rough figures, but its profit)

    Ideally we want to make 15k income profit a week, 7500g a piece each week.


    We are really taking over markets, and its been great fun considering ive been feeling a lul towards the end of the expansion. I'm sopending so much time crafting and on the ah and love it.

    I'll keep you posted, but we are making a literal bomb here :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭magicianz


    If you dont use your emblems of triumph, buy crusaders orbs and use them with cheapest titansteel bars and saronite bars you can to craft some saronite swordbreakers! I sell every pair i make for minimum 1300g gold. Since the crusader orbs are free, each pair cost me around 700g to craft so good enough bit of profit from the craft. Coupled with gem flipping cardinals and crafting them on my 2 alchemists, buying any for under 100g and crafting bold cardinals which i sell at up to 170g when the market spikes! Made about 12k profit in the last 7-10 days from this, coupled with selling whatever enchanting mats i had. Im ecstatic with the 14k i have cause the most ive had before now was 6k when i was getting my epic flying xD and some of that was borrowed :(

    Just love that feeling being able to search the ah, find the most expensive thing and say yeah......i can buy that! :P and ive always been the worst at making gold in my group of wow friends.....now im the richest on the server we are on now :P


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