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N25 - Waterford City Bypass

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  • #242
    Bards
    Registered Users Posts: 2,687 ✭✭✭Bards


    Furet wrote: »
    Are they holding a charity walk / cycle at the weekend? I'm looking forward to seeing photos here of the road in operation and its signage.

    I doubt it very much, AFAIK there is a safety Audit taking place at the weekend along the whole road so it would be safe to assume they would not want Joe Public involved


  • #243
    Sully
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Furet wrote: »
    Are they holding a charity walk / cycle at the weekend? I'm looking forward to seeing photos here of the road in operation and its signage.

    Nope. It was called off due to Health and Safety afaik.


  • #244
    alpha2zulu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭alpha2zulu


    would imagine 100 km/h (since it's not a motorway). There will probably be a lower limit in the vicinity of the toll plaza

    I guess the best we can hope for is that Kilkenny and Waterford County councils have the cojones that the Cork CC lads had in putting a 120km/h limit on the N25 DC approach into Cork as far as Dunkettle.

    However given past form I very much doubt the local councils would have the foresight to do this.:rolleyes:


  • #245
    Bards
    Registered Users Posts: 2,687 ✭✭✭Bards


    alpha2zulu wrote: »
    I guess the best we can hope for is that Kilkenny and Waterford County councils have the cojones that the Cork CC lads had in putting a 120km/h limit on the N25 DC approach into Cork as far as Dunkettle.

    However given past form I very much doubt the local councils would have the foresight to do this.:rolleyes:

    they wont even up the limit on the Outer Ring Road which at the moment is a lousy 60 Km/h, so what hope do we have for 120 Km/h on the WCB


  • #246
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    alpha2zulu wrote: »
    I guess the best we can hope for is that Kilkenny and Waterford County councils have the cojones that the Cork CC lads had in putting a 120km/h limit on the N25 DC approach into Cork as far as Dunkettle.

    However given past form I very much doubt the local councils would have the foresight to do this.:rolleyes:

    Thats not the only DC cork have bumped - the Ballincollig Bypass and before it became motorway, the Watergrasshill Bypass were also raised to 120. But then again Cork also has masses of 100km/h R road, they seem to like their speed!


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  • #247
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,384 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    MYOB wrote: »
    Thats not the only DC cork have bumped - the Ballincollig Bypass and before it became motorway, the Watergrasshill Bypass were also raised to 120. But then again Cork also has masses of 100km/h R road, they seem to like their speed!

    They are dead feckin right! Cork people always seem to have their independent view of rules for the country so I'm not suprised!
    Good to see some common sense down there ;)


  • #248
    wellbutty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭wellbutty


    I managed to get out around the bypass today for a look, it's hard to imagine that after all the frustrating years of planning and promises that it's almost open. It's also unbelievable the number of people working on all parts of the site, redoing sections of concrete, cleaning, putting up signs, backfilling, landscaping etc

    Because of this, it was impossible to get onto the road but I did get a few photos.

    Map...self explanatory...the numbers correspond to the photo names below.
    1a - 1d......Whelan's Bridge, all looking towards the new Suir bridge


  • #249
    wellbutty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭wellbutty


    1e + 1f......Whelan's Bridge, all looking towards the new Suir bridge
    1g.........Whelan's Bridge, looking towards Cork
    2a...looking towards the new Suir bridge


  • #250
    wellbutty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭wellbutty


    3a - 3c,...taken from the overpass shown in 2a.jpg, looking towards Cork
    3d......taken from the overpass shown in 2a.jpg, looking towards the new Suir bridge
    4a...taken from the overpass near the Manor Court Hotel, looking towards Cork


  • #251
    wellbutty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭wellbutty


    4b...taken from the overpass near the Manor Court Hotel, looking towards the new Suir bridge
    4c...sign warning of the approaching junction (shown on the map in blue)


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  • #252
    fricatus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    wellbutty wrote: »
    4c...sign warning of the approaching junction (shown on the map in blue)

    Odd that Waterford is signed straight on, and then also signed - albeit as "Waterford (south)" - in the white panel.

