Shane Lowry - 2019 Champion Golfer of The Year (note first post please for posting guidance)

f22 · 08-12-2009 2:56pm

conno16 wrote: »

hey gorfield did you run out onto the green when lowry finally won the irish masters there earlier in the year?

Would you celebrate if your mate won the Irish open?

Oh wait, your mates would be studying for their junior cert!

PhilipMarlowe · 08-12-2009 3:00pm

conno, aren't you the same conno that got a 3 month ban from here for your previous Lowry trolling?
Sailing too close to the thin ice, to mix a couple of metaphors...

chemicalfred · 08-12-2009 3:00pm

Í haven't read every post on this thread but I really don't think its fair for people to pass comment on Shane Lowrys fitness just because he carries a few extra pounds. Its quite possible he has good cardiovascular fitness and enough stamina to perform at a high level. He may also have a high enough level of strength and flexibility also. How are people judging him? Based on what they see on the television? No-one can make an assesment of someones fitness from a photo or from watching on TV. I doubt there are many top class amateurs or professionals who know or have played with the guy personally, posting here so any views are pure speculation. People don't seem to realise how talented Shane Lowry is. You'd think he's some podgy lad who got lucky in Baltray and is now having a shot on tour. He was one of the best amateurs in the country. We should be proud of him

gorfield · 08-12-2009 3:01pm

conno16 wrote: »

hey gorfield did you run out onto the green when lowry finally won the irish masters there earlier in the year?

He doesnt play snooker conno

charlieIRL · 08-12-2009 3:05pm

chemicalfred wrote: »

...... People don't seem to realise how talented Shane Lowry is. You'd think he's some podgy lad who got lucky in Baltray and is now having a shot on tour. He was one of the best amateurs in the country. We should be proud of him

excellent post, here's to him going on to great things in the future.:)

chemicalfred · 08-12-2009 3:06pm

gorfield wrote: »

Im tired looking at all of this tbh, im not name dropping here but as a friend and team-mate of shanes i am seeing how much work he is doing on his fitness, with Eric Miller, the focus isnt on losing weight, hes working hard on strength and flexibility, which are way more important than being pencil thin. And as for this rubbish you lot talk about his short game????? LMAO the boy has a wonderful short game, iv seen it up close for the past 4yrs!!Hes doing something right, as a major club manufacturer has secured his signature for 3yrs starting in january. So stop being armchair experts and know some bloody facts before knocking a guy that has achieved one of the greatest irish sporting achievements!!!!!:mad:

Nice to hear someone qualified to judge, making sense for a change. I don't know who you are gorfield but you obviously play championship amateur golf so you know what your talking about. A lot of bull been posted here by the sort of bluffers I have to listen to in the members bar after a few pints

blackwaterfish · 08-12-2009 3:18pm

2008 - he was ranked at a career high sixth in the World Amateur Golf Ranking.

Theres pedigree for you. Now lets discuss his apparent lack of talent.

ShriekingSheet · 08-12-2009 3:22pm

gorfield wrote: »

Im tired looking at all of this tbh, im not name dropping here but as a friend and team-mate of shanes i am seeing how much work he is doing on his fitness, with Eric Miller, the focus isnt on losing weight, hes working hard on strength and flexibility, which are way more important than being pencil thin. And as for this rubbish you lot talk about his short game????? LMAO the boy has a wonderful short game, iv seen it up close for the past 4yrs!!Hes doing something right, as a major club manufacturer has secured his signature for 3yrs starting in january. So stop being armchair experts and know some bloody facts before knocking a guy that has achieved one of the greatest irish sporting achievements!!!!!:mad:

Gorfield, like it or not, your buddy is in the public domain now. Rightly or wrongly, he's going to be criticised by know-nothing shyte talkers, and will probably get (is getting?) flak from more knowledgable sources too.

He's also going to be praised to high-heaven by the same breed of idiot, and "expert analysts" when he performs well once again.

