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Garda Allowances

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  • 25-09-2009 4:31pm
    #1
    bringingitall
    Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭


    BASIC
    + shift allowance
    + rent allowance tax free(€4,160)
    + uniform allowance
    + boot allowance
    + away from station for the day allowance(airport passport guys + other moving prisoners from x to y)
    + overtime(easily availible, perhaps reduced now)
    + handy days standing around croke park (€200euro from what i'm told)
    + scheduling a ten minute court appearance on your day off knowing that you'll get paid for the minimum 5hours you get under union agreements that state you must be paid this minimum time regardless of your actual time worked(been told first hand about this)
    +Garda credit union(cheap loans how many apartments have you rented from Garda i've been in 3 apartments all owned by garda in the last 5 years, 3 friends have garda landlords)
    +health insurance for you and married partner
    + if put on clerical duty(9-5) an allowance to compensate you for the allowances your missing by not working unsocial hours
    + while on holiday pay an allowance to cover the overtime/allowance you could have potentiallly got if you weren't on the beach basically unsocial hours work allowance even though your not in
    + plain clothes allowance, if your plain clothes garda to buy your own clothes
    +Gaeltacht Allowance and Aran Island Allowance
    + retire @ 50 with full pension(lump sum+payments)

    What these cost the exchequer. Bear in mind it costs €4m to vaccinate young girls against cervical cancer and the goverment won't pay it.

    Cost:
    Rent allowance costs €58 million Its paid to every member up to and including superintendent.

    Premium Payments (€9.07m) Paid to those on holiday who would normally be eligible for unsociable hours allowance.

    Clerical Allowance (€2.07m) paid to cops doing paperwork to make up for the allowances they are loosing out on because they are basically clerical staff.

    Gaeltacht Allowance and Aran Island Allowance (€1.2m) (its value is 7.5 per cent of basic pay)

    Uniform Grant and Allowance and Boot Allowance (€5.4 m)

    Plain Clothes Allowance (€1.9m)

    Non-Public Duty Allowances (€1.7m)

    Source:
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...250847395.html


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    #2
    Fizman
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    You probably should have become a cop then.


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    #3
    msg11
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    Seems like a great job. Which I had plain cloths allowance !


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    #4
    Mena
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    Which of these mindless copy/paste posts do you want responses to? This one, or the ones you've dumped in other fora?


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    Kingp35
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    Wouldn't be as bad if they were any use at their jobs!


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    Ruu_Old
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    Good for them.


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    3fullback
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    Gardai do a great job and are very hard working.
    They have to deal with murders, suicide , rape and just about every other thing thats detroying our country . There is'nt too many of us that have them kind of things in our 9-5 jobs ! Any few pence they get for going to court or uniform is well earned.I Dont see to many jobs where you have to tell Parents that the 17 year old son has died in a traffic accident.

    Now, leave the gards alone there not the people who got us into this mess and by taking away the few pence spent on allowance wont get us out of it either.

    Its the Bankers, Developers , Politians, these are the people who should be attacked and ripped of everything there worth.


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    Overheal
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    A Police Force is similar in structure to a Military Force beside the very obvious and very important difference of jurisdiction. Military Personnel get a slew of similar benefits. Same with the Coast Guard.

    Can't blame the Gardai on this one. You want your 4 million Euro? I hear it went to the Fas executive travel budget. Go gettim'.


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    Local-womanizer
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    Overheal wrote: »
    A Police Force is similar in structure to a Military Force beside the very obvious and very important difference of jurisdiction. Military Personnel get a slew of similar benefits. Same with the Coast Guard.

    Can't blame the Gardai on this one. You want your 4 million Euro? I hear it went to the Fas executive travel budget. Go gettim'.

    Exactly.

    Its not a simple job either,they put up with alot of sh1t from ungreatful membes of the public.Just imagine how bad it would be if we dident have a police force.


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    max_power
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    Their basic starting pay is pretty **** from what I recall. The job i'd say varies from being boring and mundane to horribly tough. Begrudge much?


