Anyone Here From Ballinrobe?

PogMoThoin · 09-12-2008 6:23pm #1

Who's the ignorant fúcker who parks his Silver 02 Avensis on the left on the way in2 the town from Castlebar. On double yellow lines beside a major junction, I might add, the Garda station is on the same street, do they not notice? I suspect its the butcher as its parked right outside the shop. It causes a traffic problems every time I pass. Maybe we might name and shame him, show him this thread, cos it really got on my tits today?

/Rant over

thekooman · 09-12-2008 7:02pm

its usually up on the curb and 2 cars can pass fine but some people think it might be too narrow to make it.if a car and lorry meet someone has to give the right of way. bit of a pisser but since he owes the place sure he has to park somewhere! i only work in ballinrobe

PogMoThoin · 09-12-2008 7:16pm

But its parked on double yellow lines.........Do Gardai get free meat in Ballinrobe, maybe he sells doughnuts?

bandit197 · 09-12-2008 7:27pm

Double yellow lines = No parking. End of.

Bob the Builder · 09-12-2008 8:50pm

PogMoThoin wrote: »

But its parked on double yellow lines.........Do Gardai get free meat in Ballinrobe, maybe he sells doughnuts?

There are no gardaí now. They all got recalled in this latest Pork crisis.

hughs · 10-12-2008 11:47pm

Yes - you are right, it is the butchers car mainly. Sometimes, customers also park there. A mumber of year ago, maybe even 10 years ago at this stage, there were no double yellow lines on that side of the road. The council were planning on putting a double yellow line on the road, and some how the butcher got them not to put a double yellow line for about 3 car spaces outside his shop. So he is not actually parking on double yellow line!!:)

Gun_Slinger · 11-12-2008 12:47pm

I pass this shop everyday and see the car there. To be honest where the car is parked 2 cars and even a lorry and a car can pass it fairly easily. It is the 98 fiat punto drivers who are afraid to scratch their wing mirror by passing it that hold up the traffic. And in the overall scheme of things this car has absolutely nothing to do with the sh*te traffic situation in Balinrobe.

So some advise when passing the shop:
If driving towards Castlebar, keep to the left hand side of the road.
If driving from Castlebar, keep a little to the right and this will prompt oncoming cars to move slightly to the left so 2 cars can easily pass. When you pass the car slow down (you probably will already be stuck in traffic) and admire the beautiful town of Balinrobe :eek:

PogMoThoin · 11-12-2008 6:04pm

Gun_Slinger wrote: »

So some advise when passing the shop:
If driving towards Castlebar, keep to the left hand side of the road.
If driving from Castlebar, keep a little to the right and this will prompt oncoming cars to move slightly to the left so 2 cars can easily pass.

I drive as part of my job, don't tell me how to do my job and I won't tell you how to sweep up.

Double yellow lines or not the fact of the matter is that this car causes an obstruction every day and he's too ignorant to park somewhere else, surely his shop has a back entrance. Also because he's parked there his customers feel they can also park there, maybe not as tight to the curb as the Avensis causing major problems.

hughs · 11-12-2008 9:40pm

You should go in to the shop. He is funny in a weird way. I have heard of customers going in there and if the phone is ringing he'll tell them to "answer that f***ing thing". He actually sells top quality meat though!!!

Gun_Slinger · 11-12-2008 9:42pm

PogMoThoin wrote: »

I drive as part of my job, don't tell me how to do my job

Well done, so do I. I suggest you get a change of job if this car parked here stresses you out so much. There is a damn sight worse on the roads than a car parked on the side of the street.

As I said before, this car has feck all to do with the majority of traffic problems in Balinrobe so lighten up

PogMoThoin · 11-12-2008 10:41pm

But it has, from what I've seen any time I've come through, is that this car is the one of the main causes of traffic problems, the traffic caught up at this car backs up the junction with the Claremorris rd.

Whats the legal distance Your allowed to park from a major junction? Anyone know?

elurhs · 16-12-2008 11:11pm

You're not wrong about that. It might not be the main cause of the traffic problem but it sure as hell doesn't help. There must be an understanding of some kind with the cops. That kind of attitude from the powers that be is a lot of what is wrong with this country. Surely an accommodation could be found with the council to provide a free parking spot where traffic is not obstructed?

