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N25 - Waterford City Bypass

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Bards

Furet wrote: »

Are they holding a charity walk / cycle at the weekend? I'm looking forward to seeing photos here of the road in operation and its signage.

I doubt it very much, AFAIK there is a safety Audit taking place at the weekend along the whole road so it would be safe to assume they would not want Joe Public involved

Sully

Furet wrote: »

Are they holding a charity walk / cycle at the weekend? I'm looking forward to seeing photos here of the road in operation and its signage.

Nope. It was called off due to Health and Safety afaik.

alpha2zulu

would imagine 100 km/h (since it's not a motorway). There will probably be a lower limit in the vicinity of the toll plaza

I guess the best we can hope for is that Kilkenny and Waterford County councils have the cojones that the Cork CC lads had in putting a 120km/h limit on the N25 DC approach into Cork as far as Dunkettle.

However given past form I very much doubt the local councils would have the foresight to do this.:rolleyes:

Bards

alpha2zulu wrote: »

I guess the best we can hope for is that Kilkenny and Waterford County councils have the cojones that the Cork CC lads had in putting a 120km/h limit on the N25 DC approach into Cork as far as Dunkettle.

However given past form I very much doubt the local councils would have the foresight to do this.:rolleyes:

they wont even up the limit on the Outer Ring Road which at the moment is a lousy 60 Km/h, so what hope do we have for 120 Km/h on the WCB

L1011

alpha2zulu wrote: »

I guess the best we can hope for is that Kilkenny and Waterford County councils have the cojones that the Cork CC lads had in putting a 120km/h limit on the N25 DC approach into Cork as far as Dunkettle.

However given past form I very much doubt the local councils would have the foresight to do this.:rolleyes:

Thats not the only DC cork have bumped - the Ballincollig Bypass and before it became motorway, the Watergrasshill Bypass were also raised to 120. But then again Cork also has masses of 100km/h R road, they seem to like their speed!

road_high

MYOB wrote: »

Thats not the only DC cork have bumped - the Ballincollig Bypass and before it became motorway, the Watergrasshill Bypass were also raised to 120. But then again Cork also has masses of 100km/h R road, they seem to like their speed!

They are dead feckin right! Cork people always seem to have their independent view of rules for the country so I'm not suprised!
Good to see some common sense down there

wellbutty

I managed to get out around the bypass today for a look, it's hard to imagine that after all the frustrating years of planning and promises that it's almost open. It's also unbelievable the number of people working on all parts of the site, redoing sections of concrete, cleaning, putting up signs, backfilling, landscaping etc

Because of this, it was impossible to get onto the road but I did get a few photos.

Map...self explanatory...the numbers correspond to the photo names below.
1a - 1d......Whelan's Bridge, all looking towards the new Suir bridge

wellbutty

1e + 1f......Whelan's Bridge, all looking towards the new Suir bridge
1g.........Whelan's Bridge, looking towards Cork
2a...looking towards the new Suir bridge

wellbutty

3a - 3c,...taken from the overpass shown in 2a.jpg, looking towards Cork
3d......taken from the overpass shown in 2a.jpg, looking towards the new Suir bridge
4a...taken from the overpass near the Manor Court Hotel, looking towards Cork

wellbutty

4b...taken from the overpass near the Manor Court Hotel, looking towards the new Suir bridge
4c...sign warning of the approaching junction (shown on the map in blue)

fricatus

wellbutty wrote: »

4c...sign warning of the approaching junction (shown on the map in blue)

Odd that Waterford is signed straight on, and then also signed - albeit as "Waterford (south)" - in the white panel.

That's coming from Kilmeaden, approaching the new western link (i.e. the turn-off for Harvey Norman and TK Maxx), right?

I would have thought that was the main exit for all parts of Waterford except Ferrybank?

Great pics though... looking forward to taking a spin on it on Tuesday

wellbutty

fricatus wrote: »

Odd that Waterford is signed straight on, and then also signed - albeit as "Waterford (south)" - in the white panel.

That's coming from Kilmeaden, approaching the new western link (i.e. the turn-off for Harvey Norman and TK Maxx), right?

I would have thought that was the main exit for all parts of Waterford except Ferrybank?

Great pics though... looking forward to taking a spin on it on Tuesday

Yeah you've got the right location for the sign fricatus, I think it should be exactly as you called it....is it a sneaky plot to get visitors across the toll bridge?! And then make them cross Rice Bridge to the Quay for a parking space?

johnbk

I can’t believe that sign, its so cynical. Nice pictures. Great to see the pictures.

wellbutty

You'd expect the sign to indicate Rosslare, Dublin, Kilkenny and Limerick are all straight ahead and then Waterford City, Tramore, Airport, Hospital and W.I.T. to the left. Or just have "All Major Routes" or "All Other Routes" as straight ahead.

fricatus

wellbutty wrote: »

You'd expect the sign to indicate Rosslare, Dublin, Kilkenny and Limerick are all straight ahead and then Waterford City, Tramore, Airport, Hospital and W.I.T. to the left. Or just have "All Major Routes" or "All Other Routes" as straight ahead.

I was just about to say exactly that... Dublin and Limerick at the very least, in addition to Rosslare.

