Why do Irish men?

Sorry if you have mentioned this before shqipshume, I'm not reading the whole thread.
Your Albanian right?
Albanian builders fashion belly tops out of their clothing in hot weather.
Did the cultural signifigance of this preferance go right over my head? Is that actually intended to be an attempt to turn us womenfolk on?

Irish men are pretty bloody great tbh. Is yours not Irish?

LolaLuv

OP, I've found that Irish men are generally nicer to foreign women because they think we're easy. That's based on many experiences both me and my friends have had. Not sure why you'd be envious of that.

DenMan

PillyPen wrote: »

OP, I've found that Irish men are generally nicer to foreign women because they think we're easy. That's based on many experiences both me and my friends have had. Not sure why you'd be envious of that.

Well my last two girlfriends were Chinese and Maltese. That doesn't mean I wouldn't treat an Irish girl any different. I also open doors for them and let them through first. Simple manners and courtesy are the same the world over (at least they should be).

MIN2511

It is human nature to COMPLAIN and thats all we do, i think i might start an appreciation thread...

No country has perfect men/women, i am tired of threads stating how one race is better than the other-every person you meet is an individual irrespective of their country, race or background.

Why can't we all get along?


It's 2009, i have no resolutions but one thing i am going to aim for is to stop generalising.

Tchaikovsky

Moonbaby wrote: »

Sorry if you have mentioned this before shqipshume, I'm not reading the whole thread.
Your Albanian right?
Albanian builders fashion belly tops out of their clothing in hot weather.
Did the cultural signifigance of this preferance go right over my head? Is that actually intended to be an attempt to turn us womenfolk on?

Irish men are pretty bloody great tbh. Is yours not Irish?

From her username I thought she was Albanian aswell... a mate of mine went out with an Albanian girl a while back and she was extremely conservative, as in no drinking, smoking, laughing etc. Well it is a Muslim country.

CantGetNoSleep

Ha OP bet you are ugly and got rejected last night

Why don't you ask yourself why the f*ck do I moan about everything?

Tchaikovsky

Dude, she already said she has a boyfriend.

cashville

OP - kindly GTFO

The majority of Irish women do fu*k all as far keeping fit/sports is concerned...that and the major attitude problem most of ye's have. One too many episodes of 'Sex and the City' has warped your perception of what a normal relationship is.

Foreign women FTW

Azureus

i think a lot of Irish men dont know how to treat a lady.
i also think this applies to men the world over.
in each culture, what is the 'right' treatment varies, but as a whole chivalry and stuff is lacking in many.
then ya find a lot of irish (and probably foreign) women who dont LIKE chivalrous behaviour (some feminism buzz, i dunno!) so which of the men are right and which are wrong?!
personally, i think a lot of Irish men treat us crap, but use different standards for other women, but a lot of this could be down to how Irish women react to their treatment as wel.

that said, a lot of irish blokes are bang on and know how to keep us happy its just finding the balance as to what you want and what you get. if ya dont tell em, how are they gonna know? dont complain about something youve never asked for! i think most irish blokes would walk through fire for a girl they like once they know what way they wanted to be treated, regardless of where shes from.

also, the posts about foriegn women screwing over irish blokes? im sure theres many an irish woman who done nasty things to men for their bank balance too! same with americans etc.. sure yav only got to watch a bitta daytime telly to see that!!

I don't drink, smoke, laugh..... :-I

cendant

Samba wrote: »

Q. Why do Irish Women wear short skirts and belly tops in the middle of Winter?

I come from Siberia myself and I do put lots of layers of clothes on in the middle of winter. I always shudder when I pass Irish girls in tiny skirts and low boots standing in the freezing street with their cigarettes.

Is it sexy? No

Is it clever? No

Is it risky? You bet. A high risk of infertility, meningitis or Spanish flu.

thermo66

cendant wrote: »

I come from Siberia myself and I do put lots of layers of clothes on in the middle of winter. I always shudder when I pass Irish girls in tiny skirts and low boots standing in the freezing street with their cigarettes.

Is it sexy? No

Is it clever? No

Is it risky? You bet. A high risk of infertility, meningitis or Spanish flu.