Also, I see another prominent Ballinrobe businessman is in dispute with the council over double yellow lines.:rolleyes:

Anyway, the recession has probably set back the bypass for another 10 years. We'll have flying cars before Ballinrobe is bypassed!

JOM34 · 18-12-2008 7:34pm

PogMoThoin wrote: »

I drive as part of my job, don't tell me how to do my job and I won't tell you how to sweep up.

Ignorant pr!ck's reply!!!!

As far as I'm aware....this parking arrangment has been agreed with the Co. Co. You'll notice the break in the yellow lines. Everyone locally is aware of an initial dispute between the shop owner & the co. co., the majority of locals backed the shop owner in this instance. This business has been at that location since pre 1950. There is no rear entrance/loading access for the shop. If you've got such an issue with it call into the shop. Reckon you'll come out with your tail between your legs!!!!

PogMoThoin · 18-12-2008 7:53pm

JOM34 wrote: »

As far as I'm aware....this parking arrangment has been agreed with the Co. Co. You'll notice the break in the yellow lines. Everyone locally is aware of an initial dispute between the shop owner & the co. co., the majority of locals backed the shop owner in this instance. This business has been at that location since pre 1950. There is no rear entrance/loading access for the shop. If you've got such an issue with it call into the shop. Reckon you'll come out with your tail between your legs!!!!

This is exactly what has this country the way it is........"Ah sure he's grand, Ah sure he's a nice old devil, Ah sure isn't it good enough".................................................

Bollox, this is unacceptable. He causes a major obstruction in the town every day and is too ignorant park somewhere proper, he's the one who's the Ignorant pr!ck

Edit: just did a google image search with "bridge street ballinrobe", guess what the 1st pic that jumped off the page was..........His fcuking Avensis. ROFL

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banshee_bones · 19-12-2008 3:36am

**shocked that ballinrobe even HAS the internet

didnt there used to be a car that was parked further down like just past the bridge that was ALWAYS there..i know it used to drive someone completely mental!

PogMoThoin · 19-12-2008 9:32am

What about the rest of the people living on this street? Do they not have cars or is it just that they have some decency?

JOM34 · 19-12-2008 3:05pm

If this is winding you up so bad I reckon you should pop in and have it out with him. Ranting on some obscure messageboard is hardly the way to solve your issue.

PogMoThoin · 19-12-2008 5:52pm

Maybe the people of Ballinrobe should leave the town, just once, just to see how traffic flows nicely in Castlebar, Westport and Ballina without some thick ignorant butcher holding things up cos he refuses to have a small walk to his shop each day. These towns have bigger parking restrictions and cause bigger inconvenience to shopkeepers. I could understand if it was short term with a delivery vehicle, shops have got to get deliveries, but he's obviously not delivering meat with an Avensis.

oscarBravo · 19-12-2008 6:16pm

Probably more accurate to say traffic flows nicely in Westport except when some genius parks in the middle of the street and clogs things up.

Which happens a lot.

car driver boy · 20-12-2008 1:27am

I live in Ballinrobe and have been onto the council about this driver and his parking and I might as well talk to a brick wall I would get more sense out of it . I would love the job of the traffic warden in this town at least I would have a easy job. I have seen him give out tickets to people on double yellows but not down bridge street I think this butcher is above the law:mad:

car driver boy · 20-12-2008 1:31am

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Maybe the people of Ballinrobe should leave the town, just once, just to see how traffic flows nicely in Castlebar, Westport and Ballina without some thick ignorant butcher holding things up cos he refuses to have a small walk to his shop each day. These towns have bigger parking restrictions and cause bigger inconvenience to shopkeepers. I could understand if it was short term with a delivery vehicle, shops have got to get deliveries, but he's obviously not delivering meat with an Avensis.

I did leave the town once but foud the traffic much better and atleast the traffic wardens do there jobs in these towns not like the sargent maor of ballinrobe.

donmeister · 20-12-2008 1:07pm

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Anybody here from Ballinrobe?