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    #11
    Relevant
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    bringingitall wrote: »
    BASIC
    + shift allowance
    bringingitall wrote: »
    + rent allowance tax free(€4,160)
    The Gardai can be asked to work anywhere in the country/can be relocated. Hence the allowance
    bringingitall wrote: »
    + uniform allowance
    They are required to wear a uniform to work. This can get wrecked when climbing over fences, gettng spat at, puked on, dragged out of.
    bringingitall wrote: »
    + boot allowance

    See uniform allowance.
    bringingitall wrote: »
    + away from station for the day allowance(airport passport guys + other moving prisoners from x to y)
    Expenses will be incurred when out of the office in any job, lunch etc. That is the same in any job
    bringingitall wrote: »
    + overtime(easily availible, perhaps reduced now)
    Ah now c'mon. People deserve to get extra pay for extra work
    bringingitall wrote: »
    + handy days standing around croke park (€200euro from what i'm told)
    They are paid normally afaik, there is however a charge to the GAA
    bringingitall wrote: »

    + scheduling a ten minute court appearance on your day off knowing that you'll get paid for the minimum 5hours you get under union agreements that state you must be paid this minimum time regardless of your actual time worked(been told first hand about this)

    Or on the other hand, being summonsed to court on days off or after working all night and having to sit around all day waiting for your case to be called
    bringingitall wrote: »
    +Garda credit union(cheap loans how many apartments have you rented from Garda i've been in 3 apartments all owned by garda in the last 5 years, 3 friends have garda landlords)

    There is a credit union. Not the only organisation with this.
    bringingitall wrote: »
    +health insurance for you and married partner
    There is medical insurance. Not the only organisation with this. It is important that our police force are healthy
    bringingitall wrote: »
    + if put on clerical duty(9-5) an allowance to compensate you for the allowances your missing by not working unsocial hours

    Genuinely don't know this one.
    bringingitall wrote: »

    + while on holiday pay an allowance to cover the overtime/allowance you could have potentiallly got if you weren't on the beach basically unsocial hours work allowance even though your not in
    You get holiday pay which is commesuarate to the hours you work in all jobs. If you get 500 basic plus 200 allowances a week you deserve the same in holiday pay.
    bringingitall wrote: »

    + plain clothes allowance, if your plain clothes garda to buy your own clothes

    Same as uniform allowance. Your clothes would get wrecked as a gard. Suits for court, then also clothes to go chasing through fields, over walls, spat at, puked on.
    bringingitall wrote: »
    +Gaeltacht Allowance and Aran Island Allowance
    Don't know thing about it


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    murf313
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    3fullback wrote: »
    Gardai do a great job and are very hard working.
    They have to deal with murders, suicide , rape and just about every other thing thats detroying our country . There is'nt too many of us that have them kind of things in our 9-5 jobs ! Any few pence they get for going to court or uniform is well earned.I Dont see to many jobs where you have to tell Parents that the 17 year old son has died in a traffic accident.

    Now, leave the gards alone there not the people who got us into this mess and by taking away the few pence spent on allowance wont get us out of it either.

    Its the Bankers, Developers , Politians, these are the people who should be attacked and ripped of everything there worth.

    well said.... im sick of all this moaning about garda getting this allowance and that allowance. they deserve every penny of it its a difficult job!

    (im not a garda by the way)


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    Jesus Wept
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    Don't forget donut allowance.
    mmmm.


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    Jumpy
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    Local-womanizer wrote: »
    Just imagine how bad it would be if we dident have a police force.

    We dont.


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    sdanseo
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    Yet another Garda bashing thread, or another Civil Servant bashing thread. End of the day they make the country work, if we reduced their pay productivity would sink like a stone. Gardaí of all CS deserve the cash they get and then some. They're efficient and I can tell you they work damn hard, my Dad (not a Garda, but a Civil Servant) is paid for 9 hours a day and works about 12 with no overtime anymore, and doesn't complain about it either.

    Just to mention - the uniform and boot allowances above are under a tenner a week combine IIRC.

    Go back under the rock you came from, OP.

    *yawn*


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    #16
    Overheal
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    ^ yep.

    Theres muppets in the military too. But we dont usually scream at them trying to pay them in pennies and lint - we just want them ot of Iraq. Nevermind everybody I see pulling out of the AFB here in Charleston @ 5PM is driving new 09 Hummers and Lincolns and Mercedes but Damned if they dont deserve it. I'd want a beamer too if I was getting paid to be shot at.


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    #17
    bigeasyeah
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    Ara feck off.The Gardai do more than you think.I thought most people grew out of putting down the Gardai to seen cool and edgey.


