N25 - Waterford City Bypass

Bards

For those interested New website went live today

http://www.waterfordcity.ie/n25bypass

Amtmann

Great website.

fricatus

Next time you're on the Waterford-Dublin train just outside Waterford where the approach roads to the new bridge are being built, have a look out towards the bridge pylon. You get a real sense now of what the road and bridge will look like once they're complete. Amazing!

johnbk

The Suir bridge will be massive by Irish standards and will dwarf the Boyne bridge. It's pylon is 93m high while Waterford's will be 120m high. Also, the road deck will be proportionally lower on the Suir bridge making it seem even higher. The main span on the Suir bridge will be 230m. Foyle bridge in Derry is 234m while the Boyne bridge is 170m
http://www.roughanodonovan.com/Publications/BOYNE%20BRIDGE%20PAPER%20030303.PDF
http://www.nra.ie/PublicPrivatePartnership/ContractorsNewsletters/file,14752,en.pdf
http://www.waterfordcity.ie/n25bypass/bridge.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foyle_Bridge

Amtmann

johnbk wrote: »

The Suir bridge will be massive by Irish standards and will dwarf the Boyne bridge. It's pylon is 93m high while Waterford's will be 120m high. Also, the road deck will be proportionally lower on the Suir bridge making it seem even higher. The main span on the Suir bridge will be 230m. Foyle bridge in Derry is 234m while the Boyne bridge is 170m
http://www.roughanodonovan.com/Publications/BOYNE%20BRIDGE%20PAPER%20030303.PDF
http://www.nra.ie/PublicPrivatePartnership/ContractorsNewsletters/file,14752,en.pdf
http://www.waterfordcity.ie/n25bypass/bridge.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foyle_Bridge

Thanks again. Must say, the Suir Bridge will be cool. Someone care to start a wikipedia page on it?

Chris_533976

AFAIK the New Ross bypass bridge will be bigger than the Suir Bridge

Amtmann

Chris_533976 wrote: »

AFAIK the New Ross bypass bridge will be bigger than the Suir Bridge

What road improvement scheme is that?

road_high

Furet wrote: »

What road improvement scheme is that?

New Ross bypass, N25. Has been planned for years.

mike65

We'll all be dead by the time that opens.

Mike

Bards

Apparantly it is due to start in 2009 as a PPP (Shadow Toll). From what I am hearing I believe ascon/Dragados who are building the Suir bridge will turn their attention to the Barrow once the Waterford City bypass is open.

Sully

Bards wrote: »

Apparantly it is due to start in 2009 as a PPP (Shadow Toll). From what I am hearing I believe ascon/Dragados who are building the Suir bridge will turn their attention to the Barrow once the Waterford City bypass is open.

Do they have an ETA for completion of the bypass, or any plans etc. available online? Would be interested in this.

Bards

Sully wrote: »

Do they have an ETA for completion of the bypass, or any plans etc. available online? Would be interested in this.

plans can be found here

http://www.thrdo.com/wexproj04.html

ABP Decision due 17th September

http://www.newrossstandard.ie/news/bypass-decision-put-back-for-third-time-1471928.html

mackerski

Furet wrote: »

Great website.

You think? My mark of a great site is one that work on a web browser. And the map on this one is a big empty sheet of white on mine...

Bards

mackerski wrote: »

You think? My mark of a great site is one that work on a web browser. And the map on this one is a big empty sheet of white on mine...

I have seen it run on my three computers at home each with a different version of Internet Explorer. I can open it on multiple computers without a problem at my place of work without a problem - go figure

mackerski

Bards wrote: »

I have seen it run on my three computers at home each with a different version of Internet Explorer. I can open it on multiple computers without a problem at my place of work without a problem - go figure

Three different versions of IE wouldn't be my idea of cross-browser testing. FWIW, I can tell you that it also works on Firefox, which I've just tried. That shows me that they've used Google maps, which is a very valid approach, and one that should normally work just fine on Safari, which is the browser that I use (and not something I usually regard as "my problem"). But somehow it has come out broken.

"This site best viewed on a web browser..."

Amtmann

I started a wiki page on the Suir Bridge. Please feel free to expand it! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suir_Bridge

mike65

Hi

that should be retitled Waterford City Bypass so it can be easily linked to other wiki articles which mention same.

