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Deportation case mother had fake baby death papers, inquiry told

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭kathy2


    Degsy wrote: »
    As i've said before this whole geniatl mutilation thing is a con-job.
    Nobody has it done without the mothers consent so anybody who uses it as an excuse to avoid deportation is a liar.

    Why is she still here?The lefty,busybody,know-nothing Irish Pc brigade have fought her corner even though she's costing THEM money with her bullshiit appeals.
    Throw her and her brood out of the country and the wanky apologists along with her.

    Agree 100% well said


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    Can we just end this and get her out of the country?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭carlybabe1


    As i've said before this whole geniatl mutilation thing is a con-job.
    Nobody has it done without the mothers consent so anybody who uses it as an excuse to avoid deportation is a liar.

    This is a rediculious statement, if you read any anthropological papers of any tribes in africa you will know that the mothers do not give consent, their permission is not required (google it)

    What makes it a con job as a matter of interest? Is it that you dont believe it happens, or do you think its like getting your clit pierced, the kind of thing you do if you want to be different?

    As for the doctor, maybe yis should read todays paper, he made a statement and signed it a few years ago to that he did try to save the baby but she bled to death. He has since changed his story and there is speculation that it was under duress for the army in africa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭kathy2


    Are you on drugs? :pac: Wake up and smell the coffee. 400,000 euro that could have been used on genuine causes!:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭kathy2


    Mayor made chieftain in Nigerian hometown (But he claims he was forced to leave for reasons of religious persecution)

    The Mayor of Portlaoise Cllr Rotimi Adebari was made an honorary chieftain of his hometown of Okeodan in Nigeria during a recent trip home.
    Mayor Adebari had returned to Nigeria with his wife Ibironke on the sad occasion of the funeral of her father last month.
    While there he was approached by town officials and informed that His Royal Highness King Alaycluwa Oba Oluwarotimi Fagbenro and representatives of the Ogun State Government and the town Chief Lere Bamgboye wished to hold a ceremony in his honour on his achievement of becoming Mayor of Portlaoise. Over 1,000 people attended the ceremony, which was held in the town’s market square


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Acacia


    Degsy wrote: »
    Here we go again.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

    It is one of racism.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
    That is the word most used by certain people when they're not happy with the way thier argument is going.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
    Typical lefty rubbish.

    I find it somewhat interesting that the people who complain about over-use and mis-use of the term 'racist' are usually the same people who sprinkle all their posts with a generous helping of 'pc brigade' and 'bleeding heart liberals' etc, etc. Highly amusing.


    'Racism' is thinking that one race is superior to another. Hence when somebody posts ''all Nigerians are lazy'' based on an experience of a few, they are not exactly being racist per se, but they are being discriminatory about an entire group of people by unfairly generalizing them. Which is just as bad as ranting on about white pride and the like, imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭Dublin1600


    OMG this just keeps getting better and better, best novel ever!!!

    Now Pamela admits papers are faked

    Pamela Izevbekhai, the Nigerian woman who claims she fled to Ireland in order to save her two daughters from female genital mutilation (FGM), has admitted that documents used in a series of legal challenges against her deportation were counterfeits.

    She still insists that she had a daughter, named Elizabeth, who died in 1994 at the age of 17 months after undergoing female circumcision.

    Izevbekhai, whose landmark Supreme Court challenge to stay in Ireland with her two daughters, Naomi, 7, and Jemima, 6, is due to be heard this Friday, made the admission yesterday. The disclosure is almost certain to cause the collapse of her legal challange.

    Izevbekhai admitted that a document purporting to be Elizabeth’s death certificate was a fake. An affidavit from Joseph Unokanjo, an obstetrician who purportedly treated the child before she died, was also a counterfeit.

    Izevbekhai said she only learned that the documents were fake on Friday night when her husband Tony, who is living in Nigeria, admitted he had obtained them from a fraudster. She claimed her husband was forced to obtain the fake documents because Unokanjo had refused to supply the real papers and medical reports without a substantial payment.

    Unokanjo has denied this in an interview with The Sunday Times but refused to answer detailed questions about the case unless he received a payment of €5,000 from the newspaper.

    Izevbekhai said she now regretted taking a series of legal challenges, including one to the European Court of Human Rights, against her deportation and those of her daughters.

    “I didn’t know the documents were fake when I passed them to my lawyers. I am so sorry for what has happened. If people are upset, they have every right to be upset. Everything I did, I did it believing the documents to be true. I know I am in a lot of trouble and I don’t know how to get myself out of it,” she said.

    Izevbekhai appealed to Dermot Ahern, the justice minister, to “pardon” her for what had happened. She said she feared being killed in her native country if her deportation to Nigeria proceeded. “Anything that I did was for the safety of my children. Nigeria is not a safe place for me any more.” Izevbekhai said she felt she had let down her supporters, friends and legal team. “My lawyers acted in good faith. I didn’t set out to deceive anyone because I didn’t know the documents were fakes.”

