Stores opening or re-opening in Sligo

jimmmy · 15-07-2009 3:31pm

magnumlady wrote: »

I think the planning rule for Carraroe needs to be changed and quickly..

two bad decisions will not make a good one. As some germans said to me recently, when they saw the newly created sprawl half way between Sligo and Ballisodare ( as viewed from the top of Knocknarea ) "zat vould not be allowed in Germany ...it should be bulldozed and made green again !"

magnumlady wrote: »

They need to look at Carrick put a supermarket there (any supermarket) and try and revive the retail park..

There is a supermarket in Carrick

magnumlady wrote: »

It's a crying shame to see all the empty units.

all over the country there are empty units in every town. No need to build more town centres half an hours walk from existing town centres.

Anyway this thread is about stores opening or re-opening, lets not derail the discussion too much. I hope plenty of stores open / re-open.

magnumlady · 15-07-2009 3:44pm

I'm not saying build anymore units Jimmmy. I'm saying use some of the existing ones for a supermarket.
By mentioning Carrick I know there is a supermarket there, that's why Sligo need to do the same.
Carrick is thriving....Sligo isn't.

jimmmy · 15-07-2009 3:52pm

magnumlady wrote: »

I'm not saying build anymore units Jimmmy. I'm saying use some of the existing ones for a supermarket.

It will never happen in Carraroe, half an hours walk from the existing town centre....otherwise developers would be building on every green field a few miles from every town centre in the country + making new town centres ! Some respect has to be kept for county development plans....which are very detailed and informative publications which experts and those responsible spent years establishing.

darealtulip · 15-07-2009 4:43pm

jimmmy wrote: »

Of course I remember my own posts. Show me what you mean by your statement "Glad you adjusted your locations of M&S though." ?

either you don't want to understand or you really don't know what you post.

bobcar61 · 15-07-2009 4:54pm

jimmmy wrote: »

Ret assured nobody turned down M+S coming to Sligo...in fact M+S would be welcomed with open arms if it ever came to Sligo.

Actually they were turned down, they wanted to open in the Retail Park but the chamber said no. I take it that means they were turned down. Do you?

magnumlady · 15-07-2009 5:35pm

jimmmy wrote: »

It will never happen in Carraroe, half an hours walk from the existing town centre....otherwise developers would be building on every green field a few miles from every town centre in the country + making new town centres ! Some respect has to be kept for county development plans....which are very detailed and informative publications which experts and those responsible spent years establishing.

Same old argument Jimmmy.
How come Carrick retail park is doing so well then and it's not in the town?
Same could be said for Longfords Lidl and Argos....not in the town either.

jimmmy · 15-07-2009 5:49pm

darealtulip wrote: »

either you don't want to understand or you really don't know what you post.

With due respect, your statement ""Glad you adjusted your locations of M&S though." does not make sense in the English language, and you have failed to explain what you mean.

jimmmy · 15-07-2009 5:51pm

magnumlady wrote: »

Same old argument Jimmmy.
How come Carrick retail park is doing so well then and it's not in the town?

Its a lot closer to the town centre / the main thoughfare through the town ( the N4 Sligo/Dublin road ) than Carraroe retail park is to Sligo town centre.

bobcar61 · 15-07-2009 5:52pm

jimmmy wrote: »

With due respect, your statement ""Glad you adjusted your locations of M&S though." does not make sense in the English language, and you have failed to explain what you mean.

I knew what he was sayin and I don't speak Dutch:D So it must have been in English.

jimmmy · 15-07-2009 5:56pm

bobcar61 wrote: »

Actually they were turned down,

By the Borough Council presumably, as it would contravene planning laws and the county Development plan. Quite correct if M+S did look to open in the Carroe warehouse park, which I doubt in the first place.

bobcar61 wrote: »

they wanted to open in the Retail Park

Half the park has closed down, I am sure M+S are wise enough to see it has failed to attract the crowds. Besides, in other towns of 19,000 people , M+S do not locate a few miles away from the town centre.

bobcar61 wrote: »

but the chamber said no.

The chamber are not the ones to decide.

jimmmy · 15-07-2009 5:58pm

bobcar61 wrote: »

I knew what he was sayin and I don't speak Dutch:D So it must have been in English.

Well maybe you can explain it so as my locations of M+S were always adjusted the same ! ( to use his/her terminology ! )

darealtulip · 15-07-2009 10:49pm

jimmmy wrote: »

With due respect, your statement ""Glad you adjusted your locations of M&S though." does not make sense in the English language, and you have failed to explain what you mean.

I'm not going to explain myself any further to you. You are talking about the same thing in 3 threads now, so check them and find out.

