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N25 - Waterford City Bypass

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  • #152
    fricatus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    Chris_533976 wrote: »
    Since this isnt a motorway, theres really nothing to stop anyone walking this whenever they want.

    The section between the N9 and the Western Link (Outer Ring Road) will be open to motor vehicles only... see post #67:

    Road-Hog wrote: »
    I think you should have a look clauses 8.1 and 8.2 on page 7 of the following document:

    http://www.nra.ie/PublicPrivatePartnership/TollingDocumentation/file,16116,en.pdf

    That's the section comprising the new bridge. Pedestrians, cyclists, etc., can, as you say, quite legally use the section from Kilmeaden to the Western Link, and also the section from the N9 to the old N25 (Slieverue) on the north side.


  • #153
    placard
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    fricatus wrote: »
    Check out Munurty's pictures from the M9 thread: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=61074995&postcount=387
    Excellent pics!!

    Has there been much progress since then?
    Is the Slieverue section tied in with the main roundabout just before the bridge yet?


  • #154
    hudsonriver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭hudsonriver


    fricatus wrote: »
    I heard, though I can't remember where, that the plan is to remove those horrendous pylons up on Bilberry hill and at the golf course on the other side of the river, and run the electricity lines via the new bridge.

    Can anyone confirm?

    thats what I was hoping they where for!


  • #155
    fricatus
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    hudsonriver wrote: »
    thats what I was hoping they where for!

    Steady on! Could still be wishful thinking on my part, but I'd swear I read it on Boards at some point, so maybe my source is out there, lurking! :D

    Can anyone confirm that the horrible pylons are to go, and that the electricity lines are to be run across the new bridge?


  • #156
    Carawaystick
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    fricatus wrote: »
    The section between the N9 and the Western Link (Outer Ring Road) will be open to motor vehicles only... see post #67:




    That's the section comprising the new bridge. Pedestrians, cyclists, etc., can, as you say, quite legally use the section from Kilmeaden to the Western Link, and also the section from the N9 to the old N25 (Slieverue) on the north side.

    clause 2 ses all users of a pubic road can use it subject to statutory limitations. Are byelaws "statutory"

    Also the byelaws claim to ban pedestrians, pedal cyclists and animal drawn vehicles. so there's no ban on using a scooter( those with an engine and those without), using an invalid carrriage or motorised wheelchair, driving animals, riding horses etc on the road.

    There is also no penalty for disregarding the byelaw. So it's actually allowed.


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  • #157
    Roryhy
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    Any updates on this scheme? Been a few weeks since i last heard anything.


  • #158
    fricatus
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    Roryhy wrote: »
    Any updates on this scheme? Been a few weeks since i last heard anything.

    All I've seen is little things day by day. I mostly go out the N9 anyway, so all I'll see is the activity up on the new flyovers, and you can't tell what's going on up there, at least not from down below.

    The N9 dualler from the city out to Newrath is a real pain in the a55 at the moment, with only one lane open in either direction. It's practically finished; what are they waiting for? It's not part of the city bypass but it's being done under that project rather than the M9 project, so presumably all 4 lanes should open around the same time the bridge is opened?


  • #159
    alpha2zulu
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    The N9 dualler from the city out to Newrath is a real pain in the a55 at the moment, with only one lane open in either direction

    Totally agree,its being more or less ready for months with the only visible work being the 2new bustops installed at the Newrath end. In the morning in particular the 2nd lane inbound would help free up the traffic flow. Hopefully that 50 km/h limit will be disappearing along with the cones soon also...

    With that accident on the Quay this morning holding inbound traffic up its great knowing in a few weeks the new brdge will be open for business:D


  • #160
    placard
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    alpha2zulu wrote: »
    Hopefully that 50 km/h limit will be disappearing along with the cones soon also...