Mike.

BluntGuy

mike65 wrote: »

Hi

that should be retitled Waterford City Bypass so it can be easily linked to other wiki articles which mention same.

Mike.

I don't think it should.

The Boyne Bridge on the M1 motorway has its own specific page related to the bridge itself.

The link given to the N25 page will suffice methinks...

Amtmann

BluntGuy wrote: »

I don't think it should.

The Boyne Bridge on the M1 motorway has its own specific page related to the bridge itself.

The link given to the N25 page will suffice methinks...

I've linked it to the N25 page, the Waterford City page, the Boyne River Bridge page, as well as placed into the "Bridges in the Republic of Ireland" and "Cable-stayed Bridges" categories. That should do. Presumably more skilled people will edit and or expand it accordingly!

BluntGuy

Since we're on the subject of wikipedia, there are now specific pages for the M7, M8 and M9 motorways. All the latest developments will be found on those pages and each page will feature a 'clear scheme layout' showing the way the exits have been laid out and where they lead.

BluntGuy

Okay then, just in case there was any confusion regarding whether or not the road will be motorway.

According to the NRA's website the N25 PPP project has a motorway order attached to it. However, I have decided to e-mail the NRA to clarify this issue...

fricatus

New diversion in place as of Saturday morning. The N9 is closed now just north of its junction with the N24, so as to allow the bridges for the new bypass and the new section of N9 to be built.

Dublin-bound traffic is being diverted onto the N24 out by the Ferry Bar and out onto a roundabout near Grannagh Castle, before looping back around to the right and down near the new Kilmacow road.

dmeehan

Bards wrote: »

plans can be found here

http://www.thrdo.com/wexproj04.html

that website says Road Open Winter 2007
http://www.thrdo.com/n25newrossdates.html

fricatus

There's an electronic sign on the new Newrath roundabout that says that a new section of road will be open on Thursday, 23 October.

My guess is that the left-hand side (travelling in) of the new Sallypark/Newrath DC will be opened, with two-way traffic initially. It looks like they'll probably build the right-hand side of it then over the next few months.

Is that more or less correct? Anyone got any information?

They've also started to build the bridge deck on the Suir bridge itself. It's looking very impressive. Anyone got any pictures?

road_high

dmeehan wrote: »

that website says Road Open Winter 2007
http://www.thrdo.com/n25newrossdates.html

All their dates are a joke and a pipedream. Wonder will the M9 motorway take much traffic away from New ross (i.e. some Dublin bound traffic).

Unlikely I guess, really is an horrendous bottlekneck. But 1 billion for a bypass is completely OTT.

spacetweek

mfitzy wrote: »

But 1 billion for a bypass is completely OTT.

Ehh??? A billion?

Bards

Latest newsletter can be found below

http://www.crg.ie/WaterfordNewsletterMar09.pdf

Sully

Just for the record... (I posted in the wrong thread earlier)

I went from B&Q to the bridge today. All that's needed is a cleanup, lining and fitting of the rest of the street lights. When you arrive at the bridge there is a lot of work to be done. Security said it will be 2-3 months and the bridge will be fully completed. Apparently they get a load of visitors!

The toll plaza has been erected also.

http://pix.ie/sully/album/336622 for photos. Will post again once updated with new photographs!

Road-Hog

Some additional pictures of various parts of the Waterford Bypass are now viewable from the following link..........

http://www.waterfordcity.ie/n25bypass/gallery.html

deiseman21

any pics of northside apart from bypass website

alpha2zulu

Some reports on the KK forum that the bridge is becoming known locally at least as the Catflap....I like it!:D

BluntGuy

I was down in Waterford a few weeks ago, and couldn't resist taking a few snaps. I don't know what's going on in some of these shots, but they may be of use to some of you...

View from N24 approaching Waterford...




I haven't a clue what's going on in these pictures, I just snapped them:







Where the new N25 mainline will pass over the N24

Bards

The link below might help, as the pics are all part of the roads leading to and from the Grannagh Interchange

http://www.waterfordcity.ie/n25bypass/gallery/large/gr31_large.jpg

fricatus

BluntGuy, let me provide commentary!