Thats not all of us. Thats generally the fake tan (oompa loompa colour) bleached blonde variety. And its definitely not confined to Irish women but foreign women living here too. A lot of girls look at them too and wonder !! Trust me.

Havermeyer

It's all (mostly) in your head OP.

thermo66

consultech wrote: »

Irish women want to be treated as the "fairer" sex, but unfortunately there aint much that is fair about them compared to their global counterparts.

Outside of the South Dublin pretentious daddy's brigade, the north Dublin shwehh troupe, and the beer-swilling, gaelic watching regional balance; Ireland isn't exactly a veritable shmorgasboard of attractive choice.

Well ditto for the men. Cheeky or what!

I think guys don't realise the reason girls react with disgust/horror/disdain when they approach them in a club/pub/house party ... is that they either make a perverted remark,are pissed or are salivating whilst staring at your breasts. Its not rocket science. If a nice, reasonably sober guy chats to me i'll talk away to them but if any of the above start to chat me up its definitely a no go. There are nice guys out there,their just hard to find in the maze of drunks in the pub scene!!

cendant

thermo66 wrote: »

Thats not all of us. Thats generally the fake tan (oompa loompa colour) bleached blonde variety. And its definitely not confined to Irish women but foreign women living here too. A lot of girls look at them too and wonder !! Trust me.

Damn, I though that cute girl was probably from Peru but her accent deceived me. :eek:

Perhaps, she took cabs in Cork a lot of times and practiced the local soft talk (before they gradually started to replace real Cork taxi drivers with immigrants)

So you do agree it is dumb to behave like those fake tan bleached blonde type with virtually no clothes on? I saw something like that in Amsterdam, but that is a different story

The_B_Man

For every thread like this thats started in 2009, I'm gonna go out and punch a random woman in Grafton Street right in the face! Thats my new years resolution.


Hopefully they'll learn to stop complainin!!!!

shqipshume

Moonbaby wrote: »

Sorry if you have mentioned this before shqipshume, I'm not reading the whole thread.
Your Albanian right?
Albanian builders fashion belly tops out of their clothing in hot weather.
Did the cultural signifigance of this preferance go right over my head? Is that actually intended to be an attempt to turn us womenfolk on?

Irish men are pretty bloody great tbh. Is yours not Irish?

Hey no i am Irish just like the name their language and culture etc..
How did you know that was albanian word?

hahahahahaha really now how would u know they are Albanian? Did you ask them
Lol i dont care if it does or not turn you on i am not trying to get yous with them,and i am not really talking about foriegn guys comapred to irish they are all great in their own way.


I never said they werent my father was irish and my grand fathers were irish and all my cousins are.

And no my bf isnt Irish thats not the point i dont love him for his nationality i love him cause how he treats me.

shqipshume

PillyPen wrote: »

OP, I've found that Irish men are generally nicer to foreign women because they think we're easy. That's based on many experiences both me and my friends have had. Not sure why you'd be envious of that.

hey hun its not about been jealous nor is it to take away from you girls sorry if it came across like that but when some of these guys start dissing on their own i forget my manners somewhat sorry about that
Its about the way they keep putting Irish girls down here and shouldn't have put any of you down cause i know a lot of you girls are great my friends are from all different places in eastern Europe :)My best friends are ukranian and could not have asked for better gf's if i had prayed for them:o
I think yous have a lot of richness to offer Ireland just a shame that a lot of Irish men dont see that in their own women,you can see for yourself with some of the comments men have made here.They dont need to put down Irish girls just cause they have preference for non Irish girl.
Hope i said that right and didn't come across wrong:)

where are you from?
Sorry you feel like that not nice feeling to think anyone is having about you

thermo66

cendant wrote: »

Damn, I though that cute girl was probably from Peru but her accent deceived me. :eek:

Perhaps, she took cabs in Cork a lot of times and practiced the local soft talk (before they gradually started to replace real Cork taxi drivers with immigrants)

So you do agree it is dumb to behave like those fake tan bleached blonde type with virtually no clothes on? I saw something like that in Amsterdam, but that is a different story

Well its not something i would do. I think you can dress glamourously without having everything on show. I also dress in a way that makes me feel good and comfortable not necessarily to attract men.I don't think their dumb but i do wonder how they don't freeze! And i do worry about the type of men their attracting to be honest. But each to their own and all that

shqipshume

Tchaikovsky wrote: »

From her username I thought she was Albanian aswell... a mate of mine went out with an Albanian girl a while back and she was extremely conservative, as in no drinking, smoking, laughing etc. Well it is a Muslim country.