AlmightyCushion · 15-07-2009 10:51pm

Heard about the new furniture store. I think it's meant to be set up by the same guys who owned land of leather.

bobcar61 · 16-07-2009 2:06am

M&S don't just set up in the town centre. Town Centre of Enniskillen would be main street, M&S also located at the retail park in Lisburn, retail park in Omagh and Liffey Valley( which is nowhere near walking distance from Dublin City Centre)
Back to things that are opening in Sligo...any others?

jimmmy · 16-07-2009 10:17am

bobcar61 wrote: »

M&S don't just set up in the town centre. Town Centre of Enniskillen would be main street,.....

They set up within walking distance of urban centres, especially if they go to smaller cities / large towns. They do not set up in warehouse type parks a few miles from a town centre. Footfall is important. Look at the towns on either side of Sligo, Enniskillen and Galway....M+S are within walking distance of the town centre , public transport facilities etc.
I would not be surprised if M+S do open in Sligo in the next few years ...certainly enough people ( everyone from the general public to developers to the planners to the Borough council to other shops ) would want them, and there are ample sites in the town, and new car parks planned.
Are there any other shops opening in Sligo?

bobcar61 · 16-07-2009 11:18am

jimmmy wrote: »

They set up within walking distance of urban centres, especially if they go to smaller cities / large towns. They do not set up in warehouse type parks a few miles from a town centre. Footfall is important. Look at the towns on either side of Sligo, Enniskillen and Galway....M+S are within walking distance of the town centre , public transport facilities etc.
I would not be surprised if M+S do open in Sligo in the next few years ...certainly enough people ( everyone from the general public to developers to the planners to the Borough council to other shops ) would want them, and there are ample sites in the town, and new car parks planned.
Are there any other shops opening in Sligo?

Where would you put M&S seeing as there are "ample" sites in the town.
Your using the same argument of M&S in Enniskillen and Galway. What about the other places where M&s are not in the town centre that myself and darealtulip have mentioned, do you just forget about them. Some of the have opened in "warehouse type parks" as you call them.

darealtulip · 16-07-2009 12:29pm

And not even at walking distance in lots of cases but a few miles from the centre!! imagine people go with a car to these places!! City slikker don't walk, unbelievble.

As said before a lot people going to sligo or one of these warehouse places come from outside of sligo and don't walk either. Besides that a bus service would solve that big big problem for the few people that don't go shopping by car.

Culchie · 16-07-2009 12:39pm

jimmmy wrote: »

They set up within walking distance of urban centres, especially if they go to smaller cities / large towns. They do not set up in warehouse type parks a few miles from a town centre. Footfall is important. Look at the towns on either side of Sligo, Enniskillen and Galway....M+S are within walking distance of the town centre , public transport facilities etc.
I would not be surprised if M+S do open in Sligo in the next few years ...certainly enough people ( everyone from the general public to developers to the planners to the Borough council to other shops ) would want them, and there are ample sites in the town, and new car parks planned.
Are there any other shops opening in Sligo?

Have you seen the Aerial shots of Blanchardstown and Liffey Valley shopping centres before they were built?
They were built in wide open fields with very little housing beside them.

As sure as night follows day .... we'll check Boards.ie in year 2020 .... Carraroe area of Sligo will be the main Sligo Retail hub.
Yes the business mix needs to be changed, too many people trying to make a fast buck importing trailer loads of furniture/tiles from china....yes they need an anchor tenant such as Tesco or M&S ... but it will happen.
Recession 2009/2010 will sort the wheat out from the chaff.

jimmmy · 16-07-2009 12:41pm

Half the town is brownfield sites , ideal for development. Ideally some place close to the inner relief road would be ideal ( for those coming by car ), and yet within easy walking distance of public transport, banks, other shops, etc The new development on Castle st ( woods ) is a bit too far from the inner relief road arteries / car parking.....but would still be preferable to industrial parks, and would greatly lift that part of the town centre. Of course the borough council would have to increase car parking spaces in the town centre. There are other sites eg beside Dunnes there is a large site for sale ( about a dozen terraced houses together ),...this would be beside the new multistorey car park for which planning permission has already been obtained. Even on the other side of the inner relief road...the Brooks hanley timber yard, or the numerous other sites nearby. All would be not too far from the public transport hub, fit in with the county Development plan, be in line with sustainable development practices and get planning if properly done.