    Not likely.. with pedestrian footpaths on both sides of the road it'll stay 50k unfortunately. :(

    I agree that the road cones should go.. no point in having them on the whole stretch up to newrath. Also what's the idea with the zig zagging from one lane to another.. I think someone's having a laugh!! ;)


  • #161
    alpha2zulu
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    Not likely.. with pedestrian footpaths on both sides of the road it'll stay 50k unfortunately. :(

    I notice though that the new link road from the Newrath roundabout to the golf links road is 80km/h with footpaths either side also so fingers crossed the same thinking will happen with the Sallypark DC, although I wont be holding my breath.
    I


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  • #162
    Roryhy
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    Found this picture of the bridge and thought i'd share it-
    www.flickr.com/photos/29223096@N03/3814979584/
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    spaceball.gif


  • #163
    deiseman21
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭deiseman21


    dont know if has been said before, but the regularity of the updates on the bypass website have been nothing more than atrocious at best. Although the quality of the gallery section has been good in fairness.


  • #164
    Sully
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    Right well myself and stick-dan started at Grannagh and then headed to Mulinavat. Our plan is to go as far as Carlow at least over the next week or so. We were not allowed down to the bridge, security said they were working on it. See them all here: http://pix.ie/sully/album/354601

    FC573B7745034CE1A636B8A4B894FB69-500.jpg
    The new min-bridge that goes over the old Waterford to Limerick Road.

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    Just beyond the bridge to the new roundabout.

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    New roundabout

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    Towards Waterford

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    On that Limerick Road, just in a little garden the above photo was taken of the bridge.


  • #165
    fricatus
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    NedNew reports in another thread that the bypass is due to open on 20 October:
    NedNew wrote: »
    I heard yesterday that this will open on October 20th.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=62094488#post62094488

    At last, a concrete date, and one that seems quite plausible. Anyone got confirmation or source?


  • #166
    BluntGuy
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    fricatus wrote: »
    At last, a concrete date, and one that seems quite plausible. Anyone got confirmation or source?


    I just gave the site office a call, they say "before the end of the year". I mentioned the October 20th date, and they replied that there's "a lot of dates being branded about".

    So I don't know, it could be October 20th, but I don't think they've decided on anything concrete yet.

    Judging from what I saw last time I was up there, I'd wager it'll be open in early-mid November.


  • #167
    placard
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    Any ideas when the bridge walk is taking place? :confused:


  • #168
    Bards
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    Interesting article regarding the construction of the Suir Cable-stay bridge (Pages 12 to 17) from Irish Concrete

    http://www.irishconcrete.ie/uploadedFiles/Irish_Concrete_Federation/Concrete%20Today%20June%2009.pdf


  • #169
    Carawaystick
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    That's a quality article bards.


  • #170
    placard
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    I heard that the bridge will be open to traffic in 4 weeks time. So October 20thish is looking more and more likely for a partial opening at least.
    Bards, Interesting article regarding the construction of the Suir Cable-stay bridge (Pages 12 to 17) from Irish Concrete

    http://www.irishconcrete.ie/uploaded...0June%2009.pdf
    Good article, the project stats at the end give a good indication of the huge amount of work that was involved in the bypass i.e. over 60 structures!!


  • #171
    road_high
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    Any updates on possible opening dates ?


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  • #172
    Bards
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    mfitzy wrote: »
    Any updates on possible opening dates ?

    October 20th seems to be the date that is being touted


  • #173
    Munurty
    Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭Munurty


    The massive tower crane that built the suir bridge is being taken down today.

    The n25 Waterford bypass is about to change from a constuction project into a finished road. We'll proabably look back and wonder how Waterford ever managed with only one bridge.


  • #174
    Chris_533976
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    I'd be interested to see how New Ross copes now that the bottleneck of Waterford will be gone.

    Also I want to see the New Ross bridge built as it'll probably be more spectacular than the Waterford one :D


  • #175
    fricatus
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    Chris_533976 wrote: »
    I'd be interested to see how New Ross copes now that the bottleneck of Waterford will be gone.

