Subaru Impreza Boxer Diesel

lafors · 18-04-2009 11:22am #1

Questions, questions, questions......

Does anyone here have the new Impreza Boxer Diesel?
Anyone driven one yet? If so what are they like to drive?

I see there are 3 specs, the 2.0TD, 2.0TD S, 2.0TD RS
(resp. €21,495, €26,995, €30,995)
The base 2.0TD looks a bargain!

EPM · 18-04-2009 12:24pm

Drove one ealier in the year. Really nice car. Loads of power and you can get it down on the road which is nice. Quiet with it. Salesman said you could start the engine with a coin on top and it wouldnt fall off and I genuinely would believe it. The base car is a bit of a bargain too. Only thing its missing (for me) is radio controls on the wheel and front fogs both of which can be got. No proper arm rest either. Different dealers gave different stories on this though. It's even got heated seats. One thing though - it's very plasticy inside and some of them seemed as if they would mark easily. Still, if you're careful-ish should be fine. Was sorely tempted but cost to change was too much

unkel · 18-04-2009 9:02pm

lafors wrote: »

The base 2.0TD looks a bargain!

Indeed. The spec is reasonable and it does have 4WD as standard. One of the best value for money new cars out there imho (if you can live with the looks).

vectra · 18-04-2009 9:06pm

Hopefully this 2.0TD S, €26,995, will be my next car

EPM · 18-04-2009 9:28pm

They are the best value for money in base spec - There is a serious jump in price between spec's though

P.C. · 18-04-2009 9:31pm

unkel wrote: »

Indeed. The spec is reasonable and it does have 4WD as standard. One of the best value for money new cars out there imho (if you can live with the looks).

Does it have 'Low Ratio'?

unkel · 18-04-2009 9:34pm

vectra wrote: »

Hopefully this 2.0TD S, €26,995, will be my next car

What extras do you get on top of the base spec for the extra €5,500?

TomMc · 18-04-2009 9:38pm

http://www.subaru.ie/Subaru_ie/ViewMenu.qed?menuid=M3M2M1

unkel · 18-04-2009 9:44pm

Thanks for the link, TomMc.

That's a lot of money for very little extras imho. I reckon about 60-70% of this will have depreciated within a year.

TomMc · 18-04-2009 9:44pm

Looks like 17" wheels, upgraded stereo, Xenons and bodykit. Makes the entry level one look like the best option in terms of value for money.

niceirishfella · 18-04-2009 9:45pm

Cheap car all in all.

vectra · 18-04-2009 9:46pm

unkel wrote: »

Thanks for the link, TomMc.

That's a lot of money for very little extras imho. I reckon about 60-70% of this will have depreciated within a year.

so
buy the base model and stick a nicer set of wheels under it?
add xenon kit maybe?

Wont be buying for a while but weighing up the options

niceirishfella · 18-04-2009 9:49pm

vectra wrote: »

so
buy the base model and stick a nicer set of wheels under it?
add xenon kit maybe?

Wont be buying for a while but weighing up the options

If you're waiting a bit, save up in between and by then you may be able to afford a legacy......?

Same engine,economy etc but without the ugly looks of the impreza.

EPM · 18-04-2009 9:52pm

vectra wrote: »

so
buy the base model and stick a nicer set of wheels under it?
add xenon kit maybe?

Wont be buying for a while but weighing up the options

Was unbelievably tempted to get one at start of year and that was what I was going to do...only exterior difference is wheels, fogs and sideskirts.

Interior main one is the all in one seats really

unkel · 18-04-2009 10:06pm

vectra wrote: »

so
buy the base model and stick a nicer set of wheels under it?
add xenon kit maybe?

Anything added after buying the car and you won't be paying VRT over it. And 16" wheels might very well be more suitable to the car anyway on our roads. How much is a proper aftermarket (or even dealer) xenon upgrade?

Biro · 18-04-2009 10:15pm

I think the base spec is 2wd, the others are 4wd. They actually don't look too bad for a hatchback. Nicer than the Mk 6 golf, and much better value. 7 grand cheaper for 10 more bhp!