Re Omagh, Liffey valley + Lisburn...I have not been in the one in Omagh even though I have been in Omagh plenty of times...maybe its out in the sticks ? With all due respect, Lisburn is hardly a town centre to be copied either - ever try to get a meal there for example , or browse around the town centre there ? How many tourists / visitors do they get ? Do you want the town centre in Sligo to be like Lisburn ? lol
The Liffey valey one is surrounded by a huge number of people and is not on a ( previously grassy ) hill in the country. The siting of shopping facilities in a city of well over a million is different to that of a town of what 19,000 people ? Dublin has the population to sustain shopping centres miles from the city centre there.

darealtulip · 16-07-2009 12:44pm

jimmmy wrote: »

H Do you want the town centre in Sligo to be like Lisburn ? lol
T

No But I would like the retail park to be the same WITH a big supermarket. And again not only people from sligo town shop in sligo. Since there is no city at all within 2 hour drive it could work. If you look at Carrick with not 1 but two succesfull retail parks with 3 supermarkets and you look how busy it is there you should see that it works. Even though the population is smaller then sligo it does work there.

jimmmy · 16-07-2009 1:13pm

Culchie wrote: »

Have you seen the Aerial shots of Blanchardstown and Liffey Valley shopping centres before they were built?
They were built in wide open fields with very little housing beside them.

The suburbs of Dublin still had a far greater population / catchment area in all directions than Carraroe ever had or will have.

Culchie wrote: »

As sure as night follows day .... we'll check Boards.ie in year 2020 .... Carraroe area of Sligo will be the main Sligo Retail hub..

You are entitled to your opinion, but its heading in the opposite direction, with so many units closing there / the car park almost empty. Given that Sligos population did not increase during the boom years of the celtic tiger, do you really think it will increase that much between now and 1920 ?
Maybe the units at Carraroe will make an IDA park some day, that may be more useful....or as some Germans said it should be bulldozed and made green again, so the view from the top of historic Knocknarea is not destroyed by ribbon development all the way from Sligo to Ballisodare.

Culchie wrote: »

Recession 2009/2010 will sort the wheat out from the chaff.

It already has, look at all the poorly planned empty property in outlying areas around the place, and how the countryside has in many areas been spoilt.

jimmmy · 16-07-2009 1:17pm

darealtulip wrote: »

If you look at Carrick with not 1 but two retail parks

Sligo has 3 ( Duncans island, Carraroe, and the Cleveragh one at Argus ) but they are badly planned / too far out. If it had one decent one close to the N4 + town centre it would be better for everyone.

Xiney · 16-07-2009 2:32pm

jimmmy banned for a month for starting the same old argument all over again. In fact, you never seem to post about anything else.

Frankly, we need a break from you.

Back on topic everyone please

darealtulip · 16-07-2009 7:26pm

jimmmy wrote: »

Sligo has 3 ( Duncans island, Carraroe, and the Cleveragh one at Argus ) but they are badly planned / too far out. If it had one decent one close to the N4 + town centre it would be better for everyone.

just a note not a reaction, if allowed if not just delete this.

Sorry forgot the very important word 'succesfull' and edit my post after your reaction.

excusses!!

Culchie · 18-07-2009 4:07pm

Well, we must have done stuff for 10 businesses in the last 2 months that have moved out of Sligo to the Old Dublin Rd or Collooney areas, and there is another 5 or 6 pending .... just off the top of my head.

So I think the business owners of Sligo are already preparing for the change in retailing that will occur in the near future.

Culchie · 18-07-2009 4:08pm

New Barber Shop in Tubbercurry opening soon.

darealtulip · 18-07-2009 4:43pm

Culchie wrote: »

Well, we must have done stuff for 10 businesses in the last 2 months that have moved out of Sligo to the Old Dublin Rd or Collooney areas, and there is another 5 or 6 pending .... just off the top of my head.

So I think the business owners of Sligo are already preparing for the change in retailing that will occur in the near future.

Do you know the reason why they move out of sligo?

magnumlady · 18-07-2009 7:31pm

I would say the reason they move out of town is because of access problems, it must be awful trying to get deliveries in and out of town.
I'd say it's also cheaper....although I'm only guessing.

There's a new shop opened in Ballymote selling records, cds and dvds.

darealtulip · 18-07-2009 8:23pm

magnumlady wrote: »

I would say the reason they move out of town is because of access problems, it must be awful trying to get deliveries in and out of town.
I'd say it's also cheaper....although I'm only guessing.

There's a new shop opened in Ballymote selling records, cds and dvds.

Maybe the rent outside of sligo went down more? Only guessing aswell.

Does the shop in ballymote have a lot?

magnumlady · 18-07-2009 9:22pm

I didn't have time to go into the Ballymote shop, must have a proper look soon.

Mrs.T · 18-07-2009 11:02pm

Magnumlady, is your "shop" (stall) reopening tomorrow at Collooney?

magnumlady · 18-07-2009 11:05pm

Mrs.T wrote: »

Magnumlady, is your "shop" (stall) reopening tomorrow at Collooney?

It is indeed...the kids have talked me into it.:rolleyes:

fozzle · 19-07-2009 1:58pm

magnumlady wrote: »

<snip>
There's a new shop opened in Ballymote selling records, cds and dvds.

