Why do Irish men?

LolaLuv · 03-01-2009 12:16AM

latchyco wrote: »

Well to be honest ,it would need superhuman efforts to date 4 or 5 people in Ireland ( specialy all at once ) But the two timing is usually somebody cheating enjoying the best of both worlds until they decide who they want to be with ( or who makes the best offer )

Ha, that's just playing the field where I come from. Otherwise it seems a bit much like putting all your eggs in one basket!

Latchy · 03-01-2009 12:23AM

PillyPen wrote: »

Ha, that's just playing the field where I come from. Otherwise it seems a bit much like putting all your eggs in one basket!

Nothing worng with playing the field and it's Recomended .I think, and I could be wrong but so many put their eggs in one basket thinking ,this is it , this is the one person .......then come the big downer when they get dumped and not prepared to handle the drop .

A Primal Nut · 03-01-2009 12:25AM

Earthhorse wrote: »

What he's saying is that because we're emulating it we end up warping it into something more serious than it is. We see it as a big deal to go on a date, Americans don't. Which is why they go on more of them.

Oh ok. Well I was mainly responding to this quote - I was just saying that it was ok to call them dates because that suggests something casual. I obviously misunderstood this quote:

But what I mean is why do we necessarily have to label them? I mean why do you have to call a date a date? It makes it more serious

I do the dating multiple people thing anyway even in Ireland. If I meet a nice girl, and I'm calling/texting her, and happen to get lucky to meet another one a few days later I'd still get that girls number and see what happens and perhaps see each one a couple of times - its called keeping your options open and I didn't think it was such a big deal in Ireland till I read this thread. Meeting up with some girl in a pub one night who you don't really know and meeting someone else the next day is not cheating. Its usually obvious when the line is crossed - perhaps when you have sex, become boyfriend/girlfriend or whatever way we agree to be exclusive. If its obvious things are heating up I will obviously leave all the others. But just meeting up with two different girls for the Irish equivalent of a date on different nights a couple of times is not cheating.

Besides women change their mind at the top of the hat in the early stages of meeting a guy (or at least with me) so its always good to have a backup plan so you don't feel too upset. My experience anyway.

von Neumann · 03-01-2009 12:37AM

A Primal Nut wrote: »

I think the exact opposite - its so casual and not-serious over there. You see Friends - some guy goes up to a girl "You look nice, wanna go on a date sometime!" Imagine you tried that here!

Wear shades, that way the mace won't sting as much

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Húrin · 03-01-2009 12:47AM

shqipshume wrote: »

Not know how to treat a lady right?
Why when they get to age of about 24 they start to get beer bellies and not take care of themselves like foreign men?
Why do they get Loud and drink way to much?
Why do they show respect more to foreign women then they do to their own?

Well we are repressed and all. Niceness to foreign women? Well a lot of Irish women have much more negative attitudes to male attempts at communication. Maybe that's why.

These days young women are just as bad as the boys for drinking too much.

Not that I'm advocating disrespect.

Latchy · 03-01-2009 12:54AM

When i was growing up as a teen and allowed into pubs for the ( official ) first time ,I was amazed to see that a lot of my contemporays wanted to cotinue drinking in the local fields .I am not talking about your local dipsos or anything but nice blokes and girls who were eligble to sit in cosy pubs .It seem the playing field ( a very apt name ) was the best option because not only can you consume your booze cheaply around a log fire with you choice of music but the object of your amorous intentions was only a can of beer , a bottle of VP ( virgins piss ) or a flaggon of cider away .Sure it's still the way now . Each generation to it's own .Way ta go

Dudess · 03-01-2009 01:00AM

shqipshume wrote: »

Yep same as the guys did about Irish women over in other thread

Indeed. And you find that objectionable, so why are you engaging in the same generalising?

4zn76tysfajdxp · 03-01-2009 01:06AM

Dudess wrote: »

Indeed. And you find that objectionable, so why are you engaging in the same generalising?

Because Irish women are hypocrites.

"Oh no he didn't...!":eek:

evercloserunion · 03-01-2009 01:11AM

No man has really hit puberty until he gets a beer belly.

A Primal Nut · 03-01-2009 01:14AM

Alma Kind Thief wrote: »

Because Irish women are hypocrites.

"Oh no he didn't...!":eek:

Or Albanian ones too...apparently.