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    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    bringingitall wrote: »
    BASIC
    + shift allowance
    + rent allowance tax free(€4,160)
    + uniform allowance
    + boot allowance
    + away from station for the day allowance(airport passport guys + other moving prisoners from x to y)
    + overtime(easily availible, perhaps reduced now)
    + handy days standing around croke park (€200euro from what i'm told)
    + scheduling a ten minute court appearance on your day off knowing that you'll get paid for the minimum 5hours you get under union agreements that state you must be paid this minimum time regardless of your actual time worked(been told first hand about this)
    +Garda credit union(cheap loans how many apartments have you rented from Garda i've been in 3 apartments all owned by garda in the last 5 years, 3 friends have garda landlords)
    +health insurance for you and married partner
    + if put on clerical duty(9-5) an allowance to compensate you for the allowances your missing by not working unsocial hours
    + while on holiday pay an allowance to cover the overtime/allowance you could have potentiallly got if you weren't on the beach basically unsocial hours work allowance even though your not in
    + plain clothes allowance, if your plain clothes garda to buy your own clothes
    +Gaeltacht Allowance and Aran Island Allowance

    Why don't you join them if the pay is so good?
    Are you busy at the moment?
    bringingitall wrote: »
    Went to dole office today to apply have to go to meeting next week with some rep. from the dole office

    What will this meeting involve

    and will i be paid from the day i started my claim

    From here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055607584


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    murf313
    Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭murf313


    Ha, that says it all. He's happy to take money of the government for sitting on his hole but the hard working garda are money sucking bogeymen because they get a few allowances!


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    Jumpy
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    bigeasyeah wrote: »
    Ara feck off.The Gardai do more than you think.I thought most people grew out of putting down the Gardai to seen cool and edgey.

    Maybe more than what I think, but not enough.

    Im already cool and edgy, I dont need to put down the Gardai to look it.


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    stovelid
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    While I'm not an unthinking fan of the police by any means, there is something to be said for making it a relatively well-paid profession. Not only because of the danger that a lot of lot of unarmed Garda face, but to try and prevent the temptation for financial wrong-doing that you might see if we saw people working in positions of power but on really bad pay.

    That said, I'd wish people would assign the same respect and importance to jobs like nursing, teaching, crèche-work and social care. Jobs that are pretty important, but perhaps not as glamorous as police work.


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    murf313
    Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭murf313


    stovelid wrote: »
    While I'm not an unthinking fan of the police by any means, there is something to be said for making it a relatively well-paid profession. Not only because of the danger that a lot of lot of unarmed Garda face, but to try and prevent the temptation for financial wrong-doing that you might see if we saw people working in positions of power but on really bad pay.

    That said, I'd wish people would assign the same respect and importance to jobs like nursing, teaching, crèche-work and social care. Jobs that are pretty important, but perhaps not as glamorous as police work.

    i agree, people are baying for these peoples blood just because they are public servants. its disgraceful...... typical irish begrudgery.

    paramedics, firefighters, nurses, soldiers, teachers etc are all stressfull proffesions and they deserve the money they get.


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    Relevant
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    stovelid wrote: »

    That said, I'd wish people would assign the same respect and importance to jobs like nursing, teaching, crèche-work and social care. Jobs that are pretty important, but perhaps not as glamorous as police work.
    I'll give you nursing & social care. Maybe teaching, but i find it hard to include cheche work in the same boat as the rest


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    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
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    What people seem to miss when they /rage is the constant danger a Garda and his/her family are in. The traumatic events they come accross...

    I have a few mates in the force, one of them pulled a dead body out of a river in her second week on the beat. She then had to tell the dead mans mother what happened. Gardai do not get paid enough for the horrible job they have to do. The scum they have to deal with and the ignorant public who think the Guards are lazy useless drains on the countries coffers.

    The money you post there op, not all gardai get it all the time. Stop blowing it out of proportion.


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    Rob67
    Registered Users Posts: 217 ✭✭Rob67


    Overheal wrote: »
    A Police Force is similar in structure to a Military Force beside the very obvious and very important difference of jurisdiction. Military Personnel get a slew of similar benefits. Same with the Coast Guard.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, no they don't. Not entitled to hold more than one allowance, on a continual basis, at a time. There are allowances paid for when a specific duty is carried out, such as security duty allowance, but that is only paid when the duty is done outside normal working hours. Neither is overtime paid to DF, nor clothing, nor rent, nor uniform allowances (except officers).

