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Historic Dublin Pictures & Videos Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭Exit


    Nothing special, but I came across this site where a couple of tourists have uploaded their photos of Dublin in 1985 - http://blogtrotta80s.blogspot.com/2007/07/james-joyces-land-august-1985.html

    It's fun to see the Dublin of my childhood, but I don't remember at all the building having Sony on it. What is that building anyway? I always had assumed it was Heineken offices but it's presumably not.

    Also, someone tell us about Bartley Dunnes. Someone in the comments calls it "one of the strangest pubs in dublin folklore" Why?

    EDIT: Oh, and it seems some of you are ex-Ballymunners. I am too, well kinda. My great-grandmother, grandparents and my mother and uncles lived in a cottage at Ballymun Cross. I lived there too for the first few months of my life before we moved to Clonshaugh. It was the house directly in front of you as you came up Santry Lane (my memory tells me it's Lane, but I second guessed myself and checked Google Earth which says Santry Avenue. I feel stupid now because I traveled up that road every day for years. Which is it?)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    Indeed - they are 'Anna Livia' and 'Atlantic' - the two keystones from the 1792 bridge which was named after the Lord Lieutenant Frederick Howard, Earl of Carlisle.

    When the trams were introduced, this bridge was considered too steep and it was decided to construct a flatter bridge. This was undertaken by Brindon Blood Stoney, the great engineer of the Dublin Port and Docks. Two new keystones were used with Anna Livia looking up-river and Atlantic facing east. This new bridge opened in 1880.

    (I might have a couple of pictures of the old bridge. I'll have a look).

    Coincidently, there's a pic in today's Irish Times Weekend section of a Charles Russell painting of the bridge in 1875.

    oconnell-bridge-1875-painting.jpg

    (was across 2 pages so had to splice it)


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,954 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Thanks for that link. Some interesting pics and great for car spotters like me! :)
    Exit wrote: »
    It's fun to see the Dublin of my childhood, but I don't remember at all the building having Sony on it
    It had SONY on it for years - most of the 1980s anyway and probably into the 1990s. Whenever I caught a glimpse of it , it used to remind me of an old flame. I haven't looked closely at it lately but a few years ago you could still see an outline of the letters S, O, N and Y.

    (TENNANTS had an advert there too if memory serves me correctly).
    Exit wrote:
    What is that building anyway? I always had assumed it was Heineken offices but it's presumably not
    I can recall it's name now but I presume it's just offices. I'd very much doubt that it had anything to do with Heineken but is used to derive income from it's prime advertising location.
    Exit wrote:
    Also, someone tell us about Bartley Dunnes. Someone in the comments calls it "one of the strangest pubs in dublin folklore" Why?
    I don't know. I've never been in there although I think I may have been in Break for the Border.
    Exit wrote:
    It was the house directly in front of you as you came up Santry Lane (my memory tells me it's Lane, but I second guessed myself and checked Google Earth which says Santry Avenue. I feel stupid now because I traveled up that road every day for years. Which is it?)
    I've always known it as Santry Avenue but I have heard it called Santry Lane.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,954 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    tricky D wrote: »
    Coincidently, there's a pic in today's Irish Times Weekend section of a Charles Russell painting of the bridge in 1875.

    (was across 2 pages so had to splice it)
    Great stuff - thanks for that. I couldn't locate a pic although I have one somewhere.

    If you look closely at the parapets on each side you can see the slight curve which made it unsuitable for trams.

    Notice how far up the ship is as Butt bridge wasn't opened until 1879.

    What was the occasion - Daniel O'Connell/emancipation or something like that?

    * runs out to get a copy of the Times* :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    Exit wrote: »
    Also, someone tell us about Bartley Dunnes. Someone in the comments calls it "one of the strangest pubs in dublin folklore" Why?

    There was a weird cross section of people: scumpunks, goths, hippies, acid heads, straights, lesbians, gays,..... anything 'liberal' and narcotic - you name it.

    It was indeed where Break for the Border is, but it was much much smaller and the entrance faced the Hairy Lemon.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    Great stuff - thanks for that. I couldn't locate a pic although I have one somewhere.

    If you look closely at the parapets on each side you can see the slight curve which made it unsuitable for trams.

    Notice how far up the ship is as Butt bridge wasn't opened until 1879.

    What was the occasion - Daniel O'Connell/emancipation or something like that?

    * runs out to get a copy of the Times* :)

    Spot on!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    Great stuff - thanks for that. I couldn't locate a pic although I have one somewhere.