With all due respect Tchaikovsky they are not a Muslim country yes they have Muslims but we have them to in large amount and so does England,and sure doesn't England have that law whats it called dammit i cant remember but they allowed pass it there Heck that's like saying all Irish are devout catholics who go to church everyday say their prayers before they go to bed and all of them drink cause they are alcoholics now there generalization for you

They are a country that has been under a very large shadow that has just started to come out of it and learn to live and trying to understand western ways because they weren't allowed before.Where not allowed to do anything i think u would be a bit different if u were one of them.
Albanian girls that come from there are quiet yes granted but they dont mean any harm in it its their way.
And i think if your mate went out with an Albanian girl she was quiet unreformed as Albanian girls are strictly very quiet and dont usually date outside their ethnicity.Its old school with some still like it was in Ireland not twenty years ago they were still coming out of the whole dating outside their nationality and with some families here still like that.
And the whole not drinking not smoking good for her whats so weird about that?
the not laughing she probably didn't think the things said were funny

So where are you from to recognise that my user name might have been Albanian?

shqipshume

thermo66 wrote: »

Well ditto for the men. Cheeky or what!

I think guys don't realise the reason girls react with disgust/horror/disdain when they approach them in a club/pub/house party ... is that they either make a perverted remark,are pissed or are salivating whilst staring at your breasts. Its not rocket science. If a nice, reasonably sober guy chats to me i'll talk away to them but if any of the above start to chat me up its definitely a no go. There are nice guys out there,their just hard to find in the maze of drunks in the pub scene!!

hahahaha sorry the way you put that was classic

Thanks you get what i am saying and i have said hundred times over not all,Why cant some of the men well i have seen three i think agree with what we are saying.
If its not about them they should agree and say yeah cant stand men like that.
We arent talking about women here we were talking about men.Not all men just the ones who show obvious signs of what i asked in the thread starter.

And yes can be any nationality cause alot of men from all over the world carry on like that but i see the polish and other non Irish never ever diss their own women even if they are bad ones because they are of same nationality,they wouldnt stand for any other nationality either trying to rubbish they girls names.
anyway not the point i do know alot of Irish guys who are great and think the in highest esteem and respect for irish women.
Thats not who we are talking about its the ones who dont and fit into all the catergories i asked about.Not just the beer bellies thing sorry guys i didnt mean that was low and mean and not a just thing to bring up cause alot of you do take care of yourselfs and daily stress of this country would turn anyone to drinking to relax and unwind.

indough

why are irish women such approval junkies who cant just be happy in themselves, why do they believe they deserve the perfect man, knowing full well such a thing doesn't exist, then go and complain when they don't get it, despite the fact that they don't even make attempts to keep themselves in reasonable condition or strive to develop a semi-decent personality?

obviously this doesn't apply to all but i just thought i'd make a sweeping generalisation because an irish woman did something to annoy me recently :rolleyes::p:mad::D

shqipshume

indough wrote: »

why are irish women such approval junkies who cant just be happy in themselves, why do they believe they deserve the perfect man, knowing full well such a thing doesn't exist, then go and complain when they don't get it, despite the fact that they don't even make attempts to keep themselves in reasonable condition or strive to develop a semi-decent personality?

obviously this doesn't apply to all but i just thought i'd make a sweeping generalisation because an irish woman did something to annoy me recently :rolleyes::p:mad::D

Hahahaha why was i talking about you in my observations :P:D

And in answer to your question,Irish women who arent happy with themselves is societies fault.Irish women do deserve perfect man for them as do the men deserve perfect woman for them,Nothing wrong with that.Doesnt mean they are perfect just perfect for eachother
Personality cant help u there we all have flaws in them :oBut decent yes majority of irish women have very decent kind understanding and affectionate personalities.
Love my girls

haha dont get angry get even lol

indough

why do irish women have to pass the blame?