He's not an amateur anymore. He's being paid money derrived from the golfing public, and the golfing public will have their say. I've never met the guy, but I will say that I think to defend him like that on a public forum does the chap a disservice. I can see your frustration, but if I were you, or in Lowry's camp, the last thing I'd be doing is dignifying such idle criticism with the his details above. It's pointless, and only serves to add merit to what would otherwise be a throw-away argument.

conno16 · 08-12-2009 3:26pm

Licksy wrote: »

conno, aren't you the same conno that got a 3 month ban from here for your previous Lowry trolling?
Sailing too close to the thin ice, to mix a couple of metaphors...

dont see how i've been "trolling" tbh
i certainly dont think some bloke who wins in a poor field on his favourite course in bad weather conditions could be deemed one of the greatest irish sporting achievements of all time
if thats not trolling (making that sort of claim) i dont know what is

conno16 · 08-12-2009 3:28pm

f22 wrote: »

Would you celebrate if your mate won the Irish open?

yes i would
but my celebrations wouldn't involve me jumping up on down on a green like some sort of redneck that had just been released for the day
decorum is required on the golf course at all times

gorfield · 08-12-2009 3:34pm

conno16 wrote: »

yes i would
but my celebrations wouldn't involve me jumping up on down on a green like some sort of redneck that had just been released for the day
decorum is required on the golf course at all times

Decorum is also required on a public forum.

gorfield · 08-12-2009 3:40pm

ShriekingSheet wrote: »

Gorfield, like it or not, your buddy is in the public domain now. Rightly or wrongly, he's going to be criticised by know-nothing shyte talkers, and will probably get (is getting?) flak from more knowledgable sources too.

He's also going to be praised to high-heaven by the same breed of idiot, and "expert analysts" when he performs well once again.

He's not an amateur anymore. He's being paid money derrived from the golfing public, and the golfing public will have their say. I've never met the guy, but I will say that I think to defend him like that on a public forum does the chap a disservice. I can see your frustration, but if I were you, or in Lowry's camp, the last thing I'd be doing is dignifying such idle criticism with the his details above. It's pointless, and only serves to add merit to what would otherwise be a throw-away argument.

Good point, and taken.

f22 · 08-12-2009 3:42pm

conno16 wrote: »

yes i would
but my celebrations wouldn't involve me jumping up on down on a green like some sort of redneck that had just been released for the day
decorum is required on the golf course at all times

One of those 'rednecks' was his good friend Rory McIlroy, guess he might know a thing or two about decorum on course.

Sorry, better to raise your glass of pims and look down on the common folk. I've yet to read a comment of yours that isn't written specifically to annoy someone!

powerfade · 08-12-2009 4:03pm

golfbgud wrote: »

Has Lee Westwood and Ross Fisher actually fully and openly endorsed Mark Roe as being their wonder short game coach?

Direct quote from Ross Fisher's Europen Tour blog "I’ve been working hard on my short game with Mark Roe recently and there were some shots out there that week that really paid dividends."

Great occasion watching Shane win this year, a great moment for Irish sport and Irish golf. With 3 golfers in the top 50 in world rankings at the moment, Irish golf has not looked so rosy in some time. Our golfers are providing us with great entertainment on a almost weekly basis.

Shane has proven he has the game and the temperament to win and I wish him continued success next year. He needs to work hard and get in better shape and realise what it takes to become a top pro, but from his interview he knows this already and is taking steps to rectify this.

DU.LLAHAN · 08-12-2009 10:54pm

God there is alot of post's on this thread, havent read them all but why doesnt some one save this thread and bring it back out in 12 months time, and see if peoples opinion of him has changed. Since he has only played for six months as a pro lets see what he can do in twelve months. He is 138 in the world
http://www.officialworldgolfranking.com/rankings/default.sps?region=world&PageCount=3

Lets see where he is this time next year and judge him on the year past.

jimjo · 10-12-2009 9:36am

Whatever people think about Shane, he's gone round the front 9 in -5 T3 in the Alfred Dunhill Championship

That a boy Shane!!

gorfield · 10-12-2009 2:05pm

1st rd 67.

Driving avg. 300.5yds
GIR. 15/18
Fairways hit. 10/14
Putts per rd/gir. 24
Scrambles from missed gir. 2/3

Your all right he needs to get his game in shape alright.

conno16 · 10-12-2009 2:45pm

tell him to call over to my house with his medals

gorfield · 10-12-2009 2:47pm

conno16 wrote: »

tell him to call over to my house with his medals

What on earth are you on about?????

f22 · 10-12-2009 3:15pm

conno16 wrote: »

tell him to call over to my house with his medals

Your Ian Poulter shrine might frighten him away. That Alan Partridge episode springs to mind .......

L.O.F.T · 10-12-2009 3:16pm

gorfield wrote: »

What on earth are you on about?????

Dont do It gorfield

GreeBo · 10-12-2009 3:42pm

gorfield wrote: »

1st rd 67.

Driving avg. 300.5yds
GIR. 15/18
Fairways hit. 10/14
Putts per rd/gir. 24
Scrambles from missed gir. 2/3

Your all right he needs to get his game in shape alright.