    That's coming from Kilmeaden, approaching the new western link (i.e. the turn-off for Harvey Norman and TK Maxx), right?

    I would have thought that was the main exit for all parts of Waterford except Ferrybank? :confused:

    Great pics though... looking forward to taking a spin on it on Tuesday :D


  • #253
    wellbutty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭wellbutty


    fricatus wrote: »
    Odd that Waterford is signed straight on, and then also signed - albeit as "Waterford (south)" - in the white panel.

    That's coming from Kilmeaden, approaching the new western link (i.e. the turn-off for Harvey Norman and TK Maxx), right?

    I would have thought that was the main exit for all parts of Waterford except Ferrybank? :confused:

    Great pics though... looking forward to taking a spin on it on Tuesday :D

    Yeah you've got the right location for the sign fricatus, I think it should be exactly as you called it....is it a sneaky plot to get visitors across the toll bridge?! And then make them cross Rice Bridge to the Quay for a parking space? :confused:


  • #254
    johnbk
    Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭johnbk


    I can’t believe that sign, its so cynical. Nice pictures. Great to see the pictures.

    My views are my own.



  • #255
    wellbutty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭wellbutty


    You'd expect the sign to indicate Rosslare, Dublin, Kilkenny and Limerick are all straight ahead and then Waterford City, Tramore, Airport, Hospital and W.I.T. to the left. Or just have "All Major Routes" or "All Other Routes" as straight ahead.


  • #256
    fricatus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    wellbutty wrote: »
    You'd expect the sign to indicate Rosslare, Dublin, Kilkenny and Limerick are all straight ahead and then Waterford City, Tramore, Airport, Hospital and W.I.T. to the left. Or just have "All Major Routes" or "All Other Routes" as straight ahead.

    I was just about to say exactly that... Dublin and Limerick at the very least, in addition to Rosslare.

    Maybe related, maybe slightly off-topic? ...but I note that Waterford County Council seems to have an obsession with Rosslare. Down near Lemybrien and Dungarvan there are signs that say N25 Rosslare and don't even mention the city... WTF??? :confused:


  • #257
    mike65
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    wellbutty wrote: »
    it a sneaky plot to get visitors across the toll bridge?! And then make them cross Rice Bridge to the Quay for a parking space? :confused:

    The word TOLL might put them off. That said the signage is as poor as one expects.


  • #258
    nordydan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭nordydan


    Great pics, 3c in particular. You should enter it for SABRE Photo of the month.

    BTW this screams motorway to me, no excuses


  • #259
    serfboard
    Registered Users Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭serfboard


    nordydan wrote: »
    BTW this screams motorway to me, no excuses

    Agree.


  • #260
    fricatus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    nordydan wrote: »
    BTW this screams motorway to me, no excuses

    Mos def... I still don't get the NRA's excuse about "short isolated stretches" or whatever it was. The M11 near Bray was such a stretch for many years, and north of the border, the one around Ballymena (forget the number) is still one such stretch.

    Maybe any future redesignation might provide us with an opportunity to improve the signage. It really appears to be woeful (although of course the road itself - and in particular the bridge - appear to be really something).


  • #261
    stephenc1979
    Registered Users Posts: 44 ✭stephenc1979


    I reckon the reason for diverting traffic over the toll bridge is to alleviate the BandQ route, the flyover over the bypass is very narrow and to me could be a bit of a bottle neck.... I also heard today that a bridge walk WILL go ahead on Sunday... Cullen does his monday offical opening and then it'll be open tues morning...


