Goth Discussion

Piste wrote: »

I think the conclusion of this thread is that Goths, like most people, are about cake.

But of course!

I have always been involved in a lot of different groups. I never much liked limitations so would just what i wanted, dress how i wanted, listen to what i wanted. It's a possibility that this desire to not truly follow anyone trend or group or culture meant i was always on the outskirts of each "group" but their is one simply thing that i have learned from knowing so many people who were all into different things.

Ask 3 people in the same scene what that scene is about and you will get three different answers. As was already said, everything has a driver and life as an individual capable of cognitive thought just means that we all reach out to find commons lines, interests and associations with our fellow humans but for very different reasons and when we find something we can give it very different interpretations.

As such, "scenes" and "groups" and "trends" tend to have rough rules but that is about it. Go to a Psytrance night anywhere in town and you will find people who call themselves Goth but are dressed in neon dancing to beats about love, respect and happiness. Find a group of old school Goths and they may not be willing to accept the Neon Goths. Most social scenes work on a system of inclusion and exclusion. It's the EXCLUSIONS that tend to define that social scene a lot more than who they actually allow in, in my opinion.

In short, Goth, much like anything else, is a rough family of people with a shared and common interest, emtional base etc etc but with so many things feeding into it, and from it, that in a way it's an individual to each person as the there are people involved.

Just like anything else.

SDooM wrote: »

You mean there's no coldplay after death?

Is that some sort of veiled and twisted reference to necrophilia ?

You know, it does seem to me that people are talking about Goth simply as a particular style of dress, or a scene, and completely glossing over the actual style of music.

Dragan wrote: »

Go to a Psytrance night anywhere in town

If only it were true that psytrance could be found "anywhere in town" Although the scene does seem to be growing

I'm of the opinion that the word "goth" doesn't really refer to much other than fashion or music. Anything else is down to the individual. You can say that it means different things to different people, but it's hard to really see the point in that, other than the fact that some people might like to romaticise about being defined by the "goth" label.

A question on this whole supposed "dark" or "morbid" view on life, or fascination with death, to anyone who would agree with such claims. Is this really the case, or is it more to do with artifacts, symbols and art traditionally associated with death - skulls, coffins, black clothing, pale skin etc. ? For example, would you look at pictures of corpses, videos of people being killed, read articles on murder, necrophilia etc., or would it be limited to simply enjoying a particular aesthetic?

What do you mean by "darkly"?

Thaedydal wrote: »

I disagree it's a mindset, a philosphy, a way of looking at the world through a glass darkly.

Couldnt have put it better!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Through_a_Glass_Darkly

Bible quote infact.
1 Corinthians 13:12