No,thank god

Slick Driver · 23-12-2008 6:39pm

Hi all to this to topic. Firstly the guy lives on the street so he dont drive to work and the the people from Ballinrobe here should know that if they know anything about their town. The kiss me arse self confessed professional driver has not mentioned anything about the stop sign at Stauntons corner he encounters after he passes this car where you turn right to go to Galway, where all the traffic backs up. Then after this sign you encounter another stop sign again at Supermacs which backs the traffic up New Street and sometimes back as far ast the church gates. This butcher earns his living by selling meat and you want him to lie down and let the council **** his business by stopping customers going into his shop. Everybody blames him for traffic in the town as he is visable target and with this in mind I challanger anyone to spend time with me and to see what and where the traffic backs up in the town which is mainly at Stauntons corner and supermacs.

car driver boy · 23-12-2008 7:07pm

read the western people this week it goes on about the lack of commitment from the traffic warden as to the car outside his shop if he lives there then he don't need the car parked outside his shop i know stautons corner i lived in that street so i know what the traffics like. also outside supermacs with the traffis building back up new st. I see the stop sign so what its the idiot that parks outside the shop and on the corners that cause the problems we have plenty of car parks in ballinrobe try getting round abbey st from the hill with cars parked outside the bookies then start to complain. the car is parked illegally so it should be moved or or given a ticket the law states that a car parked on doble yellows should not be parked there.

Slick Driver · 24-12-2008 12:36pm

Car boy
He is allowed to park there and so are customers as 15 minutes permitted parking sign on wall so traffic warden hands are tied. I know Liam (butcher) has got fines for parking there and still will park there so his customers wont be frightened away. If this car was not there you will only get to stop sign at Stauntons quicker and be backed up there. Car boy you accept traffic builds up at Stauntons and supermacs so why are you arguing re this parked car as no one car prove this car solely causes traffic problems in Ballinrobe. I have being in traffic jams back to race course on Castlebar road and after passing the said car I spend longer at Stauntons corner and when get by there join another back up at the dry cleaners. sO WHATS THE REAL PROBLEM WITH THIS CAR !!!!!!!!

car driver boy · 24-12-2008 12:53pm

i have a problem as this car is parked there all day not 15 minutes "AS THE SIGN SAY'S" so what if you get backed up at the corners thats what county engineers have done to this town making it a big roundabout one way in one way round one way out double yellow lines are the same in any country no parking full stop.I agree the traffic is bad comming in to ballinrobe but there was one day the car was not parked outside the shop but parked at the bowers and guess what no traffic jam I rest my case

Slick Driver · 24-12-2008 4:47pm

I agree with the 15 minutes parking and he there longer than 15 minutes and explained why de does in last message. Please walk down high street outside the said shop and there are no double yellow lines so people can park there so your case busted. No lines can park !!!!!!

Its impossible for traffic to run free when this car not there due to the stop signs at stauntons and supermacs and please you go out and see this for yourself as I still live in the town unlike you who used too (you said earlier). This is most evident on day of the races when the Garda have high street cleared and a guard at stauntons and supermacs to keep traffic flowing so case closed. Next time you reply please state facts and not common assumptions of the general public !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Happy Christmass

car driver boy · 25-12-2008 9:09pm

slick driver I see you have made a comment about no lines maybe you should believe in santa as i went down bridge street and the car was there but so were the yellow lines not so clear but they are there maybe miracles do happen at Christmas.I do live in ballinrobe but not in glebe st so I do see plenty of traffic and by some choice i'm glad I don't, so I do state facts not common assumptions. And in the new year the council will be re linnigs bridge st. I agree that the traffic is not run free but while engineers stick their nose's in Ballinrobe it will never be roll on the bypass.Merry Christmas

Slick Driver · 29-12-2008 6:00pm

The lnes that you see were covered over by the council and whatever they covered them with is fading away. Thus the lines are not official and covered by council two years ago. They even placed a sign on the wall permitting 15 minute parking so oplease walk down again look for sign this time. Also walk around town when traffic is busy and you will see excatly where traffic is being held up and its the places I mentioned in previous posts

car driver boy · 29-12-2008 6:52pm

to save this argument going any further I will be contacting the council to see what the real story is if I am wrong I am big enough to appoligise as I have been led down the wrong path by information from mayo coco but this with the lines being covered over they should get rid of the lines more permanently not just covering if this is the case and the sign on the wall I have seen but like I said 15 mins is not all day is it

Oldtree · 29-12-2008 7:22pm

Double yellow lines were painted last year (i think) and subsequently obscured by tar. The council have also tried to paint yellow lines outside Cummins and have failed there too.