To be fair, I think its ok to discuss generalisations in a fairly light-hearted manner such as threads like these...whether about girls or boys..I don't think anyone's gonna get too upset.

g5fd6ow0hseima · 03-01-2009 01:47AM

Húrin wrote: »

Well we are repressed and all. Niceness to foreign women? Well a lot of Irish women have much more negative attitudes to male attempts at communication. Maybe that's why.

These days young women are just as bad as the boys for drinking too much.

Not that I'm advocating disrespect.

Very well Said, I feel it all boils down to our teenage years to be honest, even in our early 20s it a group of lads going 'oi, would ya do dat 1 if ya had a few pints n ya' (etc), and on the other hand a group of girls in deep discussion about the arrogance of that lad over in the corner. Basically, there's too much friction between the sexes on these shores for my liking. Personally, I blame the whole catholic climate which prevailed in the preceeding decades, something which hasnt just fully worn off.

I try to treat men and women as the same when socialising, and girls just cant understand it. Sadly, playing the sly charmer wins in most cases, a role i detest!

Húrin · 03-01-2009 01:54AM

Aubriella Cuddly Gout wrote: »

Very well Said, I feel it all boils down to our teenage years to be honest, even in our early 20s it a group of lads going 'oi, would ya do dat 1 if ya had a few pints n ya' (etc), and on the other hand a group of girls in deep discussion about the arrogance of that lad over in the corner. Basically, there's too much friction between the sexes on these shores for my liking. Personally, I blame the whole catholic climate which prevailed in the preceeding decades, something which hasnt just fully worn off.

Definitely, people need to relax. I would put a lot of blame on single-sex schooling. Such a rubbish idea.

g5fd6ow0hseima · 03-01-2009 01:57AM

Húrin wrote: »

Definitely, people need to relax. I would put a lot of blame on single-sex schooling. Such a rubbish idea.

Yup, ive went on plenty of rants about it. People dont seem to realise that its the sole cause for friendships to occur along gender lines, as opposed to gender not being an issue.

I went to an all boys national/secondary school, ive suffered under this system.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 03-01-2009 01:58AM

Fembot, scram...

Why do Irish women... bla bla bla... you get the picture.

grenache · 03-01-2009 02:02AM

Húrin wrote: »

Definitely, people need to relax. I would put a lot of blame on single-sex schooling. Such a rubbish idea.

I would like to second that, single sex schools are from a by-gone era and should have been done away with years ago. It definitely affects a guys ability to understand and relate to the fairer sex. Funny that its most prevalent in the bigger towns and cities - the chulchies obviously got their act together years ago!

Latchy · 03-01-2009 02:06AM

grenache wrote: »

I would like to second that, single sex schools are from a by-gone era and should have been done away with years ago. It definitely affects a guys ability to understand and relate to the fairer sex. Funny that its most prevalent in the bigger towns and cities - the chulchies obviously got their act together years ago!

Yeah ,we teen/ twenty somting dubs used to frequent the likes of wexford ,waterford ,wiclow etc on bank holiday weekends in droves to get a piece of the action were we were welcomed with open arms by the local talent ie - yore sister

allabouteve · 03-01-2009 02:07AM

shqipshume wrote: »

Not know how to treat a lady right?
Why when they get to age of about 24 they start to get beer bellies and not take care of themselves like foreign men?
Why do they get Loud and drink way to much?
Why do they show respect more to foreign women then they do to their own?

Now not all but alot

I have noticed that here they really dont know how to carry on with women in right manner

lol

I'm not Irish.

When I lived in Ireland:

The men I met were, almost without exception, good looking, respectful, treated me royally, sexy, humorous, well-spoken, and in very good shape.

They don't all hide in daylight and come out of the shadows for non-Irish girls, do they?

Tricity Bendix · 03-01-2009 02:08AM

grenache wrote: »

I would like to second that, single sex schools are from a by-gone era and should have been done away with years ago. It definitely affects a guys ability to understand and relate to the fairer sex. Funny that its most prevalent in the bigger towns and cities - the chulchies obviously got their act together years ago!

Actually, that's because it's hard to justify having two schools in places with lower population density.

shqipshume · 03-01-2009 02:11AM

Dudess wrote: »

Indeed. And you find that objectionable, so why are you engaging in the same generalising?

I didnt generalise people put themselves in that generalisation i said not all! People taking it personal if they dont fit in that general description is not my problem;) Cause if they dont then why do they care.
Also i didnt see anyone run to defend their Irish girls not even the Irish girls

Its a boards i had a question from my observations and also brought on by the way men were talking about women of ireland.
Whats ur problem?
I didnt slate anyone nor was i rude i already said sorry about some of it cause i took it a little to far.

shqipshume · 03-01-2009 02:13AM

allabouteve wrote: »

I'm not Irish.

