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N25 - Waterford City Bypass
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There removeing the cones from the new Sallypark-Newrath DC at the moment so it looks like we have the two lanes there at last! Hopefully will speed up the flow inbound in the mornings.Also, the old Waterford - Limerick road, is that being re-opened at some stage? The green sign has a location that direction blanked out.
I put this pic up on the M9 thread a few weeks ago,given that they have seemed to narrow the road significantly and the clearance with the N25 overhead looks only suitable for vans, I'd hazard a guess the road will just be for local access only from now on.
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alpha2zulu wrote: »There removeing the cones from the new Sallypark-Newrath DC at the moment so it looks like we have the two lanes there at last! Hopefully will speed up the flow inbound in the mornings.
Amount of cars who race up the two lines to the traffic lights and not realise, despite warnings, that the lane stops short is scary. Glad to see it re-open, fingers crossed. Wonder when the section for Limerick/Waterford area will open - hopefully in the next few days.I put this pic up on the M9 thread a few weeks ago,given that they have seemed to narrow the road significantly and the cleaance with the N25 overhead looks only suitable for vans, I'd hazard a guess the road will just be for local access only from now on.
Saw that alright, seems tight even for a van tho.0 -
Amount of cars who race up the two lines to the traffic lights and not realise, despite warnings, that the lane stops short is scary.
The reason people race along there is to get past slow movers. It's the last overtaking opportunity until that big hill outside Ballyhale.
Great to hear that the cones are going!
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The reason people race along there is to get past slow movers. It's the last overtaking opportunity until that big hill outside Ballyhale.
They do it even with a line of traffic you have no hope of passing and tend to break suddenly when the lane closes off. Seems to be a bit of both tbh
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alpha2zulu wrote: »There removeing the cones from the new Sallypark-Newrath DC at the moment so it looks like we have the two lanes there at last! Hopefully will speed up the flow inbound in the mornings.
Great not to have to do the slalom course coming into the city this evening! 0 -
The new bridge and motorway will massively change the traffic patterns in and around Waterford. Here's how I reckon the Grannagh area will look on a regular October morning a year from now. Colours are self explanatory (free flowing, crawling and queueing). Thanks to Munurty for the original pic.
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The new bridge and motorway will massively change the traffic patterns in and around Waterford. Here's how I reckon the Grannagh area will look on a regular October morning a year from now. Colours are self explanatory (free flowing, crawling and queueing). Thanks to Munurty for the original pic.
Have to disagree with some of this especially the queue across the bridge to the toll, the traffic wont be that heavy going across. Also, coming from the city approaching the grade seperated roundabout, i'd make that yellow all the way. Good contributing though, really got me thinking.0 -
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Have to disagree with some of this especially the queue across the bridge to the toll, the traffic wont be that heavy going across.
Yeah, we're not really going to know until it's been open for a while, but I reckon there'll be a queue for the toll in the morning - remember 2-3 km tailbacks into Ferrybank are commonplace.Also, coming from the city approaching the grade seperated roundabout, i'd make that yellow all the way. Good contributing though, really got me thinking.
That's my route in the morning (going from Waterford to Kilkenny), and what sparked this whole idea of mine was when I was imagining how each stretch would be. What I reckon will happen though, is that there will be a lot of inbound traffic coming from the N9 and M24, and a lot of this will be turning right on the Grannagh Interchange towards the bridge. Because this traffic has priority over outbound N9 traffic, I reckon this section will move slowly.
Also, local traffic from Kilmacow and areas between Mullinavat and Waterford that are not served by the M9 will come in towards the Newrath roundabout, and instead of making a right turn towards the city, will turn left to head to the Grannagh Interchange and the new bridge. This will increase the pressure on the N9 outbound between Newrath and the Grannagh Interchange.alpha2zulu wrote: »It will be very interesting to see how much patronage the bridge actually does get in the mornings.
Plenty, I would say. The city is very congested, and people want a hassle-free life. When you think about it, €10 a week is not a lot to pay for 20 minutes extra in bed each morning.alpha2zulu wrote: »I still think the Sallypark approach will see only a negliable improvement. The chances of all the students heading in that way coughing up 1.90 for each trip is rather small I would guess. The chances of having a WITcard discount for example is slim to none I'd say.