    If you look closely at the parapets on each side you can see the slight curve which made it unsuitable for trams.

    Notice how far up the ship is as Butt bridge wasn't opened until 1879.

    This one okay for now?

    CarlisleBridge1.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    Exit wrote: »
    My great-grandmother, grandparents and my mother and uncles lived in a cottage at Ballymun Cross. I lived there too for the first few months of my life before we moved to Clonshaugh. It was the house directly in front of you as you came up Santry Lane...

    Was that the cottage covered in some plant which flowered in Spring and Summer.... looked lovely? Shame those cottages were pulled down. You must remember the little shop across the road to the left of your house as you came out, and the big water pump out front.

    Oh by the way. That used to be Ballymun Cross, now Santry Cross.... gone all posh doncha know.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,954 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Rashers wrote: »
    This one okay for now?

    CarlisleBridge1.jpg
    Great picture Rashers. I'd say it dates from around 1860 (going by the attire of the gentleman in it).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Insurgents on College Green?...

    brendanrebels1916.jpg

    1916.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭SalthillGuy


    Those are amazing photos.
    Every town should have a set like this.
    People would spend hours going through them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,954 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Mairt wrote: »
    Insurgents on College Green?...

    brendanrebels1916.jpg

    1916.
    (Presumably you meant College Street?)

    It looks like they are observing the the D'olier Street/Hawkins Street area from that odd shaped monument that was outside the RIC Station.


  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    It looks like they are observing the the D'olier Street/Hawkins Street area from that odd shaped monument that was outside the RIC Station.

    There's something not quite right about that photo and I can't put my finger on it.

    1. Would they have turned their backs to a police station where we could presume there were armed police?

    2. The college was well defended by the OTC, even inviting passing civilians to join in and be given a rifle.

    Could it be a Civil War photo?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,118 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    It looks set up, which I presume would not have been uncommon afterwards.
    The people in the background seem to be going about their normal business, rather than legging it from an area of flying bullets.
    Their barricade is a bit crap too, especially if they are being fired on from a height as the aiming of the lads in the back would imply.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,954 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    spurious wrote: »
    It looks set up.... .......especially if they are being fired on from a height as the aiming of the lads in the back would imply.
    That's exactly what I thought but didn't want to say. If they were under sniper fire from above, why on earth would they be gathered in the centre of a street?

    Rashers wrote:
    Could it be a Civil War photo?
    I'm always confused by pics from 1916 or 1922. I'm embarassed to say it but usually I can't tell the difference! :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Without a doubt its set up, very few war photographers in back then!.

    And even getting away from our war's at the time, the photos of men in the trenches were mostly faked also.


  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    This one is supposed to be the Countess Markievicz after her trial being escorted to a British Army ambulance to be taken back to prison.

    Countessarrested1916.jpg

    A young man who drove one of those ambulances during the Rising, and who later said at the commission of enquiry into the rebellion that the insurgents had behaved in an honourable way was a man named Nevil Norway.

    Nevil Norway was decorated for his bravery in taking injured civilians, British servicemen as well as Rebels to hospital while under fire. He changed his name later and would be better known to most of us as Nevil Shute.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,408 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Mairt wrote: »
    Without a doubt its set up, very few war photographers in back then!.

    And even getting away from our war's at the time, the photos of men in the trenches were mostly faked also.

    I think 'faked' is too strong a word. 'Staged' would be more suitable. Cameras weren't as we know them now and the film not as reactive. So lumbering a big wooden tripod and having the subject matter hold still for anything up to 8secondswouldn't be very bright. But fortunately photographers would round up willing troops to go back and enact shortly after an area was secured.
    Saying that it is remarkable how close one can get near the action without endangering one's self. For a recent -Bombay news reports. The bullets travel further and a lot more accurrately too these days.


    As for Exit's enquiry to Bartley's...nearly exactly as trickyd says except for the acid heads. Fierce gay following when Dublin was a little less enlightened as it is now. Few scoops in the Viking (Dame St.) and off for a spot of Bennying in Barts. Best club in Dub at the time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,954 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    I might have a couple of pictures of the old bridge. I'll have a look
    I couldn't locate a pic although I have one somewhere
    Found it!

    It was taken in 1872 but heavily re-touched later by the looks of it.

    CarlisleBridge1872.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    ^Excellent pic, thanks.