Maybe related, maybe slightly off-topic? ...but I note that Waterford County Council seems to have an obsession with Rosslare. Down near Lemybrien and Dungarvan there are signs that say N25 Rosslare and don't even mention the city... WTF???

mike65

wellbutty wrote: »

it a sneaky plot to get visitors across the toll bridge?! And then make them cross Rice Bridge to the Quay for a parking space?

The word TOLL might put them off. That said the signage is as poor as one expects.

nordydan

Great pics, 3c in particular. You should enter it for SABRE Photo of the month.

BTW this screams motorway to me, no excuses

serfboard

nordydan wrote: »

BTW this screams motorway to me, no excuses

Agree.

fricatus

nordydan wrote: »

BTW this screams motorway to me, no excuses

Mos def... I still don't get the NRA's excuse about "short isolated stretches" or whatever it was. The M11 near Bray was such a stretch for many years, and north of the border, the one around Ballymena (forget the number) is still one such stretch.

Maybe any future redesignation might provide us with an opportunity to improve the signage. It really appears to be woeful (although of course the road itself - and in particular the bridge - appear to be really something).

stephenc1979

I reckon the reason for diverting traffic over the toll bridge is to alleviate the BandQ route, the flyover over the bypass is very narrow and to me could be a bit of a bottle neck.... I also heard today that a bridge walk WILL go ahead on Sunday... Cullen does his monday offical opening and then it'll be open tues morning...

Bards

stephenc1979 wrote: »

I reckon the reason for diverting traffic over the toll bridge is to alleviate the BandQ route, the flyover over the bypass is very narrow and to me could be a bit of a bottle neck.... I also heard today that a bridge walk WILL go ahead on Sunday... Cullen does his monday offical opening and then it'll be open tues morning...

over in the Waterford City Forum - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055709478 , they're discussing a walk on Monday afternoon with buses ferrying passengers from the clock tower to the bridge. This would make sense as there will aparantly be a safety audit taking place

Edit:

Source

http://www.waterfordcity.ie/n25bypass/news.htm

Road-Hog

Bards wrote: »

over in the Waterford City Forum - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055709478 , they're discussing a walk on Monday afternoon with buses ferrying passengers from the clock tower to the bridge. This would make sense as there will aparantly be a safety audit taking place

Edit:

Source

http://www.waterfordcity.ie/n25bypass/news.htm

Don't know where you are getting this safety audit thing from Bards, from my good source the 'road safety audits' took place last week.....!

Tech3

nordydan wrote: »

BTW this screams motorway to me, no excuses

Same goes for the N7 tunnel, these HQDC's should be have been redesignated in the second tranche.

Amtmann

Bards's source says the bypass will open to traffic on Monday afternoon, not Tuesday.

Sully

Furet wrote: »

Bards's source says the bypass will open to traffic on Monday afternoon, not Tuesday.

Iv been told its Tuesday but thats wrong also. The website says Monday. Funny awl world.

Irish and Proud

wellbutty wrote: »

I managed to get out around the bypass today for a look, it's hard to imagine that after all the frustrating years of planning and promises that it's almost open. It's also unbelievable the number of people working on all parts of the site, redoing sections of concrete, cleaning, putting up signs, backfilling, landscaping etc

Because of this, it was impossible to get onto the road but I did get a few photos.

Map...self explanatory...the numbers correspond to the photo names below.
1a - 1d......Whelan's Bridge, all looking towards the new Suir bridge

Nice work mate!

Image 3c is pretty stunning alright - the road is looking good! Whelan's Bridge looks very interesting - it parallels the way many of our bridges are built today, but more importantly, it also parallels the way in which large fly-overs are constructed in the US - I like that!

Regards!

dougal

My favourite picture of the future that was in one of the threads here.

90% of this will be ready to go next Monday.

Enbee

dougal wrote: »

My favourite picture of the future that was in one of the threads here.

90% of this will be ready to go next Monday.

Spoilt, however, by the sight of that absurdly mangled mess of roundabouts. It's not like it was that much more complicated than the N4-M50 interchange.

I look forward to a more impressive vista when it's rebuilt properly in 20 years!!

dougal

Enbee wrote: »

Spoilt, however, by the sight of that absurdly mangled mess of roundabouts. It's not like it was that much more complicated than the N4-M50 interchange.

I look forward to a more impressive vista when it's rebuilt properly in 20 years!!

True but it is still a big improvement on what is there currently!

wellbutty

Enbee wrote: »

Spoilt, however, by the sight of that absurdly mangled mess of roundabouts. It's not like it was that much more complicated than the N4-M50 interchange.

I look forward to a more impressive vista when it's rebuilt properly in 20 years!!

If you're coming towards this M9/N24 roundabout along the single-carriageway N24, you obviously have to give way to the right...which will be all the Dublin-bound traffic coming from Waterford. This is where I think problems will occur. I think the M9 traffic entering this roundabout will be ok because the N24 is at the opposite side of the roundabout. If and when the Mooncoin bypass is built and it fills the last slot on the roundabout, the whole junction will have to be redesigned.

This makes me wonder why they didn't built a proper junction when they had the greenfield site, which is considerably cheaper than upgrading the meeting place of 3 major roads...while they're in use!

We'll know a bit more next week