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article5993384.ece


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭S.I.R


    Dublin1600 wrote: »

    that site will be gone shortly... with that idiot.... Limit the amount of appeals 1 person has please....



    irelands just enough as it is.... we're border line shorting each other as it is... one more push towards the edge is just what we need...


    send her back to do Carzone.ie scams... :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Word of warning: that letthemstay site crashed my browser (chrome) three times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭S.I.R


    Bambi wrote: »
    Word of warning: that letthemstay site crashed my browser (chrome) three times.

    doesnt take much to crash chrome.... was it scratched ?


    why not just DOS ping attack it ??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    “I didn’t know the documents were fake when I passed them to my lawyers. I am so sorry for what has happened. If people are upset, they have every right to be upset. Everything I did, I did it believing the documents to be true. I know I am in a lot of trouble and I don’t know how to get myself out of it,” she said.


    Sounds perfectly plausible, maybe if she cries a bit as well we should not only pardon her but make her the mayor of a small town as well.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    S.I.R wrote: »
    doesnt take much to crash chrome.... was it scratched ?


    why not just DOS ping attack it ??

    off topic but chrome is pretty damn stable IME, it's the only browser that's ever lured me away from IE enough to make me never want to go back


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    greetings wrote: »
    Can we just end this and get her out of the country?
    vote you for president. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭S.I.R


    Bambi wrote: »
    off topic but chrome is pretty damn stable IME, it's the only browser that's ever lured me away from IE enough to make me never want to go back

    firefox or nothing imho.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    S.I.R wrote: »
    doesnt take much to crash chrome.... was it scratched ?


    why not just DOS ping attack it ??
    Bambi wrote: »
    off topic but chrome is pretty damn stable IME, it's the only browser that's ever lured me away from IE enough to make me never want to go back
    S.I.R wrote: »
    firefox or nothing imho.

    You might want to go here... Like seriously, GTFO...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭S.I.R


    You might want to go here... Like seriously, GTFO...


    Bahh humbug.... get back on the dole queue ! :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    S.I.R wrote: »
    Bahh humbug.... get back on the dole queue ! :rolleyes:

    :P

    Anyway, if this case falls against her, which looks likely, very very likely. Would she be able to go to the European Human Rights Courts though? I guess she won't get far if the documents are forged. It's still a bit fishy, with the doctor retracting his previous statements... you know?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭S.I.R


    :P

    Anyway, if this case falls against her, which looks likely, very very likely. Would she be able to go to the European Human Rights Courts though? I guess she won't get far if the documents are forged. It's still a bit fishy, with the doctor retracting his previous statements... you know?

    if she does, who foots the legal bills as she will use the " Me no english " argument followed by the " ill be killed by stones " b.s...


    tbh...


    they have Ak 47's.... its painless really...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Papad


    What puzzles me in all of this is the gullibility of the large amount of people who supported her. Were they not suspicious after she initially lied how she got into the country? Shouldn't this have caused alarm bells to go off with the rest of the story?

    They will probably now say that it was all worth it just to highlight FGM. It will be their way to retreat from their intractable positions.

    It is an unfortunate fact that most if not all asylum claims made by Nigerians are false (according to the senior person responsible for handling these claims). Yet, there are still tens of thousands of them in the country. When will this can of worms be investigated?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭S.I.R


    Papad wrote: »
    What puzzles me in all of this is the gullibility of the large amount of people who supported her. Were they not suspicious after she initially lied how she got into the country? Shouldn't this have caused alarm bells to go off with the rest of the story?

    They will probably now say that it was all worth it just to highlight FGM. It will be their way to retreat from their intractable positions.

    It is an unfortunate fact that most if not all asylum claims made by Nigerians are false (according to the senior person responsible for handling these claims). Yet, there are still tens of thousands of them in the country. When will this can of worms be investigated?

    when theirs millions to be spent on a tribunal that goes nowhere


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    Papad wrote: »
    What puzzles me in all of this is the gullibility of the large amount of people who supported her. Were they not suspicious after she initially lied how she got into the country? Shouldn't this have caused alarm bells to go off with the rest of the story?

    They will probably now say that it was all worth it just to highlight FGM. It will be their way to retreat from their intractable positions.

    It is an unfortunate fact that most if not all asylum claims made by Nigerians are false (according to the senior person responsible for handling these claims). Yet, there are still tens of thousands of them in the country. When will this can of worms be investigated?

    Check UK situation ! They have been dealing with this issue even longer than we have


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,073 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    kathy2 wrote: »
    Mayor made chieftain in Nigerian hometown (But he claims he was forced to leave for reasons of religious persecution)

    The Mayor of Portlaoise Cllr Rotimi Adebari was made an honorary chieftain of his hometown of Okeodan in Nigeria during a recent trip home.
    Mayor Adebari had returned to Nigeria with his wife Ibironke on the sad occasion of the funeral of her father last month.
    While there he was approached by town officials and informed that His Royal Highness King Alaycluwa Oba Oluwarotimi Fagbenro and representatives of the Ogun State Government and the town Chief Lere Bamgboye wished to hold a ceremony in his honour on his achievement of becoming Mayor of Portlaoise. Over 1,000 people attended the ceremony, which was held in the town’s market square

    Link please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭kathy2




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    seems his story might have a few holes in it then :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭Victor_M


    S.I.R wrote: »
    when theirs millions to be spent on a tribunal that goes nowhere

    Yeah, but at least tribunals don't multiply like rabbits, spawning more tribunals that do nothing for them selves other than sit on their holes learning their 'rights' verbatim and leeching off the state.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    kathy2 wrote: »

    So the people who left NI to avoid violence but have subsequently returned were making it up....?


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