    If they did pay all those allowances, I would never have left!!:D
    (Of course, I am referring to the IRISH ARMY not the... US ARMY!)


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    Terrontress
    Registered Users Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    bringingitall wrote: »
    BASIC
    + shift allowance
    + rent allowance tax free(€4,160)
    + uniform allowance
    + boot allowance
    + away from station for the day allowance(airport passport guys + other moving prisoners from x to y)
    + overtime(easily availible, perhaps reduced now)
    + handy days standing around croke park (€200euro from what i'm told)
    + scheduling a ten minute court appearance on your day off knowing that you'll get paid for the minimum 5hours you get under union agreements that state you must be paid this minimum time regardless of your actual time worked(been told first hand about this)
    +Garda credit union(cheap loans how many apartments have you rented from Garda i've been in 3 apartments all owned by garda in the last 5 years, 3 friends have garda landlords)
    +health insurance for you and married partner
    + if put on clerical duty(9-5) an allowance to compensate you for the allowances your missing by not working unsocial hours
    + while on holiday pay an allowance to cover the overtime/allowance you could have potentiallly got if you weren't on the beach basically unsocial hours work allowance even though your not in
    + plain clothes allowance, if your plain clothes garda to buy your own clothes
    +Gaeltacht Allowance and Aran Island Allowance

    What these cost the exchequer. Bear in mind it costs €4m to vaccinate young girls against cervical cancer and the goverment won't pay it.

    Cost:
    Rent allowance costs €58 million Its paid to every member up to and including superintendent.

    Premium Payments (€9.07m) Paid to those on holiday who would normally be eligible for unsociable hours allowance.

    Clerical Allowance (€2.07m) paid to cops doing paperwork to make up for the allowances they are loosing out on because they are basically clerical staff.

    Gaeltacht Allowance and Aran Island Allowance (€1.2m) (its value is 7.5 per cent of basic pay)

    Uniform Grant and Allowance and Boot Allowance (€5.4 m)

    Plain Clothes Allowance (€1.9m)

    Non-Public Duty Allowances (€1.7m)

    Source:
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...250847395.html

    Would you be happier if the Gardai got that included in their basic salary without classing it as expenses?

    It doesn't matter what it is classed as. Salary, wages or expenses. All that matters is € in the pocket at the end of the month.


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    bringingitall
    Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭bringingitall


    oh yeah forgot you can retire at fifty as well with full pension(lump sum + payments)!!!!

    and watch all your gaffs in Rathmines bring in a pretty penny in rent

    or perhaps start a bouncy castle business like alot do that i know


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    bringingitall
    Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭bringingitall


    not forgetting you barely need a leaving cert for the job

    and its statistically more dangerous working on a building site than being a guard


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    #29
    Orla K
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    They are worth every penny and they should also get some thanks every now and again.

    I know afew people in the gardai
    -One ran into a house with an armed (probably drugged up) guy, he didn't get a medal for it (some other gardai that ran into the house did) only because he was in the special forces (they carry a gun).
    -One had to arrest a mother and daughter, for prositution and they spat, scratched and bit while getting arrested.
    -One found a dead woman that had been half eaten (by animals not people)
    -My cousin, in the past few weeks jumped into a river to save a guy that tried to drown himself.

    I just typed this out because I wanted to tell people about my cousin, his father was saying what a strong swimmer he was and so on but, I'm better:D (we had a race)


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    Terrontress
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    bringingitall wrote: »
    oh yeah forgot you can retire at fifty as well with full pension(lump sum + payments)!!!!

    and watch all your gaffs in Rathmines bring in a pretty penny in rent

    or perhaps start a bouncy castle business like alot do that i know

    I am sure that all Gardai can't wait to retire so they can set up their bouncey castle businesses. Half of them aren't interested in fighting crime. Just put in 30 years of dealing with the lowest of the low to save enough to get a generator, air compressor, castle and a transit van to lug it around in.

    It's a common desire.


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    #31
    keizer
    Registered Users Posts: 215 ✭✭keizer


    You would swear the medical insurance and credit unions were free!

    These have nothing to do with the organisation only that you must be in the organisation as they were founded by Gardaí for Gardaí and their families - not set up as part of the organisation.

    The health cover is almost €25 per week for a single adult.


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