Hehe, how times have changed! In my day (early '90s), no students had cars, so I didn't even think of the impact of WIT!alpha2zulu wrote: »I know its extremely immature of me but each time I pass under those amazeing bridge overpass structures across the Grannagh valley, the name Matlock expressway comes to mind!:D
Nah, not immature at all! I do an American accent, "it's ninety degrees in the shade here in Houston this morning..." 0 -
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What is the route to Dublin from the bridge?
Will you have to exit the bypass to head for the City Centre and then go around the roundabout that is currently there back down across the railway crossing and out the current road?
Yes, you will exit the bypass at the Grannagh interchange, head towards the city centre and then at the Newrath roundabout you will take the old Dublin road as at present.For Limerick will you have to do the same or will you exit the bypass and head for Limerick directly via the new roundabout that terminates the M9?
For Limerick you will exit the bypass at the Grannagh interchange, but you'll head the opposite way, and this will take you to the Quarry roundabout, the one where the M9 will terminate. From there, you just take the N24 as at present.Will there be access from this roundabout maybe for the Dublin road?
Not that I'm aware of... although the Kilkenny People reports today that the M9 as far as Danesfort is due to open in late December, so Dublin and KK-bound traffic won't have to go via the Newrath roundabout for very long! 0 -
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http://www.bamppp.com/index.php?lang...&subpage_id=0&
October 20th seems to be the date considering it is a PPP I can't imagine the contractor waiting around for a minister to open the road when there is moeny to be made. - In these recessionary times I am sure any minister would only be too delighted to be associated with a good news story!!
I hope it's true. That's Tuesday 20th so. Can't come soon enough
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Heres just a couple of pics from the Grannagh junction roundabout area this weekend,
Looking west towards the toll plaza:
Looking east towards New Ross/Rosslare:
Approaching from the N24/N9 DC heading inbound to Waterford ,they have managed to squeeze in 3 lanes (just about) with the N25 East lane only as wide as the hard shoulder, the other 2 lanes are labelled R448 and N25 west.
The rest of the pics are just the bridge from a few different angles,
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Theyd want to hurry if they want it open 20th/22nd of October or whenever it is.
Bit of work to be doen with Lines and Signs there around the bridge alright.0 -
A poster on Upthedeise is reporting the bypass opening next Monday 19th October at noon by Minister Cullen.Sorry, security were on bridge removing a group of people so got no access at all
Anybody have any thoughts why security on this project seem so hellbent on not letting any Sunday strollers on the route. Its not just the bridge area where they are sensitive ,I've heard from people out the Slieverue and Kilmeaden side getting asked to leave aswell, whereas on the M9 security are never any bother even though its the same security firm
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alpha2zulu wrote: »A poster on Upthedeise is reporting the bypass opening next Monday 19th October at noon by Minister Cullen.
Anybody have any thoughts why security on this project seem so hellbent on not letting any Sunday strollers on the route. Its not just the bridge area where they are sensitive ,I've heard from people out the Slieverue and Kilmeaden side getting asked to leave aswell, whereas on the M9 security are never any bother even though its the same security firm
One is a PPP and any damage will be bourne by the company, whereas the other is a public so any damage will bo borne by the taxpayer....could be wrong though
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WLRfm is Reporting that Cullen is indeed opening the bypass at 12 noon on Monday, however, it will not be open to traffic until Tuesday0 -
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Does anyone know what speed limit will be for this road?
I would imagine 100 km/h (since it's not a motorway). There will probably be a lower limit in the vicinity of the toll plaza. We'll know for sure on Tuesday though!Will there be Tag lanes at the Toll plaza and if so will any existing tag work?
Check your tag provider's website, but AFAIK, all tags are supposed to work at all toll plazas in the Republic, including any new ones that come on stream, such as the Suir Bridge.
So in short, yes and yes to your questions.0 -
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Thats not the only DC cork have bumped - the Ballincollig Bypass and before it became motorway, the Watergrasshill Bypass were also raised to 120. But then again Cork also has masses of 100km/h R road, they seem to like their speed!
They are dead feckin right! Cork people always seem to have their independent view of rules for the country so I'm not suprised!
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