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Why do Irish men?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    PillyPen wrote: »
    I'm from Pennsylvania, underneath New York. You should go to the States, you'd be rolling in the men! It'd be the same problems at the end of the day, though. :(



    I'm an American, it's what we call them. I wouldn't even know what else to refer to it as, except maybe a "dinner thing". Certainly not trying to piss you off.

    Very nice heard loads about Pennsylvania :)
    I might be going to la in the summer to visit my bf brother,there wont be many men around me he might kill them lol :o:D

    Well call me old school thats what i call them aswell :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭LolaLuv


    I'm not pissed off in the slightest. But what I mean is why do we necessarily have to label them? I mean why do you have to call a date a date? It makes it more serious.

    Gotcha. Thought I had enraged your inner pedant. I think in the States a date isn't very serious. We can go on a date with someone after only one meeting, and at the end of the night if nothing comes of it that's fine. That's why we can date several people at the same time without causing offense, it just isn't a big deal there. Here it must mean more?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,644 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    yawn


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    hallstatt wrote: »
    Why when they get to age of about 24 they start to get beer bellies and not take care of themselves like foreign men?
    Cause there probably married to an irish girl, realised theve made the biggest mistake of their life and know there lifes over.
    Why do they get Loud and drink way to much?
    To try and forget about their irish wife.

    Why do they show respect more to foreign women then they do to their own?
    In hope that maybe just maybe some foreign chick that know how to treat a man might rescue them from their irish wife. :)

    Sorry to hear you feel like that,Not nice when your not happy :(


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    shqipshume wrote: »
    Very nice heard loads about Pennsylvania :)
    I might be going to la in the summer to visit my bf brother,there wont be many men around me he might kill them lol :o:D

    Well call me old school thats what i call them aswell :D

    I gotta find it incredibly interesting that you seem to be ignoring everyone else's posts and only the ones from women. It's like you started this discussion but are unwilling to hear any sides from it, in case yours is wrong.
    PillyPen wrote: »
    Gotcha. Thought I had enraged your inner pedant. I think in the States a date isn't very serious. We can go on a date with someone after only one meeting, and at the end of the night if nothing comes of it that's fine. That's why we can date several people at the same time without causing offense, it just isn't a big deal there. Here it must mean more?

    Generally the only thing irish people would hear about dating is from american tv shows and sitcoms, so to try an emulate their behavior it becomes something more serious and more important than it is, if that makes sense.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭hallstatt


    shqipshume wrote: »
    Sorry to hear you feel like that,Not nice when your not happy :(

    Well if truth be known im very happly married to --- yes a foreign woman :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    I gotta find it incredibly interesting that you seem to be ignoring everyone else's posts and only the ones from women. It's like you started this discussion but are unwilling to hear any sides from it, in case yours is wrong.

    Damn why did i ignore you?:o
    Sorry maybe i missed it :( all ears what u want to say? :)
    I ha vent ignored men i have talked to them here,And wrong is when you can prove that none of what i said is true about the particular Irish men i described.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭LolaLuv


    Generally the only thing irish people would hear about dating is from american tv shows and sitcoms, so to try an emulate their behavior it becomes something more serious and more important than it is, if that makes sense.

    That does make sense. I know several Irish/American couples. I have no idea how they got around the initial confusion!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    hallstatt wrote: »
    Well if truth be known im very happly married to --- yes a foreign woman :D

    Well very happy for you :) so what u whining about lol :D
    I have no problem with that :)

    p.s its who you are meant for and who you work with thats whats important,its not about nationality :)


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    PillyPen wrote: »
    That does make sense. I know several Irish/American couples. I have no idea how they got around the initial confusion!

    Our culture has been so pulled towards the pub scene that we do not know how to fully interact without a pint in our hands and the music blaring so loud that the only way to talk is through charades. The amount of times I've wanted to meet girls (yes, I guess you can call it a date) and their first idea is a pub is incredible.