    Most of the delays in New Ross are caused by Waterford-bound commuter traffic from south Wexford. I doubt there'll be any change really.

    Chris_533976 wrote: »
    Also I want to see the New Ross bridge built as it'll probably be more spectacular than the Waterford one :D

    It will apparently be longer than the Waterford one all right, but will it be as impressive? Hehe, that's one for debate. Still though, it will be pretty cool to drive the eastern bit of the N25 then.


  • #176
    wellbutty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭wellbutty


    Some photos of the crane being dismantled this morning:


  • #177
    wellbutty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭wellbutty


    And some more


  • #178
    ForiegnNational
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    Slightly off-track (excuse the pun), but does anybody know if the Waterford and Suir Valley railway has been able to open up the section of line that was taken over by the development of the Waterford bypass?

    I took the kids there earlier this year and they were hopeful of getting the track back to be able to re-lay their line at the end of the summer.


  • #179
    mike65
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    I wonder if they'll paint the concrete.


  • #180
    Bards
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    ForiegnNational wrote: »
    Slightly off-track (excuse the pun), but does anybody know if the Waterford and Suir Valley railway has been able to open up the section of line that was taken over by the development of the Waterford bypass?

    I took the kids there earlier this year and they were hopeful of getting the track back to be able to re-lay their line at the end of the summer.

    was on it last Sunday, and they say it will be open for next season (April 2010)


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  • #181
    Bards
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    mike65 wrote: »
    I wonder if they'll paint the concrete.

    doubt it, If they paint once, they'll have to maintain it yearly otherwise it will look crap once the paint wears away


  • #182
    Bards
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    1st official date from the contractor is October 20th for Contract Handover. Will it actually open on this date is anyone's guess?

    http://www.bamppp.com/index.php?language_id=1&page_id=125&subpage_id=0&


  • #183
    fricatus
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    Bards wrote: »
    1st official date from the contractor is October 20th for Contract Handover. Will it actually open on this date is anyone's guess?

    http://www.bamppp.com/index.php?language_id=1&page_id=125&subpage_id=0&

    I note that the concession is due to run until 2036. Does this mean that I'll be able to drive across it for free in my hydrogen/fuel cell-powered hover car when I'm 63? :D

    Came in the Limerick side yesterday and it was great to see blue signs (albeit with the destinations of Dublin and Kilkenny covered over with grey goo) at long last!

    I noticed that the big sign approaching the Grannagh Interchange from that side directs hospital and airport traffic (with little icons) over the new bridge, but I'm surprised that there's nothing there telling traffic going to the west of the city to take the new bridge. They have that sort of thing on the approaches to Galway and Cork, and it makes sense to do the same in Waterford, since traffic for Ballybeg, Lisduggan, Cleaboy, WIT etc. would be much better off going across the new bridge.

    There's another big sign too, a brown one with a schematic of the junction, pointing straight on for Waterford Treasures and Waterford Crystal. I can't put my finger on why, but it just looks odd.

    Maybe if someone is passing by that way today with a camera, they could take a picture and post it?


  • #184
    BluntGuy
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    fricatus wrote: »
    I note that the concession is due to run until 2036. Does this mean that I'll be able to drive across it for free in my hydrogen/fuel cell-powered hover car when I'm 63? :D

    You're probably making other forum members feel incredibly old now. :D

    And probably not... the FF government of the future will find a way to screw that up.
    Came in the Limerick side yesterday and it was great to see blue signs (albeit with the destinations of Dublin and Kilkenny covered over with grey goo) at long last!

    I imagine it was. 'Twoud've been even sweeter to see blue "M25" signs as well though.


  • #185
    fricatus
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    BluntGuy wrote: »
    You're probably making other forum members feel incredibly old now. :D

    Hey now! Read the bit in the forum charter about "ageism"! Damn it! You young whippersnappers deleted it! Now where are my false teeth...? :D

    BluntGuy wrote: »
    I imagine it was. 'Twoud've been even sweeter to see blue "M25" signs as well though.