"its not our fault we act like complete ****s, its because of society and because we've been treated badly by men"

where does personal responsibility come into it? perhaps you were all treated badly by men because they were treated badly by women before that, and i dont see your point about society, modern ireland is matriarchal(sp?) imo

shqipshume

indough wrote: »

why do irish women have to pass the blame?

"its not our fault we act like complete ****s, its because of society and because we've been treated badly by men"

where does personal responsibility come into it? perhaps you were all treated badly by men because they were treated badly by women before that, and i dont see your point about society, modern ireland is matriarchal(sp?) imo

They dont were did u see me pass the blame on, you didnt answer anything i asked you lol

Anyway i am off no late night for me again lol
Happy new year indough slan leat oiche mhaith

indough

so you werent passing the blame when you said irish womens dissatisfaction within themselves was societies fault? sorry for my misunderstanding

also i cant seem to find where you asked me anything

anyway good night and sleep well

g5fd6ow0hseima

shqipshume wrote: »

Not know how to treat a lady right?
Why when they get to age of about 24 they start to get beer bellies and not take care of themselves like foreign men?
Why do they get Loud and drink way to much?
Why do they show respect more to foreign women then they do to their own?

Now not all but alot

I have noticed that here they really dont know how to carry on with women in right manner


lol

I could talk to you about this for ages, but I feel the whole tension between the sexes in this country stems from the remnants of our catholic past.

Take me:

I went to an all male primary school, and also the same for secondary school. Hardly works wonders for inter gender development.

Also, I feel that irish people play up to their image too much. they are too bothered about their reputation, which hinders the development of individual qualities. To me, most Irish girls are the same, talking to 10 is like talking to the same girl over and over,. therefore I feel most of them arent really worth the bother, as due to the whole Irish male's method of treating women as 'objects' leaves women feeling like objects. It all revolves around impressing them, being mr nice guy, as opposed to letting a woman know the true me. Thats where the difficulty arises. When I act like myself, they are somewhat dumbfounded, and then the whole 'arrongant' thing arises.

So thats it, I dont see the need to treat a girl 'right', as they are not objects. They are the same as any male to me, for were all human. Sooner women realise that, the better.

yours,

tiger325

haha whoever hurt you sounds like an idiot .

shqipshume

indough wrote: »

so you werent passing the blame when you said irish womens dissatisfaction within themselves was societies fault? sorry for my misunderstanding

also i cant seem to find where you asked me anything

anyway good night and sleep well

ok one more lol
well it was indirect question
yes i did mean for some it is society's fault that's not passing the blame that's a fact.They grow up with these ideas about how they should act and have whole other view on how they would like to act same with been treated.Its not mans fault i didn't say that its the way Ireland has become money and things and a lot of the depth i remember in this country is slowly vanishing.
anyway that's whole other thing to talk about.


Thank you night

shqipshume

Aubriella Cuddly Gout wrote: »

I could talk to you about this for ages, but I feel the whole tension between the sexes in this country stems from the remnants of our catholic past.

Take me:

I went to an all male primary school, and also the same for secondary school. Hardly works wonders for inter gender development.

Also, I feel that irish people play up to their image too much. they are too bothered about their reputation, which hinders the development of individual qualities. To me, most Irish girls are the same, talking to 10 is like talking to the same girl over and over,. therefore I feel most of them arent really worth the bother, as due to the whole Irish male's method of treating women as 'objects' leaves women feeling like objects. It all revolves around impressing them, being mr nice guy, as opposed to letting a woman know the true me. Thats where the difficulty arises. When I act like myself, they are somewhat dumbfounded, and then the whole 'arrongant' thing arises.

So thats it, I dont see the need to treat a girl 'right', as they are not objects. They are the same as any male to me, for were all human. Sooner women realise that, the better.

yours,

yeah i really see what you are saying,Nicely put

I would talk with you more maybe tomorrow if you are around
Good night take care