Oooh, where?

Slidey · 19-07-2009 2:05pm

I wouldnt be in too much of a panic to go in.

From what I can see it is more second hand records and the likes he is selling.

FYI it is beside Vinnie McDonaghs where Cryans used to have the video rentals

fozzle · 19-07-2009 4:20pm

Slidey wrote: »

I wouldnt be in too much of a panic to go in.

From what I can see it is more second hand records and the likes he is selling.

FYI it is beside Vinnie McDonaghs where Cryans used to have the video rentals

Just 'cos they're second hand doesn't mean I can't get good stuff!

Thanks for the directions!

bobcar61 · 19-07-2009 5:00pm

Any business that opens up is good news whether they sell decent things or not...it's a job for someone.
Fozzle if you ever get anything decent in it let me know:p

fozzle · 19-07-2009 5:05pm

bobcar61 wrote: »

Any business that opens up is good news whether they sell decent things or not...it's a job for someone.
Fozzle if you ever get anything decent in it let me know:p

Absolutely. Let me know if ye get helpful staff

bobcar61 · 19-07-2009 5:08pm

fozzle wrote: »

Absolutely. Let me know if ye get helpful staff

Your saying I'm not helpful...that's low:p

What the new place opening beside you Fozzle, is it Cost Plus Sofa?

fozzle · 19-07-2009 5:10pm

bobcar61 wrote: »

Your saying I'm not helpful...that's low:p

What the new place opening beside you Fozzle, is it Cost Plus Sofa?

As far as I know it is. Anyone been in any of their stores? Know if they're any good?

bobcar61 · 19-07-2009 5:13pm

I've never been in them but I hear they do really really good deals on some really nice furniture.

Culchie · 19-07-2009 11:17pm

bobcar61 wrote: »

I've never been in them but I hear they do really really good deals on some really nice furniture.

We just need people to have a disposable income to buy furniture now. Another 3 years should just about do it.

Rents must have fell very very low for someone to go at this again.

starbelgrade · 22-07-2009 2:25pm

The new restaurant that opened over the Strand Bar in Strandhill is called Tra Ban.. it's a seafood & steak restaurant.

Early Bird 6-7.30pm, A La Carte 6-10pm.

Closed Mondays

email - trabanstrandhill@gmail.com

Can I leave a phone number (if not, just snip it!)... ph; 071 9128402

bobcar61 · 22-07-2009 2:33pm

starbelgrade wrote: »

The new restaurant that opened over the Strand Bar in Strandhill is called Tra Ban.. it's a seafood & steak restaurant.

Early Bird 6-7.30pm, A La Carte 6-10pm.

Closed Mondays

email - trabanstrandhill@gmail.com

Can I leave a phone number (if not, just snip it!)... ph; 071 9128402

Probably shouldn't leave it there but I see no harm so I would leave it there for the mean time. Is it the kind of restaurant where a booking would be necessary?

starbelgrade · 22-07-2009 2:44pm

bobcar61 wrote: »

Probably shouldn't leave it there but I see no harm so I would leave it there for the mean time. Is it the kind of restaurant where a booking would be necessary?

I'd say booking would be advisable - it was only open a week or two when we ate there.. got there at 7pm on a Friday & had to wait about a half hour in the bar to get a free table. I'd say that once the word gets out that they're up & running, it'll be a very busy spot.

I don't mind either way if the number stays up or not - I got it off the business card they gave me & seeing as it's a new place (& something positive happening instead of news of things closing) I said I'd chance giving them some free promotion. Up to you Bobcar - you're the mod!

bobcar61 · 22-07-2009 2:52pm

I already said I see no harm leaving the number there, for a few days at least in case people want to give them a call to book a table.

jazyguy · 22-07-2009 3:00pm

cost plus sofas have a decent website if anyone wants to have a look

Dazzler88 · 22-07-2009 3:02pm

im thinking of re-opening a Petrol station on Sligo,im hoping to see quality cheap fuel.Do you think ill have the market for it??

jazyguy · 22-07-2009 3:04pm

Also cost plus are still advertising for staff on jobs.ie if anyone is interested

jazyguy · 22-07-2009 3:05pm

I still go to Sligo fuels as they were the first to strat cutting prices in Sligo. If you can beat them Dazzler I'll def give you the biz

Dazzler88 · 22-07-2009 3:10pm

jazyguy wrote: »

I still go to Sligo fuels as they were the first to strat cutting prices in Sligo. If you can beat them Dazzler I'll def give you the biz

cheers for that.Ya Sligo Fuels is a big competitor,their selling some amount of fuel out of there.i know the fellow that runs it and theres no recession with him.

Stores opening or re-opening in Sligo

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