EPM · 18-04-2009 10:20pm

All models are 4 wheel drive.

The curious thing though is that they dont sell this in the UK - surely they'd clean up over there with it

vectra · 18-04-2009 10:53pm

EPM wrote: »

All models are 4 wheel drive.

The curious thing though is that they dont sell this in the UK - surely they'd clean up over there with it

hmm
buy a few and sell them over then

EPM · 18-04-2009 10:55pm

That could actually work I'd say:cool:

Zonda999 · 18-04-2009 11:06pm

EPM wrote: »

The curious thing though is that they dont sell this in the UK - surely they'd clean up over there with it

See here

EPM · 18-04-2009 11:09pm

makes sense Zonda yes...

Biro · 19-04-2009 12:35am

EPM wrote: »

All models are 4 wheel drive.

How sure are you? Mate was told by a dealer that the base is 2wd, that's why the gap is so big to next model up. It doesn't give any info on the subaru.ie site.

EPM · 19-04-2009 12:42am

I was told it was AWD by the salesman in Ryans in Cork when I test drove one. As far as I remember the brochure stated it and it got the power doen without a bother. Also the transmission tunnel in the back was BIG! There might be a FWD option but it would seem mad to re-engineer the thing for a base model special sold in limited numbers

EDIT - ALL I COULD FIND ON THE WEB

http://www.subaru-global.com/special/impreza_20d/index.html

coolbeans · 19-04-2009 12:56am

Biro wrote: »

How sure are you? Mate was told by a dealer that the base is 2wd, that's why the gap is so big to next model up. It doesn't give any info on the subaru.ie site.

No offence but that's utter bollox. All imprezas diesels are four wheel drive. Buddy of mine asked me to recommend a new diesel car and I recommended it based on the value for money, the reassurance of 4wd, the fact that it's a new model, bang up to date technology-wise and highly likely to be very reliable.
Anyway he went for a test drive, liked it and bought the car. It comes with asymmetrical all wheel drive written on the back (base model) and just to be sure I took it out the back of our farmyard to see how it would take off on the loose suface. After dropping the clutch at relatively high revs it cut right out. It's definitely four wheel drive. If a salesman really said that it wasn't he should be fired for general ignorance.:eek:
To the OP it's a nice car, it really is especially if you put your own bigger alloys on post purhase. It REALLY needs bigger wheels. Other virtues include excellent grip in the wet, yes I drove it on the road too, and the engine is very smooth. One thing though the diesels seem a bit gutless until they're run in so bear that in mind if you go for a test drive. After about 10,000km they're very quick and you'll need to watch the speedo to avoid points. Standard equipment is generous with climate control, 6 speed gearbox, cruise control, MP3 connectivity, alloys, tractions control and lots of other acronyms which mean nothing to me but are costly options on competitors. The interior is fairly dark although the build quality is the best in the business in my opinion. Big rubbery dashboards do not a reliable or well built car make contrary to popular perception. VW and Audi take note!
I agree about the crazy price difference between the various spec levels though. I think you'd be nuts to spend E5000 on bigger wheels,, a body kit and foglights that won't be used appropriately anyway.

Seinas · 19-04-2009 1:00am

yeah im looking at buying one of these at the moment, the salesman in Dermot Healy Motors in Killarney said that the only difference between the TD and the TDS is an inch bigger alloys and spot lights!! so i was thinking getting the TD version and getting all the extra's thrown on:rolleyes: still though, there's loads of 09 ones on carzone with hardly any mileage going for much cheaper than the quoted price:D

unkel · 19-04-2009 8:48pm

I looked into it for a previous thread and even the cheapest diesel is 4WD. The base petrol might be 2WD - I'm not 100% sure on that.

vectra · 19-04-2009 9:01pm

Seinas wrote: »

the salesman in Dermot Healy Motors in Killarney said that the only difference between the TD and the TDS is an inch bigger alloys and spot lights!!