I think that some of the posters here should relax a little and think of about the need for local jobs which stem from this butcher and the butchers entitlement to earn and protect his own living too. Admittedly there may be a delay at peak time but otherwise there is no delay.

If the council wanted to make a court issue out of this, I'm sure they would have by now, but they may not have a leg to stand on. I am not sure, but dosn't the 7 year planning rule come into play here?

The upshot of all this is I would ask anyone who has a problem with the traffic situation in Ballinrobe to get on to the council and the councillors and apply pressure on getting the bypass built, this is the only real solution here. It is most certainly not the shopkeepers problem that the infastructure is not here, and overlooked during the tiger, in ballinrobe to meet the demands of impatient passersby.

Sadly funding is not available for the bypass until 2015 or sometime thereafter, so try meditation and let the man get on with earning a living.

car driver boy · 29-12-2008 8:32pm

hi Oldtree I don't believe these lines were redone last year and not outside cummins there are plenty of parking spaces in new st so why cant they put car parking outside butchers I would be happy for tempoary parking for this matter but my argument is why should people be allowed to park on double yellow lines when other people are not allowed ( not myself at the moment)
I agree if the council have a problem then they would of taken this further action but as I said I have wrote to the council and now wait their reply

Bob the Builder · 29-12-2008 8:50pm

Oldtree wrote: »

Sadly funding is not available for the bypass until 2015 or sometime thereafter, so try meditation and let the man get on with earning a living.

****.

We have the NRA in Ballina, and can't even get a road done around here unless we have a local politician in the cabinet. Yet they throw money east of the shannon like confetti. Useless Shower.

Oldtree · 30-12-2008 7:32pm

Hello to you too, I would bet money on the reply being an acknowledgement, €1 are you on?

The double yellow lines outside the butchers were painted recently, but my "recently" may in fact be a number of years ago!

and then "obscured" rather quickly with black paint/tar......

But I am not sure if there were double yellow lines there to begin with

so the butcher may be in the right fighting his corner with the much loved establishment that is MCC.

I have heard that the council line painters pulled up outside cummins a few weeks ago to paint lines and were quickly moved on by you know who!?!?!? :rolleyes:

But at least the money has been spent on the public consultation as to where the bypass should be built, and that now allows the planning department to let people build their houses, whatever about the actual bypass itself. :eek:

Slick Driver · 30-12-2008 9:51pm

Hi Oldtree and very logic explaination and people forget we live in a town and not onta dual carriage way as said to me lately. Locals want to get rid of parking on our streets to faciliate people passing throught our town and deprive locals of being able to pull up our cars at shops and run in for a message or whatever. When all this parking is gone people in here fighting to get rid of same will be crying about lack of parking. I travel up to Dublin alot for work and can remember Moate town with its big wide streets and parked cars not obstructing the through traffic and yet still you could be caught in a traffic jam miles outside the town before the by pass opened.
Regardless of lines covered outside jennings shop or not, the council still have not removed the permitted 15 minutes parking sign and sure they would have if parking was not permitted and this saga is going on for eight years now. The council promised to devolope car parking at the old derlict building beside them at a public meeting 8 years ago and still have not kept their promise.
I am sure lines were put down outside cummins and will check as know of people working there.
Parking is essential for the shop keepers and cumtomers alike as onvience for everyone and not one has agreed with the problem being at Stauntons and supermacs. If the council are so worried about the free flowing traffic in Ballinrobe why the hell did the bring the foot path so far out onto the road at supermac junction which makes it so hard for 2 cars to pass at the same time. ie 1 to kilmaine and other to the neale and i dont think they have any plans to widen this junction. Please give feed back on this comment

Oldtree · 01-01-2009 12:22pm

I think the councils adgenda was to create a continential type square opposite supermacs and then that would be followed with a one way system around ballinrobe, which sounds sensible. No need to remove any of the parking spaces in front of the shops and a nice public space (as seen on jaunts to the continent).

But in my opinion this was done (as usual) on the cheap. The council did not set up traffic lights at the various junctions, which would compliment/allow for/control the actual flow of traffic. All they did was change one stop sign, which made a mess of things as everybody was used to the way it was (I feel this was this was dangerous) and so the council then changed the sign back and that was the end of their great effort to solve the traffic problem here.