    Amazing the amount of traffic for even back then, and just look at the crowds walking all along the left hand side.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,954 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Rashers wrote: »
    We used to use it to visit my sis who had Primary TB and was a patient in Fairy Hill sanatoreum (sp?). Have been looking for Fairy Hill since but it seems to have disappeared.

    Unless someone here know where it is? I'd love a photo of it. :o
    Rashers wrote: »
    My memory is pretty vague on where exactly Fairy Hill was, but I remember we seemed to be a long time on the tram from Sutton. I think it was at or near the summit.
    This is a bit of a long shot Rashers but is there a possibility that you may have confused Howth with Bray?

    The reason I ask is that there was a large house in Bray called Fairy Hill. It was the boyhood home of Dr Garret Fitzgerald for a few years. I wonder if it was later turned into a Sanitorium?

    Fairy Hill

    FairyHillBray.jpg


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,118 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    There definitely was a Fairy Hill sanatorium in Howth somewhere up near the Baily until at least the early 1950s.
    I'd say the Gilbert Library in Pearse Street would have old OS maps that should show it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    This is a bit of a long shot Rashers but is there a possibility that you may have confused Howth with Bray?

    Thanks for that, Wish. But my father worked in Sutton at the time and we often walked up to the hospital on a fine day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    I believe this was taken at the attack on the Custom House in 1921.

    customhouse.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭Exit


    Rashers wrote: »
    Was that the cottage covered in some plant which flowered in Spring and Summer.... looked lovely? Shame those cottages were pulled down. You must remember the little shop across the road to the left of your house as you came out, and the big water pump out front.

    Oh by the way. That used to be Ballymun Cross, now Santry Cross.... gone all posh doncha know.:rolleyes:

    I was thinking some of this was before my time, so I asked my ma. The cottage with the plant was the one next door, the shop was owned by the Rogers family (which I do actually recall) and the water pump was outside until about 1970.

    She also cleared up the Santry Lane/Avenue thing for me. It was always called Santry Avenue until the people moved out from the city centre to the flats. To them, an Avenue was supposed to be a wide road, whereas this looked more like a country lane, so it ended up being called two different things.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,954 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Exit wrote: »
    I don't remember at all the building having Sony on it
    Here's another (poor) picture at Aston Quay from around 1987 showing that SONY sign.

    AstonQuay.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    spurious wrote: »
    There definitely was a Fairy Hill sanatorium in Howth somewhere up near the Baily until at least the early 1950s.
    I'd say the Gilbert Library in Pearse Street would have old OS maps that should show it.
    Rashers wrote: »
    Thanks for that, Wish. But my father worked in Sutton at the time and we often walked up to the hospital on a fine day.

    After a bit of local inquiry from the family of the current owners, Fairy Hill is around here, a bit above the stella maris (very bottom middle). Not sure exactly which one, but it's down an easily missed lane.

    fairy-hill.jpg

    http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=53.36782,-6.067103&spn=0.003342,0.009656&t=h&z=17

    Also, up until when it was bought (1973) it was known as a hospital for children with polio. It might have been a sanatorium at one stage but that would have quite a long time ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    Exit wrote: »
    I was thinking some of this was before my time, so I asked my ma. The cottage with the plant was the one next door, the shop was owned by the Rogers family (which I do actually recall) and the water pump was outside until about 1970.

    She also cleared up the Santry Lane/Avenue thing for me. It was always called Santry Avenue until the people moved out from the city centre to the flats. To them, an Avenue was supposed to be a wide road, whereas this looked more like a country lane, so it ended up being called two different things.


    I know one of that family well.. Graham. Gone to a new area now after being bought out so that a new motorway could be built.

    To see where the cottage and shop.. and indeed the old back road to the Boot Inn used to be click here.

    It'll be the top two pictures on the right. Depending on how the cams are positioned at the time you look you'll see the new crossroads and the new motorway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    tricky D wrote: »
    After a bit of local inquiry from the family of the current owners, Fairy Hill is around here, a bit above the stella maris (very bottom middle). Not sure exactly which one, but it's down an easily missed lane.

    Thanks a million for that. My sister, who's a grandmother now has been saying for so long that she'd love to see the sanatorium once more.
    Also, up until when it was bought (1973) it was known as a hospital for children with polio. It might have been a sanatorium at one stage but that would have quite a long time ago.

    This would have been around 1950. I'd say we can safely assume it's the same place. Thanks very much.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    An interesting slide show of the Sheriff St area in 1989.

    Click HERE and then click the pic on the extreme left to start the slideshow.


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