    You said it... although maybe the reason they didn't redesignate it motorway is that it would confuse the English lads coming off the ferry - "oi mate, I fought we wuz in Ireland, but it sez 'ere, "M25"... Dasen't look loike Lahndan though..." :D


  • #186
    alpha2zulu
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    Just coming into Waterford on the Newrath/Sallypark new Dual carraigeway this evening, I noticed that the new "Welcome to Waterford City" sign which had been up for the past couple of weeks has been blanked out with that gray spary paint they have used on the other new signs in the area.

    Would it be unfair to suggest it has anything to do with Kilkenny CoCo getting upset since the sign technically is about a mile inside Co.Kilkenny...anything is possible in that neck of the woods.:D


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  • #187
    fricatus
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    alpha2zulu wrote: »
    Just coming into Waterford on the Newrath/Sallypark new Dual carraigeway this evening, I noticed that the new "Welcome to Waterford City" sign which had been up for the past couple of weeks has been blanked out with that gray spary paint they have used on the other new signs in the area.

    Would it be unfair to suggest it has anything to do with Kilkenny CoCo getting upset since the sign technically is about a mile inside Co.Kilkenny...anything is possible in that neck of the woods.:D

    Oh I betcha it has everything to do with some beetroot-faced, Guinness-swilling councillor getting his knickers in a twist and making an angry phone call to the project office.

    I swear, cross the river and they're bloody worse than the Unionists! :mad:

    I'll save my rant for when somebody confirms our suspicions, but there's no smoke without fire!


  • #188
    Road-Hog
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    fricatus wrote: »
    Oh I betcha it has everything to do with some beetroot-faced, Guinness-swilling councillor getting his knickers in a twist and making an angry phone call to the project office.

    I swear, cross the river and they're bloody worse than the Unionists! :mad:

    I'll save my rant for when somebody confirms our suspicions, but there's no smoke without fire!

    From my ever reliable source on the bypass project the blanking out of the sign with the spray paint has everything to do with angry complaints from locals and kk councillors, sign is approximately 750m within the KK boundary I'm told, I wonder would a welcome to KK sign just across the existing Rice bridge result in a similar result from the Waterford folks?


  • #189
    mike65
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    Nope, the sign would say

    County Kilkenny ahead
    You are Leaving Civilisation, please lock your doors


  • #190
    alpha2zulu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭alpha2zulu


    Well i'm not
    some beetroot-faced, Guinness-swilling councillor getting his knickers in a twist
    :D but I can kind of seen where my fellow countymen (and women) are coming from.

    It is a little bit cheeky having the sign there aswell as the "City Centre" sign on the Newrath roundabout while were on the subject! Kilkenny City is in the totally opposite direction.
    Nope, the sign would say

    County Kilkenny ahead
    You are Leaving Civilisation, please lock your doors

    I was thinking more like :

    County Kilkenny ahead
    You are now leaving East Germany...
    or something to that effect:p


  • #191
    Amtmann
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    Counties schmounties. They're the most ridiculous polities in the country. Why anyone has any allegiance to any of them outside of the GAA I'll never know.


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  • #192
    fricatus
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    Road-Hog wrote: »
    From my ever reliable source on the bypass project the blanking out of the sign with the spray paint has everything to do with angry complaints from locals and kk councillors, sign is approximately 750m within the KK boundary I'm told, I wonder would a welcome to KK sign just across the existing Rice bridge result in a similar result from the Waterford folks?

    Oh for God's sake, who gives a toss where the boundary is??? The road is an approach road to Waterford city and after you pass the sign, 10 seconds and you round the bend and the city is in front of you.

    These stupid, parochial two-bit councillors - they're not so bleeding quick into action when anything actually useful needs to be done, are they? And the locals? They're born, educated, live, work, socialise and die in Waterford for crying out loud! I frankly don't care what county they shout for on the hurling field, but giving out about a sign welcoming people to the city? They're not too pigging black-and-amber to refuse a job across the river though, are they?