1 round doth not a champion maketh.

GreeBo · 10-12-2009 3:43pm

f22 wrote: »

Your Ian Poulter shrine might frighten him away. That Alan Partridge episode springs to mind .......

He's a mentlalist!

Aidric · 10-12-2009 3:46pm

GreeBo wrote: »

1 round doth not a champion maketh.

True that. He made a solid opening to the HSBC champions as well and then bombed.

BiffoGooner · 10-12-2009 4:17pm

I wonder if Shane would be more accepted if he were from Dublin?Maybe I'm wrong but I get the odd sense of 'Ah sure he's only a bogger from down the country' about it all.

stumpypeeps · 10-12-2009 4:29pm

BiffoGooner wrote: »

I wonder if Shane would be more accepted if he were from Dublin?Maybe I'm wrong but I get the odd sense of 'Ah sure he's only a bogger from down the country' about it all.

If he was from Dublin he'd have sharted himself at Baltray last May.

You can take that to the bank.;)

f22 · 10-12-2009 4:29pm

BiffoGooner wrote: »

I wonder if Shane would be more accepted if he were from Dublin?Maybe I'm wrong but I get the odd sense of 'Ah sure he's only a bogger from down the country' about it all.

Way off the mark there, just typical good old fashioned Irish begrudgery to be honest

BiffoGooner · 10-12-2009 4:38pm

f22 wrote: »

Way off the mark there, just typical good old fashioned Irish begrudgery to be honest

I hope so.

Mister Sifter · 10-12-2009 4:45pm

BiffoGooner wrote: »

I wonder if Shane would be more accepted if he were from Dublin?Maybe I'm wrong but I get the odd sense of 'Ah sure he's only a bogger from down the country' about it all.

Do all non Dublin people have an inferiority complex against those from Dublin?

I think it's more to do with a lack of understanding and golf cop on to be honest.

f22 · 10-12-2009 4:49pm

BiffoGooner wrote: »

I hope so.

Seems like a likeable chap to me, anyone I know that knows him have only good thing to say about him. I have been well impressed by him and have seen him play quite a few times as an amateur.

I hope he does well.

stumpypeeps · 10-12-2009 4:53pm

Mister Sifter wrote: »

Do all non Dublin people have an inferiority complex against those from Dublin?

Not in sport we don't, quite the opposite.:p

gorfield · 10-12-2009 4:56pm

Mister Sifter wrote: »

Do all non Dublin people have an inferiority complex against those from Dublin?

I think it's more to do with a lack of understanding and golf cop on to be honest.

I disagree, iv grown up playing golf and the guys from dublin were always treated differently, always got picked on teams, no matter how bad they were! Its just something that happens in sport...and still does. You only have to look at the irish team at the home internationals in 2007 at baltray to see it in all its glory.....

PS i have absoloutly nothing against dublin people.

f22 · 10-12-2009 5:02pm

It's bizarre that even at the highest levels of the amateur game that something like that can exist. From what I've been told it's exactly like some of the **** that club team captains and commitees go on with, toys for the boys etc.

It seems that even at a high level if you annoy the wrong person your card is marked no matter how well you are playing.

ridonkulous · 11-12-2009 3:04pm

gorfield wrote: »

I disagree, iv grown up playing golf and the guys from dublin were always treated differently, always got picked on teams, no matter how bad they were! Its just something that happens in sport...and still does. You only have to look at the irish team at the home internationals in 2007 at baltray to see it in all its glory.....

So who do you believe didn't merit their place on the team?

And who was more deserving of a place?

mag · 11-12-2009 3:20pm

ridonkulous wrote: »

And who was more deserving of a place?

pat murray is one good recent example

markie4 · 11-12-2009 3:40pm

gorfield wrote: »

I disagree, iv grown up playing golf and the guys from dublin were always treated differently, always got picked on teams, no matter how bad they were! Its just something that happens in sport...and still does. You only have to look at the irish team at the home internationals in 2007 at baltray to see it in all its glory.....

PS i have absoloutly nothing against dublin people.

Gorfield, I think you're right in this particular case, but it does make me smile. Sounds remarkably similar to what Roy Keane, Stephen Ireland and even Damien Richardson (if you've heard the Off the Ball theme) have said about the "Dublin" bias, so you're in good company. Not a criticism of you, just an observation.

