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SD&MA board dying??

  • 10-11-2008 05:57PM
    #1
    Judomad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭


    Would anybody else agree that since the MMA board has been created that the both boards have quietened down ALOT, i think the old system was better, now we dont have any TMA vs. MMA discussions and also alot less people use both now imo.. what do the rest of you boardsters think??


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  • #2
    silat liam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭silat liam


    Kinda agree with you. I think the main problem there seems no new people becoming regular posters, and alot of the guys who been around a while have move away or stop posting anymore. I think you can have only have the same conversation so many times, so people stop posting. From my own art and style which is very much a minority, it proving to me almost impossible to get them to post on boards and get threads going.


  • #3
    muckwarrior
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,145 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    I still prefer being able to read about topics separately on the MMA forum rather than having almost everything confined to one thread. I think it's inevitable that after the initial split things will quieten down a little but I reckon both forums will retain a solid user base.


  • #4
    Jason Mc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Jason Mc


    one forum makes more sense to me

    I now have to click the mouse button more which takes up a lot of energy:(


  • #5
    Nothingcompares
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Nothingcompares


    it is hard to say whether people have just lost interest or its due to the spiliting of the forum.

    it's just evolved


  • #6
    Khannie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    I'm actually surprised at how much posting there has been on here. Thought things had worked out quite well tbh. Maybe I'm wrong. Some stats would be interesting.


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  • #7
    Roper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    It's certainly less of a pain in the hole. I think it suits everyone, there's some threads on here that are surviving longer cos they're not buried among the 15 Brock vs. Randy threads.


  • #8
    Baggio...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,085 ✭✭✭Baggio...


    Judomad wrote: »
    Would anybody else agree that since the MMA board has been created that the both boards have quietened down ALOT

    Personally, I wouldn't really agree with you here. I still think the change is for the best, but not everyone will agree. I also think the whole TMA vs MMA thing has been done to death.

    The reason I've stopped posting here, is that I've been just too damn busy with lots of other projects. I'm sure there's a few other guys who are in the same boat.

    Real life, has a habit of getting in the way, but what can you do?:(


  • #9
    TKD SC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭TKD SC


    Yeah, I probably prefer the set-up this way too. Seems to be a fair few posts still popping up, and better to have all the mma fight commentary in a seperate forum. Also nice not having anymore tma v mma etc arguments - think we've had enough of them for at least a year!


  • #10
    Colm_OReilly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,577 ✭✭✭Colm_OReilly


    I have to say I was against a splitting but I'm happy to have been proven wrong. I like how this forum is really for the Irish scene and training, and the MMA is a fan forum (understandably there's some cross over)

    As for being quiet, think of it like this: If you built classes up to 10 people per class, and decided to split it into two smaller classes. Both would seem a lot quieter by comparison for a while.


  • #11
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I have to say I like the change too.

    I like it that almost everyone posting here (SD&MA) are training in their chosen style so we're all getting a good insight into those styles.

    The constant UFC discussion on the forum was a pain in the hole & at one stage seemed like a merge with the pro-wrestling forum (where its almost entirely fan based) would not have been a bad idea.


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  • #12
    zenmonk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 413 ✭✭zenmonk


    I stopped visiting the forum when it was just one forum. This is far better.


  • #13
    cowzerp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Now this forum is mainly

    Where can i find judo?
    swords has a judo club!
    O'K thanks, and do they take old people? im 21!
    Yes! But your not old, Mairt is nearly 60!
    etc
    etc
    etc...

    The debates where actually good for learning and getting a different view on some training techniques etc..although i wanted a seperate forum so i cant complain-:)

    MMA forum just talks about events, mainly ufc. no real training stuff or style stuff..

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • #14
    Niall Keane
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Niall Keane


    "It's certainly less of a pain in the hole. I think it suits everyone, there's some threads on here that are surviving longer cos they're not buried among the 15 Brock vs. Randy threads."

    I agree, have started checking in on the threads again.


  • #15
    cowzerp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Thats never been a problem on this forum, people saying mma is superior can be, but whats wrong with that if its got some sort of debate involved!

    on the mma thread on this site stuff did get lost though in my opinion..

    maybe keep that as the mma fans page and this as a martial arts including mma forum, training and skills talk on this..

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • #16
    TKD SC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭TKD SC


    Yeh, I would see this forum as a forum for people who currently train in / looking to train in / upcoming seminars, comps, training methods, self defence, etc, etc. And that training can be any MA, including MMA training.

    And the MMA forum as non training related, and more fan based, talking about the various fights / fighters etc.


  • #17
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    TKD SC wrote: »
    Yeh, I would see this forum as a forum for people who currently train in / looking to train in / upcoming seminars, comps, training methods, self defence, etc, etc. And that training can be any MA, including MMA training.

    And the MMA forum as non training related, and more fan based, talking about the various fights / fighters etc.

    Thats pretty much how I see it too, and I say this at the risk of sounding like I don't respect the MMA fighters, I do. I hold each and everyone of them in the highest respect, except Paul Cowzer - just because he wants to be just like me when he grows up (or gets older) :P

    The old SD&MA forum was old and stagnant, to put it into training terms - it had reached a plateau and needed a good kick up the arse to get it moving again.