Sounds like a big price jump for those :eek:

Carawaystick · 19-04-2009 9:15pm

All Subaru's except the justy are fulltime 4wd, just like all subaru's except the justy have boxer engines.
the Legacy has most of the options on the mid price car - and only 3k more

Biro · 19-04-2009 10:00pm

The old Impreza's were 2wd in base models. Those days must be gone now! No harm, nice to have 4WD. Excellent value car. Hopefully will replace the infamous "Octavia" when people suggest cheap diesels!

Zonda999 · 19-04-2009 10:11pm

Biro wrote: »

Hopefully will replace the infamous "Octavia" when people suggest cheap diesels!

It does seem to undercut the octavia but that'll be fighting back in the near future when their greenline model lands here. 1.6 CR TDI with 105 bhp. CO2 - 119G/KM -) E104 road tax. Shouldnt be much more then 20k.

I think the octavia is a bit better looking too to be fair!:)

vectra · 19-04-2009 10:25pm

Zonda999 wrote: »

I think the octavia is a bit better looking too to be fair!:)

Generally I would think older people like the Octavia as a family car .
I couldnt see those same people buying Imprezza's just because they have 4wd and are 20k (ish)

unkel · 19-04-2009 10:27pm

Carawaystick wrote: »

All Subaru's except the justy are fulltime 4wd

Nope, in Ireland, only diesel Imprezas are sold, which are all 4WD as I stated. In many other markets, the 1.5 petrol base model is FWD only, like in Germany

Johnboy Mac · 19-04-2009 11:39pm

Well it's got my vote on the face of it for €22k - Jap built, 150bhp diesel (flat 4 no less) and 4x4. Yeah, I would'nt mind being the market for a new diesel right now.

Biro · 20-04-2009 9:14am

Zonda999 wrote: »

It does seem to undercut the octavia but that'll be fighting back in the near future when their greenline model lands here. 1.6 CR TDI with 105 bhp. CO2 - 119G/KM -) E104 road tax. Shouldnt be much more then 20k.

I think the octavia is a bit better looking too to be fair!:)

I actually think the Impreza is better looking than the face lifted Octavia, and Skoda can offer it at 21k if they like, but it'll have 105bhp and FWD as opposed to 150bhp and 4WD... still no comparison in value for money!! The Impreza has the Octavia licked!

pburns · 20-04-2009 10:19am

Nothing wrong with the Impreza looks-wise if it has a decent set of wheels (I agree with coolbeans - it NEEDS bigger alloys). Added to the bonnet scoop that would give it a real menacing look IMO.

I have the Legacy since July. Engine is wonderfully smooth, never sounds strained. Beats the socks off any diesel engine and most petrols I've ever sampled. Needs at least 8000km to loosen up though. Even the gearbox feels better with mileage.

My only problem is that the new model 2010 Leggie looks fugly in pics. Maybe it'll grow on me ort maybe I'll 'step-down' to an Impreza (it'll be a year or two away but I like to plan!)

Pity for them they don't import the Impreza saloon. Octavia/Corolla-man would lap that up. Saw one in the States, would do well here.

niceirishfella · 20-04-2009 1:18pm

Biro wrote: »

but it'll have 105bhp and FWD as opposed to 150bhp and 4WD... still no comparison in value for money!! The Impreza has the Octavia licked!

Does the suburu have a longer warranty than the skoda?
probably....:D

Anan1 · 20-04-2009 1:29pm

niceirishfella wrote: »

Does the suburu have a longer warranty than the skoda?
probably....:D

Yeah, 3 yrs instead of 2.