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  • #262
    Bards
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    stephenc1979 wrote: »
    I reckon the reason for diverting traffic over the toll bridge is to alleviate the BandQ route, the flyover over the bypass is very narrow and to me could be a bit of a bottle neck.... I also heard today that a bridge walk WILL go ahead on Sunday... Cullen does his monday offical opening and then it'll be open tues morning...

    over in the Waterford City Forum - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055709478 , they're discussing a walk on Monday afternoon with buses ferrying passengers from the clock tower to the bridge. This would make sense as there will aparantly be a safety audit taking place

    Edit:

    Source

    http://www.waterfordcity.ie/n25bypass/news.htm


  • #263
    Road-Hog
    Registered Users Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭Road-Hog


    Bards wrote: »
    over in the Waterford City Forum - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055709478 , they're discussing a walk on Monday afternoon with buses ferrying passengers from the clock tower to the bridge. This would make sense as there will aparantly be a safety audit taking place

    Edit:

    Source

    http://www.waterfordcity.ie/n25bypass/news.htm

    Don't know where you are getting this safety audit thing from Bards, from my good source the 'road safety audits' took place last week.....!


  • #264
    Tech3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭Tech3


    nordydan wrote: »
    BTW this screams motorway to me, no excuses

    Same goes for the N7 tunnel, these HQDC's should be have been redesignated in the second tranche.


  • #265
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Bards's source says the bypass will open to traffic on Monday afternoon, not Tuesday.


  • #266
    Sully
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    Furet wrote: »
    Bards's source says the bypass will open to traffic on Monday afternoon, not Tuesday.

    Iv been told its Tuesday but thats wrong also. The website says Monday. Funny awl world.


  • #267
    Irish and Proud
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Irish and Proud


    wellbutty wrote: »
    I managed to get out around the bypass today for a look, it's hard to imagine that after all the frustrating years of planning and promises that it's almost open. It's also unbelievable the number of people working on all parts of the site, redoing sections of concrete, cleaning, putting up signs, backfilling, landscaping etc

    Because of this, it was impossible to get onto the road but I did get a few photos.

    Map...self explanatory...the numbers correspond to the photo names below.
    1a - 1d......Whelan's Bridge, all looking towards the new Suir bridge

    Nice work mate!

    Image 3c is pretty stunning alright - the road is looking good! Whelan's Bridge looks very interesting - it parallels the way many of our bridges are built today, but more importantly, it also parallels the way in which large fly-overs are constructed in the US - I like that! :D

    Regards!


  • #268
    dougal
    Registered Users Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    My favourite picture of the future that was in one of the threads here.

    90% of this will be ready to go next Monday.


  • #269
    Enbee
    Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭Enbee


    dougal wrote: »
    My favourite picture of the future that was in one of the threads here.

    90% of this will be ready to go next Monday.

    Spoilt, however, by the sight of that absurdly mangled mess of roundabouts. It's not like it was that much more complicated than the N4-M50 interchange.

    I look forward to a more impressive vista when it's rebuilt properly in 20 years!!


  • #270
    dougal
    Registered Users Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    Enbee wrote: »
    Spoilt, however, by the sight of that absurdly mangled mess of roundabouts. It's not like it was that much more complicated than the N4-M50 interchange.

    I look forward to a more impressive vista when it's rebuilt properly in 20 years!!

    True but it is still a big improvement on what is there currently!


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  • #271
    wellbutty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭wellbutty


    Enbee wrote: »
    Spoilt, however, by the sight of that absurdly mangled mess of roundabouts. It's not like it was that much more complicated than the N4-M50 interchange.

    I look forward to a more impressive vista when it's rebuilt properly in 20 years!!

    If you're coming towards this M9/N24 roundabout along the single-carriageway N24, you obviously have to give way to the right...which will be all the Dublin-bound traffic coming from Waterford. This is where I think problems will occur. I think the M9 traffic entering this roundabout will be ok because the N24 is at the opposite side of the roundabout. If and when the Mooncoin bypass is built and it fills the last slot on the roundabout, the whole junction will have to be redesigned.

    This makes me wonder why they didn't built a proper junction when they had the greenfield site, which is considerably cheaper than upgrading the meeting place of 3 major roads...while they're in use!

    We'll know a bit more next week ;)


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