4 sets of traffic lights at the 4 central junctions, would go a long way to easing the backup of peak time traffic in ballinrobe.

PogMoThoin · 01-01-2009 12:59pm

Oldtree wrote: »

4 sets of traffic lights at the 4 central junctions, would go a long way to easing the backup of peak time traffic in ballinrobe.

...............and enforced double yellows on bridge street outside the butchers, would go a long way to solving all the problems

Ballinrobe is not alone, all major towns in Mayo have been revamped to allow for smoother passing traffic. The roads are much busier, most families have 2 vehicles. Look at every other town in Mayo.
Coming originally from Charlestown which lost its parking on The Square years ago, I've seen what it does. Ok the business people were very upset at first, My Father included, even revolted and staged a protest at the time. But the town was actually better for it, never any traffic problems afterwards, except for on a Sunday evening at 6 with the students travelling by bus back to colleges Nationwide (6 or 8 busses at once as its on a crossroads).
Times have changed now completely once again with the N5 bypass with only Sligo/Galway traffic passing through the town, there's even talk of them changing the right of way now to the Sligo/Galway traffic............Life goes on.

Oldtree · 01-01-2009 5:28pm

nonsense.

The actual impact of the butchers car on traffic is almost nil given that there is always a que further up the hill and round the corner to the aforementioned stop sign.

The actual impact of lost business to any business in ballinrobe has wider negative implications for the local economy, than any benifit to said local economy from through traffic.

Please see :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Nice Uncle P · 09-03-2009 8:05pm

i qoute We have the NRA in Ballina, and can't even get a road done around here unless we have a local politician in the cabinet. Yet they throw money east of the shannon like confetti. Useless Shower.

Well compare the population difference! please think and look at population statistics before coming up with such parish pump politics rubbish. THis decade has seen unprecedented State infrastructural investment in co mayo, eg the Knock/Claremorris bypass and the Swinford/Charlestown bypass, as well as the new west Road to Croagh Patrick and the improvements to the Newport-Castlebar Road.
Having a minister at cabinet level is imaterial. Co Clare (which has no senior cabinet minister either) is west of the Shannon, look at the completed Ennis Bypass, and the Gort bypass and the Shannon River tunnell under construction. It simply boils down to the population density of the region the area is in.

Oldtree · 13-03-2009 7:59pm

"It simply boils down to the population density of the region the area is in."

well that explains why the roads and infastructure in mayo are so cronic, all the money has been spent pro rata somewhere other than lovely Mayo!

The census of 2006:-

http://www.cso.ie/statistics/popofeachprovcountycity2006.htm

State 4,239,848

Dublin 1,187,176 28% (92,227 hectares)

Leinster 2,295,123 54%

Mayo 123,839 3% (558,605 hectares 6 times the size of Dublin)

Mayo is the third largest county in Ireland.

http://www.cso.ie/studentscorner/statsfactsmayo.htm
http://www.cso.ie/studentscorner/statsfactsdublin.htm

Svalbard · 14-03-2009 9:03pm

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banshee_bones wrote: »

**shocked that ballinrobe even HAS the internet

Wow, you people have managed to get 3 pages out of an illegally parked car. Glad I don't live in Ballinrobe.

PogMoThoin · 14-03-2009 10:54pm

Svalbard wrote: »

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Wow, you people have managed to get 3 pages out of an illegally parked car. Glad I don't live in Ballinrobe.

Yes, and the shocking thing is the people of the town actually posted here to commend this guys courageous crusade against the council.

icanchange49 · 14-03-2009 10:59pm

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Who's the ignorant fúcker who parks his Silver 02 Avensis on the left on the way in2 the town from Castlebar. On double yellow lines beside a major junction, I might add, the Garda station is on the same street, do they not notice? I suspect its the butcher as its parked right outside the shop. It causes a traffic problems every time I pass. Maybe we might name and shame him, show him this thread, cos it really got on my tits today?

/Rant over

I was told that somebody was going on here about the ways I'm parking. That's my car and I'll park it where I like!!!

PogMoThoin · 15-03-2009 11:43am

icanchange49 wrote: »

I was told that somebody was going on here about the ways I'm parking. That's my car and I'll park it where I like!!!