Biro · 20-04-2009 2:36pm

niceirishfella wrote: »

Does the suburu have a longer warranty than the skoda?
probably....:D

The Subaru is less likely to actually need Warranty work! Although to be fair, Skoda really do a good job building their cars. They seem to have ironed out Volkswagen/Audi problems!

niceirishfella · 20-04-2009 2:46pm

Biro wrote: »

The Subaru is less likely to actually need Warranty work! Although to be fair, Skoda really do a good job building their cars. They seem to have ironed out Volkswagen/Audi problems!

yeah, but nothing is perfect. It's good to have that extra years peace of mind too.:)

EPM · 20-04-2009 3:12pm

Only thing, isn't the Skoda's unlimited mileage...I could be wrong...

vectra · 20-04-2009 3:33pm

EPM wrote: »

Only thing, isn't the Skoda's unlimited mileage...I could be wrong...

I would guess it is Unloimited mileage OR 2 years whivhever comes first

tuxy · 20-04-2009 3:58pm

vectra wrote: »

I would guess it is Unloimited mileage OR 2 years whivhever comes first

How could unlimited mileage come first? lol

vectra · 20-04-2009 4:50pm

tuxy wrote: »

How could unlimited mileage come first? lol

Unlimited mileage UP TO TWO YEARS..!! :rolleyes:

or
would you prefer to get a car with 2 years or 30,000 kilometers warrenty??
if you were a high miler which would come first??

Anan1 · 20-04-2009 4:53pm

vectra wrote: »

Unlimited mileage UP TO TWO YEARS..!! :rolleyes:

or
would you prefer to get a car with 2 years or 30,000 kilometers warrenty??
if you were a high miler which would come first??

Subaru give 3yrs/160,000kms, which, I imagine, would suit most people better.

Biro · 21-04-2009 12:07am

vectra wrote: »

Unlimited mileage UP TO TWO YEARS..!! :rolleyes:

or
would you prefer to get a car with 2 years or 30,000 kilometers warrenty??
if you were a high miler which would come first??

His point was you phrased it incorrectly. "2 years OR unlimited warranty whichever comes first" isn't a choice. It's a guaranteed 2 year warranty regardless of mileage.

Shadow Dancer · 21-04-2009 12:42am

lafors wrote: »

Questions, questions, questions......
Does anyone here have the new Impreza Boxer Diesel?
Anyone driven one yet? If so what are they like to drive?

I see there are 3 specs, the 2.0TD, 2.0TD S, 2.0TD RS
(resp. €21,495, €26,995, €30,995)
The base 2.0TD looks a bargain!

I bought the Impreza Boxer Diesel bout a month ago. It's an absolutely brilliant car to drive. Mine is the 2.0 TD. It's a very solid car on the road and it's a great car to drive. Lot's of power when needed.

It's my first diesel car. When I took it for a test drive, I knew I was going to buy myself one. Personally, I reckon it's one of the best value cars on the market at the moment. I don't think anyone who buys one is going to be disappointed. Good luck!

vectra · 21-04-2009 7:02am

Biro wrote: »

His point was you phrased it incorrectly. "2 years OR unlimited warranty whichever comes first" isn't a choice.

Talk about the kettle calling the pot Black Ar$e :rolleyes:

Biro · 21-04-2009 8:46am

vectra wrote: »

Talk about the kettle calling the pot Black Ar$e :rolleyes:

What? I was quoting you...

vectra · 21-04-2009 10:37am

Biro wrote: »

What? I was quoting you...

I know that
which is why I said what I did.
Read my post and your reply carefully

BnA · 21-04-2009 12:18pm

Wow.

I simply cannot believe that price. 20 freggin Grand for a 4X4 150bhp subaru diesel that will do close to 50mpgs.

That is the bargin of the century. I am quare tempted.

Although.....building a house at the minute.....

Mmmmm Subaru Vs Granite Worktops.....

MMmmmm

EPM · 21-04-2009 12:21pm

BnA wrote: »

Wow.

I simply cannot believe that price. 20 freggin Grand for a 4X4 150bhp subaru diesel that will do close to 50mpgs.

That is the bargin of the century. I am quare tempted.

Although.....building a house at the minute.....

Mmmmm Subaru Vs Granite Worktops.....

MMmmmm

Subaru and some plywood:D

Subaru Impreza Boxer Diesel

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