    Fcuking idiots! The country is going to hell in a handcart and they're getting their knickers in a knot over a stupid sign! I bet not one of them complained about NAMA and the government wasting €54bn of our money, but when someone dares erect a sign in the wrong place, they're on "dat sign shudden't be dere, cos dat's Kilkenny boy, not Wauerford..."

    Fools! :mad:


  • #193
    mike65
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    Jebus! I can see the day when the order goes out -

    "BLOW THE BRIDGES!" :pac:


  • #194
    fricatus
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    alpha2zulu wrote: »
    It is a little bit cheeky having the sign there aswell as the "City Centre" sign on the Newrath roundabout while were on the subject! Kilkenny City is in the totally opposite direction.

    I'm out in my shed, making a "Town Centre - 30 km" sign for you at the moment. :P


  • #195
    Bards
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    ....saw it too and it reminded me of the Waterford sign that used to be at the old grannagh flat pancake of a roundabout. lasted less then two weeks before it was replaced with Granny after complaints by a certain Cllr who lives in Newrath but works as a school teacher in Waterford


  • #196
    fricatus
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    Furet wrote: »
    Counties schmounties. They're the most ridiculous polities in the country. Why anyone has any allegiance to any of them outside of the GAA I'll never know.

    Couldn't agree more. We should create council areas that reflect the hinterlands of our 12 or so main towns and cities. Their boundaries should run through rural areas and through mountain ranges and so on.

    Having two and three councils in relatively small urban areas such as Waterford, Limerick, Athlone, Carlow, etc., because some British royal servant 300 years ago decreed that some river should form a boundary, is just pure ridiculous.

    I enjoy the GAA related banter as much as the next fella, but having council areas that coincide with sporting rivalries is just a recipe for disaster.


  • #197
    road_high
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    Road-Hog wrote: »
    From my ever reliable source on the bypass project the blanking out of the sign with the spray paint has everything to do with angry complaints from locals and kk councillors, sign is approximately 750m within the KK boundary I'm told, I wonder would a welcome to KK sign just across the existing Rice bridge result in a similar result from the Waterford folks?

    Are you serious? i never heard such non-sense. Pure logic would suggest that the City Centre signed be placed at strategic points on the new road. A few gombeens should not dictate National road signage imo.


  • #198
    road_high
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    fricatus wrote: »

    I enjoy the GAA related banter as much as the next fella, but having council areas that coincide with sporting rivalries is just a recipe for disaster.

    I have to agree with you but it is very hard to go against the system we have had. County boundaries are ingrained in people's subconciousness (myself included btw) and as you the sporting rivalries (Kilkenny vs Waterford for instance) reinforce these no end.


  • #199
    serfboard
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    fricatus wrote: »
    Couldn't agree more. We should create council areas that reflect the hinterlands of our 12 or so main towns and cities. Their boundaries should run through rural areas and through mountain ranges and so on.

    Wow ... not even McCarthy went that far :) He just wants to amalgamate city and county councils in places like Waterford, Limerick and Galway and, naturally, the councillors are up in arms over that one!


  • #200
    alpha2zulu
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    Out on the South Kilkenny side of the project,it looks like Limerick-Waterford N24 traffic is going to be directed up on to the new raised DC between the Newrath and Grannagh Junction roundabouts within the next few days,presumeably to allow that short 10metre link onto the Kilmacow Road to be blocked off

    The Lagan guys were busy line painting this section this morning and the signs approaching the Grannagh Juction roundabout on the Limerick side are indicating this also.

    Hopefully it will at least relieve the pressure on that awful awful blind roundabout where the Dublin and Limerick traffic meets currently.


  • #201
    Sully
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    Was out that way today. Found it odd the signs indicated Waterford Crystal still, considering that seems on the way out (what little we have left). Also, the old Waterford - Limerick road, is that being re-opened at some stage? The green sign has a location that direction blanked out.


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