No 1 as you said, is the N24 approaching the city - the best view of the bridge I think.
No 2 is where the N9 coming out of the city will cross the old N9, just before the Grannagh interchange. If you're familiar with the area you'll know that the old N9 at that point is closed, so that they can build the bridges carrying the new N9 and the N25 (M25 if we're lucky) over the road.
No 3 is the new raised N9 section which runs more or less parallel to the existing one, between the Newrath roundabout and the Grannagh interchange.
No 4 as you said, is where the new N/M25 will cross the old N24. The N24 had to be lowered for this, which is why you go into a big dip at that point.

Amtmann

Found a very cool video of the bypass on Youtube:

You can just visualise the Suir Bridge all lit up as you approach Waterford from the west. It will be stunning.

BluntGuy

I NEED to drive that road.

Incidentally, see where I took the third picture. I actually went up onto the site. I should've snapped it. I didn't go too far, because it was kinda dangerous, but I remember seeing a red-looking bridge of sorts - I think it was for a railway line. I'm not sure.

Amtmann

I know what you mean! I was thinking of heading to Waterford on Monday to have a gawk, but after all the photos and videos my curiosity is sated for now. When it opens I'll definitely head over that way though. Tis a pity it'll open as an N road.

I want my blue road! :mad:

BluntGuy

Furet wrote: »

I want my blue road! :mad:

Don't let mysterious hear you say that...

I know what you mean, it's an awful waste of fantastic highway. I don't see how it's safe for pedestrians, cyclicts and such...

And there are two massive under-capacity roundabouts at Grannagh just waiting to be developed on.

I really hope this road isn't ruined by the local councillors. Maybe when and if the NRA takes responsibility for regional and local roads it'll get more say in what gets developed - but it won't affect this scheme anyway.

Bards

Check out Post #114 by Flyer1 over in the Waterford City forum

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055148589&page=8

road_high

They're excellent pics. I think I can see Mt. Leinster in the background even

Chris_533976

Great pics, but unfortunately it shows the stupidity of having the toll plaza just before the bridge, the Grannagh interchange (A roundabout junction) on the other side of the bridge and the disgrace that is the roundabout finishing off the M9. It could so easily have been done properly.

Amtmann

Just to give people a sense of how the N25 is at the other end, i.e. Cork, here is a video of some of the south ring and Jack Lynch Tunnel. Note the variable standard of the route (e.g hard shoulder). The Waterford Bypass will be of a far higher standard.

KevR

Cheers for the video Furet!

Great seeing a video of the Cork SRR & the Jack Lynch Tunnel - I haven't been to Cork in a long time (probably 12 years at least). I don't remember a lot of it and a lot of it has probably changed since I was there. I hope to head down to our 2nd city for a day or weekend at some point over the summer - the prospect actually has me more excited than if I were planning a trip abroad!

Amtmann

No bother Kev. I hope it lives up to your expectations! You taking the N18 and N20 down?

KevR

Furet wrote: »

No bother Kev. I hope it lives up to your expectations! You taking the N18 and N20 down?

Yeah N18 and N20 I would say. The new Gort-Crusheen section will probably be open by the time I head down in a couple of months haha.

Amtmann

You won't be using the tunnel so. N20 would be quite a nice road if it was detrunked. Take care on it - some of the bends are deceptively tight!

mike65

Taken last week.

Behind Kilmeaden near Wheelans Bridge 1



Behind Kilmeaden near Wheelans Bridge 2



From overpass at Bawnfawn looking west



From Doonen looking east

Road-Hog

Some new pictures on the Waterford City Council N25 Site....! Particularly around the suir bridge.

Bards

Road-Hog wrote: »

Some new pictures on the Waterford City Council N25 Site....! Particularly around the suir bridge.

Thanks for the update Road hog..

for anyone interested the link is http://www.waterfordcity.ie/n25bypass/gallery.html

Amtmann

RTÉ commission dull programmes about restaurant refurbishment; but when we build beautiful bridges and hundreds of kilometres of motorway that will revolutionise connectivity and transport across the island, it goes right over their heads.

spacetweek

The media needs a milestone to latch onto. Currently the M1 is the only complete motorway in Ireland. The M50 is still a building site and the rest of the roads have missing sections. The N25 Waterford BP is still under construction. It won't be until 2010 that the M6/7/8/9 are all completed within a few months of each other so I would imagine that to be a prudent time for some reportage and documentaries.