As a dub, I think it's true that if the selectors for any team are based/concentrated in a geographical area with dublin being the most likely place, then that'll be their bias.

tiptap · 11-12-2009 3:42pm

can't believe there is so much hype about this,
he wins one tournament...great..well done..

what has he done since...

for god's sake, people are talking like he's the hero of all heros

stumpypeeps · 11-12-2009 3:45pm

tiptap wrote: »

can't believe there is so much hype about this,
he wins one tournament...great..well done..

what has he done since...

for god's sake, people are talking like he's the hero of all heros

Just like that Crazy Frog. Where is he now?

markie4 · 11-12-2009 3:47pm

stumpypeeps wrote: »

Just like that Crazy Frog. Where is he now?

Crazy Frog's certainly not in top 150 golfers in the world, which Lowry currently is

stumpypeeps · 11-12-2009 3:48pm

markie4 wrote: »

Crazy Frog's certainly not in top 150 golfers in the world, which Lowry currently is

I think you might have missed my air of sarcasm...;)

tiptap · 11-12-2009 3:50pm

stumpypeeps wrote: »

Just like that Crazy Frog. Where is he now?

ha....ha......ha......ha.......ha.........ha.........ha
:rolleyes:

Mister Sifter · 11-12-2009 4:00pm

tiptap wrote: »

can't believe there is so much hype about this,
he wins one tournament...great..well done..

what has he done since...

for god's sake, people are talking like he's the hero of all heros

A steady start to life on tour, more than 200k in the bank in the process, a recent top 3 finish, regularly making cuts, and signs of clear progression in all aspects of his game.

He's done quite a lot actually.

gorfield · 11-12-2009 4:22pm

mag wrote: »

pat murray is one good recent example

Pats exclusion this year was an embarrassment to the gui. Our irish champion deemed not good enough for the irish team

.

But going back to baltray in 07, that year the gui moved the interprovincials to baltray to give the selectors a chance to set up the course and use the interpros to aid team selection. I for one felt i was in the running for a spot as id won a cship, and added two quarter finals. I unfortunatly was ill that week and didnt make the first mornings 4somes. I did however recover to make it for the rest of the week, and being paired with Niall Kearney in the 4somes was a huge indication i was being looked at. I was pretty sure i was getting a reserve spot(which was going to be a start as 2 players were known to be unavailable) after Niall and i went 8 under par and 6up after 11 in our last match having been followed from the start by the selectors. I won my singles that eve also to finish the week with 5 wins from 5 matches. So how a chap (dublin club) got selected having only contested 1 championship (last 16) and winning 1.5pts from 6 at interpros(playing at no 9 in singles) got selected ahead of both me and douglas Peter o keefe, who won 5 from 6 playing at no 1 that week ill never know!

Apologies mods for being off topic but someone asked for my feelings on that year.
The explaination i got? I didnt play all 6 matches....

tiptap · 11-12-2009 5:30pm

Mister Sifter wrote: »

A steady start to life on tour, more than 200k in the bank in the process, a recent top 3 finish, regularly making cuts, and signs of clear progression in all aspects of his game.

He's done quite a lot actually.

and this warrents all the attention he's getting
you'd swear he's already won back to back majors the way people are going on

stumpypeeps · 11-12-2009 5:33pm

What attention? Your not his older less talented brother?:p

Mister Sifter · 11-12-2009 5:57pm

tiptap wrote: »

and this warrents all the attention he's getting
you'd swear he's already won back to back majors the way people are going on

Begrudgery at its finest.

PhilipMarlowe · 11-12-2009 6:43pm

You'd swear that he was 49 and his career had been a let down after a promising start... maybe he was on tv3 or something.
You'd swear it was a common everyday thing to be one of the best amateurs in the world. (think about it, imagine being the best in your club.. then your county... province, country... then the world).
Imagine winning a European Tour event, let alone your home open, let alone as an amateur.
Imagine you turned professional only a little while ago and accounted for yourself with some strong results since then.
Now imagine you're only a young lad.
Now imagine you're on a golf forum, let alone an Irish golf forum and imagine who we'd be discussing and supporting?

conno16 · 13-12-2009 10:28pm

with steve williams out of work for a few months should lowry jump ahead and go for him?
his experience would be invaluable to the offaly man

heavyballs · 13-12-2009 10:35pm

conno16 wrote: »

with steve williams out of work for a few months should lowry jump ahead and go for him?
his experience would be invaluable to the offaly man

pls tell me that's a joke

BUACHAILL · 13-12-2009 10:37pm

you should have known better as to even ask !!

Conno your a pest but a very funny one ...fair play !

Shane Lowry - 2019 Champion Golfer of The Year (note first post please for posting guidance)

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