    And if you try to mention anything different (a cafe, a moonlit walk to some bench where you can sit and talk) they think you're being weird.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭LolaLuv


    Our culture has been so pulled towards the pub scene that we do not know how to fully interact without a pint in our hands and the music blaring so loud that the only way to talk is through charades. The amount of times I've wanted to meet girls (yes, I guess you can call it a date) and their first idea is a pub is incredible.

    And if you try to mention anything different (a cafe, a moonlit walk to some bench where you can sit and talk) they think you're being weird.

    That makes sense the way you explained it, but how do people ever get to know each other? In the US that's the point of a date, I can't imagine how that'd be done drinking in a pub. (I never realized how American my approach to relationships is before. :o)


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    PillyPen wrote: »
    That makes sense the way you explained it, but how do people ever get to know each other? In the US that's the point of a date, I can't imagine how that'd be done drinking in a pub. (I never realized how American my approach to relationships is before. :o)

    That happens over time, slowly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    PillyPen wrote: »
    (I never realized how American my approach to relationships is before. :o)
    Dating 3 , 4 ,5 people at once .

    How very American and intresting ! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭LolaLuv


    That happens over time, slowly.

    And that's why I think Irish women have the patience of saints. :D
    latchyco wrote: »
    Dating 3 , 4 ,5 people at once , how very American and intresting !

    Damn right! Nothing wrong with that! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭Tchaikovsky


    shqipshume wrote: »
    So where are you from to recognise that my user name might have been Albanian? ;)
    Shqipri is the Albanian word for Albania isn't it? I'm just an educated Irishman, ha!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,719 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    That happens over time, slowly.

    Or not at all if marriage is your aim.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    PillyPen wrote: »
    Damn right! Nothing wrong with that! :pac:
    Absoutley .In ireland it would be called 2,3,4 timing :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭von Neumann


    A one word answer, BEER.

    We (irish) drink way too much of it, get a belly and can't do exrcise because of the hangovers. it's a very vicious circle :(.
    Irish men in particular drink even more beer, because we know we are terrible at chatting to the fairer sex (see comments in previous 6 pages).
    So we slowly spiral downwards :(.

    Irish dating needs a total overhaul.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭LolaLuv


    latchyco wrote: »
    Absoutley .In ireland it would be called 2,3,4 timing :)

    That's not good...even if it's only your first date with each guy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    Shqipri is the Albanian word for Albania isn't it? I'm just an educated Irishman, ha!
    Ah i am impressed most people only know it as Albania not by its Albanian name.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,813 ✭✭✭themadchef


    Don't know if you'd call them the good auld days but.... There was a time not so very long ago when (if you were a bloke) you literally just decided who you'd marry. You'd land down to their auld fella with a bottle of whiskey and thrash out a dowrey.

    Planned marriages. No dating bull :D. No checking out the hardware, or test driving the merchandise! Ya just hoped to fcuk yore Da didnt pick a right donkey for ya and that he didint live too far away to walk home now and then for a visit!

    We are living the dream now girls!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭hallstatt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    Generally the only thing irish people would hear about dating is from american tv shows and sitcoms, so to try an emulate their behavior it becomes something more serious and more important than it is, if that makes sense.

    I think the exact opposite - its so casual and not-serious over there. You see Friends - some guy goes up to a girl "You look nice, wanna go on a date sometime!" Imagine you tried that here! Not saying thats how it actually happens in the States, but I definitely don't agree that dates comes across as a big deal in these shows - its usually just a cup of coffee or cinema - just coz they don't go to the pub doesn't make it any more serious.

    I was in Chicago during the summer - its so much easier to meet girls over there - it just seems natural to start talking to some nice girl at a bar or club and they are always happy to talk. I don't remember being frozen out once over there. Really ****in' hot ones too. Having said that I didn't really ask them on a date - just asked them if they want to come to the pub.:D I guess the fact I was Irish they expected it so didn't mind!! So PillyPen, there really is no barrier between the two styles once you can adapt - I personally found it easier to interact with American girls and got with some way hotter than ones who mightn't give me a chance over here.

    Of course, th accent helps weirdly. Over here, its a bogger accent; over there its exotic. Go figure.:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    A one word answer, BEER.