When I lived in Ireland:

The men I met were, almost without exception, good looking, respectful, treated me royally, sexy, humorous, well-spoken, and in very good shape.

They don't all hide in daylight and come out of the shadows for non-Irish girls, do they?

thats nice of you to say:),they will be chuffed and i will be bad girl lol

I dont know girl its possible

lol

Latchy · 03-01-2009 02:16AM

allabouteve wrote: »

They don't all hide in daylight and come out of the shadows for non-Irish girls, do they?

It might boil down to self esteem issues as much as being valued by foriegn womon .I once had a fling with an italian girl in Dublin back in the 80s , who told me I was her blue eyed boy balh blah ( ok i'm exagerating a bit ) but i knew it was only a summer thing and glad for the expierence none the less .

allabouteve · 03-01-2009 02:20AM

latchyco wrote: »

It might boil down to self esteem issues as much as being valued by foriegn womon

I might add that almost all of the men I met were convinced they were unattractive.

And they really weren't. Not just saying it to be nice either.

S.I.R · 03-01-2009 02:22AM

shqipshume wrote: »

Not know how to treat a lady right?
Why when they get to age of about 24 they start to get beer bellies and not take care of themselves like foreign men?
Why do they get Loud and drink way to much?
Why do they show respect more to foreign women then they do to their own?

Now not all but alot

I have noticed that here they really dont know how to carry on with women in right manner

lol

your clearly looking in the wrong place for fella's... if anything it proves why so many women are single :rolleyes:

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 03-01-2009 02:23AM

They say, single sex schools have less "distractions", Oh and I am sure that the church had a lot to do with single sex schools too? No? I went to a mixed and a single sex school... Much preferred the mixed school for obvious reasons. I also done really well in biology.

Latchy · 03-01-2009 02:30AM

allabouteve wrote: »

I might add that almost all of the men I met were convinced they were unattractive.

And they really weren't. Not just saying it to be nice either.

Well there ya go , although irishmen ( and i am one ) can sometimes play the lost schoolboy ,some better than others

Zaiden Sweet Grit wrote: »

They say, single sex schools have less "distractions", Oh and I am sure that the church had a lot to do with single sex schools too? No? I went to a mixed and a single sex school... Much preferred the mixed school for obvious reasons. I also done really well in biology.

Exactley and just as well i saw through their fiendish schemes when i was about ..10 .Me and trish were destined to have that kiss behind the school shed and i wasn't going to play the lost schoolboy role into adulthood either

allabouteve · 03-01-2009 02:45AM

latchyco wrote: »

Well there ya go , although irishmen ( and i am one ) can sometimes play the lost schoolboy ,some better than others

I know. They make you fall for the little boy in them, and before you know it, you've got a little boy in you.

Latchy · 03-01-2009 02:46AM

allabouteve wrote: »

I know. They make you fall for the little boy in them, and before you know it, you've got a little boy in you.

That's what they call the Irish exporia explosion

( intresting to see some irish males on the thread put a lot of it down to the school /religious system ,at least it's a point of reference for them )

g5fd6ow0hseima · 03-01-2009 02:53AM

latchyco wrote: »

That's what they call the Irish exporia explosion

( intresting to see some irish males on the thread put a lot of it down to the school /religious system ,at least it's a point of reference for them )

So in your view where does the schooling system stand in all this?

Húrin · 03-01-2009 02:57AM

Aubriella Cuddly Gout wrote: »

Yup, ive went on plenty of rants about it. People dont seem to realise that its the sole cause for friendships to occur along gender lines, as opposed to gender not being an issue.

I went to an all boys national/secondary school, ive suffered under this system.

Well I think there is a natural inclination to form more friendships with members of the same sex, though I would agree that the practically military levels of segregation in the realm of friend ship is school's fault. I'm just glad I went to a majority female third level institution, so many of my friends are girls.

allabouteve wrote: »

I might add that almost all of the men I met were convinced they were unattractive.

And they really weren't. Not just saying it to be nice either.

I am starting to see a link between this and the claim that Irish women are stuck up. Are you seeing it too?

gaeilgegrinds · 03-01-2009 02:58AM

Possibly that being segregated leads to heightened inhibitions around the opposite sex?

Why do Irish men?

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