Ok, if its really You, it was definitely parked on double yellows on friday when I passed, the back left tyre was sitting on the lines. Why do You feel you're beyond laws? You force cars to cross the white line just to pass Your car.

Oldtree · 15-03-2009 12:29pm

Svalbard wrote: »

Wow, you people have managed to get 3 pages out of an illegally parked car. Glad I don't live in Ballinrobe.

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Yes, and the shocking thing is the people of the town actually posted here to commend this guys courageous crusade against the council.

It has already been pointed out that there is a persons living at stake here and it should come as no surprise that there is strong local support for that issue. It is good to note that the council's in your neck of the woods never put a foot wrong..... whereas here in Mayo they can be imperfect at times.

icanchange49 · 16-03-2009 11:07pm

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Ok, if its really You, it was definitely parked on double yellows on friday when I passed, the back left tyre was sitting on the lines. Why do You feel you're beyond laws? You force cars to cross the white line just to pass Your car.

Oh blowdry. btw I'm not;)

Oldtree · 17-03-2009 10:46am

lol raof lol

:D:D;)

Svalbard · 17-03-2009 7:19pm

Oldtree wrote: »

It has already been pointed out that there is a persons living at stake here and it should come as no surprise that there is strong local support for that issue. It is good to note that the council's in your neck of the woods never put a foot wrong..... whereas here in Mayo they can be imperfect at times.

So its 2009 and JM Synge's opinion of people from the west of Ireland still rings true.

-Mistrust for the rule of law - check

-Support for someone who is clearly breaking the law, elevating him to 'workaday' hero status - check.

'Strong local support for that issue' - oh, stick it to the man!!!!

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

Oldtree · 17-03-2009 7:44pm

Rule of law! I think you might mean "law onto themselves" when it comes to the council or I might cry "what law"

See the backing documentation for this planning application for a quarry on a limestone pavement.

http://www.mayococo.ie/PlanSearch/mcc4/PlanningViewer/displayafile.asp?filenum=061588&la=1

Incomplete application

http://www.mayococo.ie/PlanSearch/mcc4/PlanningViewer/displayafile.asp?filenum=07166&la=1

Refused

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/228086.htm

Refused. Read the boards decision.

It might interest you to know that a complaint was lodged with the council planning enforcement unit in May 2005 by the Irish Concrete Federation and a warning letter issued to cease works. Works did not cease and no action was than taken. Activity continues and No action has yet been taken by said council. What of the limestone pavement protected in 1992 under EU law?!?!?!? law?

Mistrust for the rule of council law - check

Support for someone who is not breaking the law - check.

Strong local support for that issue of a man umong other men (and women) who will not be stood on by official eejets who do not discuss plans with the common person.

It is so sad that this council is like it is.

Svalbard · 17-03-2009 7:47pm

Oldtree wrote: »

Rule of law! I think you might mean "law onto themselves" when it comes to the council or I might cry "what law"

See the backing documentation for this planning application for a quarry on a limestone pavement.

http://www.mayococo.ie/PlanSearch/mcc4/PlanningViewer/displayafile.asp?filenum=061588&la=1

Incomplete application

http://www.mayococo.ie/PlanSearch/mcc4/PlanningViewer/displayafile.asp?filenum=07166&la=1

Refused

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/228086.htm

Refused.

It might interest you to know that a complaint was lodged with the council planning enforcement unit in May 2005 by the Irish Concrete Federation and a warning letter issued to cease works. Works did not cease and no action was than taken. Activity continues and No action has yet been taken by said council. What of the limestone pavement protected in 1992 under EU law?!?!?!? law?

Mistrust for the rule of council law - check

Support for someone who is not breaking the law - check.

Strong local support for that issue of a man umong other men (and women) who will not be stood on by official eejets who do not discuss plans with the common person.

It is so sad that this council is like it is.

Uh-hmmmmmmmm

Yup

Not really sure what your county council conspiracy theory has to do with anything.

Run out there and check if he's still illegally parked. He is? He shouldn't be.

Oldtree · 18-03-2009 7:51pm

I was just trying to put in perspective that a car parked on (debatable) yellow lines is not as large an issue as the destruction of a large area of limestone pavement. Which is more illegal, and why would you expect the council to deal with a minor issue such as the car when they will not deal with the quarry?

Anyone Here From Ballinrobe?

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