    IMO, its moving again.


  • #18
    David Jones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭David Jones


    Would anybody else agree that since the MMA board has been created that the both boards have quietened down ALOT, i think the old system was better,

    It was foretold................. :D

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055316706


  • #19
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    David Jones wrote: »
    It was foretold................. :D

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055316706


    It twas indeed...
    Mairt wrote: »
    I think its a good idea to give this forum an MMA sub-forum at this stage, whilst keeping BJJ, Judo, Muay Thai etc here.

    I think it would clean up the clutter.


  • #20
    David Jones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭David Jones


    I was thinking more along the lines of
    Originally Posted by Judomad
    NO, its not, its working fine how it is now, and i think if you take MMA out of SD&MA the SD&MA forum will suffer and eventually become how it used to be-boring!!

    Originally Posted by Dragan
    If you removed MMA discussion at the moment it would pretty much become a dead entity.
    Originally posted by Neil1984 I think its fine, its the "self defence and MARTIAL ARTS" forum and MMA is "Mixed MARTIAL ARTS" so tbh I think its fine here. The "market" so to speak is there for an MMA Forum but i think its good here as it is.


  • #21
    yomchi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭yomchi


    Maybe it's because all the MAists of this world are busy training, and living. And the fans are busy watching telly and posting on Boards :D


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  • #22
    Judomad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Judomad


    David Jones wrote: »
    It was foretold................. :D

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055316706

    Dave maybe its quiet due to the amount of people doing there white eye monkey fish kung fu, its a possibility ya know..

    no but honestly i do think it worked better the other way, butneven at that, i had a 2nd motive for this thread, its causing a little more activity isn't it.....

    :D


  • #23
    David Jones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭David Jones


    i had a 2nd motive for this thread, its causing a little more activity isn't it.....

    I kind of had a feeling thats what you were up to. :D


  • #24
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Jon wrote: »
    Maybe it's because all the MAists of this world are busy training, and living. And the fans are busy watching telly and posting on Boards :D

    When it comes to the UFC I couldn't agree more.

    I mean, I couldn't give a rats arse who Brock Lesner wants to fight next, or any of the other soap opera drama surrounding fighters in the upper echelons of the UFC. So for me at least it suits me that the fans post that stuff in another forum.

    MMA practitioner's can still post about training etc in this forum, wasn't that was DRAGAN said when the forum split originally?.

    I'd love to read more from our own national fighters, they're the guys I follow - not the UFC soap opera.

    Gary if your aim in posting this here was to generate activity, you've too much bloody time on your hands ;)


  • #25
    Furious-Dave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭Furious-Dave


    I think the split is a good thing and now that it has happened a lot of TMA and not combat martial artists will start to come back to this forum. Ok it might mean that there will be discussions that some of the existing users find boring, but so what, they don't have to read them.
    The old way may have worked for some but what about those who were put off by all the MMA talk and felt that if they started a thread about their style it would be trampled down very quickly by the MMA people? The old combined forum was pretty much an MMA forum as it was, with some threads on other topics. The new MMA forum isn't going to be much different, but this forum will give others a chance to have proper discussions about their individual styles.


  • #26
    David Jones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭David Jones


    Ok it might mean that there will be discussions that some of the existing users find boring, but so what, they don't have to read them.

    Could someone not interested in MMA not have followed this rule under the old forum?

    Arent we running the risk that MMA practitioners will be "put off" by TMA posts and fear their opinions may be trampled on? But thats ok?


  • #27
    Furious-Dave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭Furious-Dave


    David Jones wrote: »
    Could someone not interested in MMA not have followed this rule under the old forum?

    Arent we running the risk that MMA practitioners will be "put off" by TMA posts and fear their opinions may be trampled on? But thats ok?

    Of course TMA could have done the same, but there was so many MMA threads before and the a lot of the regular posters are MMA practioners. Now with the two forums both groups have their own space.


  • #28
    Roper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    Yes, now nobody challenges anyone and we can all live blissfully in our own little world and never have to look at those wifebeater wearing, chest waxing, shaven headed, tatooed neanderthals again!

    Ninjas, you know I'm talking about you!

    It is a bit dull and if it this was 4 years ago I would be pissed and saying what Dave is saying about nobody being challenged and there being no discussion and no debate. These days though, everyone that matters has seen the light ;) and I'm no longer interested in trying to drag people kicking and screaming into the 21st century. When the kids I'm training are 25 they'll all be retired and the world will be mine at last.


  • #29
    Furious-Dave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭Furious-Dave


    All I'm saying is that now that MMA has it's own forum TMA people will probably start posting more in SD&MA. I really don't care if their training methods are out-dated or whatever. Of course there should be criticism, it's healthy for those who are willing to accept it. It's just that very often the criticism coming from MMA people, especially on a forum dominated by MMA people, can be like a stampede and will drive people away.


  • #30
    yomchi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭yomchi


    I think the split is a good thing and now that it has happened a lot of TMA and not combat martial artists will start to come back to this forum.

    FD - What is a non combat martial artists??

    a paradox maybe?


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  • #31
    j walsh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭j walsh


    its going to be quieter for a little while but it should devolop
    i think its far easier and better.


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