    We (irish) drink way too much of it, get a belly and can't do exrcise because of the hangovers. it's a very vicious circle :(.
    Irish men in particular drink even more beer, because we know we are terrible at chatting to the fairer sex (see comments in previous 6 pages).
    So we slowly spiral downwards :(.

    Irish dating needs a total overhaul.

    Now dont knock yourself never said Irish guys we rent decent hearted guys,Just the Irish guys need to take a stand and not be afraid to ask a woman out when they aren't drunk and dont ask a woman were she wants to go take her there.:)
    Irish women have a problem,if a guy asks them where u wanna go they are all polite and say the cinema or pub or ah its ok you decide,when she says that means she would like to go to beach or cafe or lunch or dinner or ice skating or something else.
    Forget i said anything about the whole weight thing sorry about that i didnt mean that :(
    Just i feel if they did take care of themselves more so would the women and they all would feel better about themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭MIN2511


    I think the exact opposite - its so casual and not-serious over there. You see Friends - some guy goes up to a girl "You look nice, wanna go on a date sometime!" Imagine you tried that here! Not saying thats how it actually happens in the States, but I definitely don't agree that dates comes across as a big deal in these shows - its usually just a cup of coffee or cinema - just coz they don't go to the pub doesn't make it any more serious.

    I was in Chicago during the summer - its so much easier to meet girls over there - it just seems natural to start talking to some nice girl at a bar or club and they are always happy to talk. I don't remember being frozen out once over there. Really ****in' hot ones too. Having said that I didn't really ask them on a date - just asked them if they want to come to the pub.:D I guess the fact I was Irish they expected it so didn't mind!! So PillyPen, there really is no barrier between the two styles once you can adapt - I personally found it easier to interact with American girls and got with some way hotter than ones who mightn't give me a chance over here.

    Of course, th accent helps weirdly. Over here, its a bogger accent; over there its exotic. Go figure.:p
    I am a chick and i agree, in the states they are more forward... Sometimes i think the Irish dating scene is a big "game" and i hate that!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    themadchef wrote: »
    Don't know if you'd call them the good auld days but.... There was a time not so very long ago when (if you were a bloke) you literally just decided who you'd marry. You'd land down to their auld fella with a bottle of whiskey and thrash out a dowrey.

    Planned marriages. No dating bull :D. No checking out the hardware, or test driving the merchandise! Ya just hoped to fcuk yore Da didnt pick a right donkey for ya and that he didint live too far away to walk home now and then for a visit!

    We are living the dream now girls!

    Yep and the dad and grandad and all the uncles in the room sizing you up ready to shoot you if you make wrong move :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,644 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    yawn yawn yawn


    Maybe the angst shown is because Valentine's Day is around the corner and some of you will be on your own? Get over it ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,719 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    I think the exact opposite - its so casual and not-serious over there. You see Friends - some guy goes up to a girl "You look nice, wanna go on a date sometime!" Imagine you tried that here! Not saying thats how it actually happens in the States, but I definitely don't agree that dates comes across as a big deal in these shows - its usually just a cup of coffee or cinema - just coz they don't go to the pub doesn't make it any more serious.

    What he's saying is that because we're emulating it we end up warping it into something more serious than it is. We see it as a big deal to go on a date, Americans don't. Which is why they go on more of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    PillyPen wrote: »
    That's not good...even if it's only your first date with each guy?
    Well to be honest ,it would need superhuman efforts to date 4 or 5 people in Ireland ( specialy all at once ) But the two timing is usually somebody cheating enjoying the best of both worlds until they decide who they want to be with ( or who makes the best offer ;))


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Originally Posted by A Primal Nut
    I think the exact opposite - its so casual and not-serious over there. You see Friends - some guy goes up to a girl "You look nice, wanna go on a date sometime!" Imagine you tried that here! usually just a cup of coffee or cinema - just coz they don't go to the pub doesn't make it any more serious.
    That's the way it should be imo .Imagine the hassle you both save each other if you can cut through the bull**** that goes with the whole macho drink culture that is Ireland and find the real person under all the booze ? LOL


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