Left 4 Dead

Cunny-Funt · 11-11-2008 11:19pm

And my mates :S who are all on different ISP's.

Oh and to answer my own question. NO, port forwarding doesnt help

Can't get any higher then 90kb/s and its constant;y going up and down.

WTF?

I've tried re-connecting to steam a number of times. Nothing helps :S

Stephen · 11-11-2008 11:34pm

I reckon its just everyone trying to get it from steam at the same time.

Cunny-Funt · 11-11-2008 11:37pm

Yeah but why do some people suffer with **** speeds and others don't

Retr0gamer · 11-11-2008 11:48pm

Had a go at this on xbox live since it's unbelieveably slow to download on steam. Had some really good games, best to play it on the highest difficulty level I think. Think somebody sat on my microphone and broke it. the idiots I was playing it with decided to go look for some health insteadof going straight for the exit when it was around the corner. Cue me screaming down the mic to no avail and us getting raped by the next wave of zombies that finished us off.

bizmark · 11-11-2008 11:54pm

Epic good fun with a few irish lad's just now if anyone wishs to add me on steam for a few game's my id is Darkireland

OctavarIan · 12-11-2008 12:28am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Had a go at this on xbox live since it's unbelieveably slow to download on steam. Had some really good games, best to play it on the highest difficulty level I think. Think somebody sat on my microphone and broke it. the idiots I was playing it with decided to go look for some health insteadof going straight for the exit when it was around the corner. Cue me screaming down the mic to no avail and us getting raped by the next wave of zombies that finished us off.

I did the same, will download off Steam tomorrow when the queue has lessened somewhat.

Only had a few games so far on xbox version, finished a game on advanced fairly easily, then been playing on expert since and getting my ass handed to me. People don't stick together so we spend most of the time on the ground. Dreading running into a tank -_-

And yeah, people running around the level exploring is really annoying. It's like some of them think it's a deathmatch game and don't know about the safe house.

Polar Ice · 12-11-2008 1:20am

I'm assuming that people want to see Irish based public servers for this...?

On the assumption that the answer to that question is yes I can announce that Irish E-Sports will be hosting at least one, if not more l4d servers launch of the game (we won't be hosting any demo servers)

Kernel · 12-11-2008 3:21am

Those zombies are damn fast!

Fnz · 12-11-2008 9:49am

Just had my first taste.

On a scale of 1 to 10 ... the game is very good.

[Edit] How are there no reviews of L4D yet? It's out in less than a week!

Ciaran500 · 12-11-2008 10:02am

Fnz wrote: »

[Edit] How are there no reviews of L4D yet? It's out in less than a week!

Thats completely standard, you won't see reviews till much closer to release.

L31mr0d · 12-11-2008 11:15am

the demo is wearing thin at this stage... It's still good but there is only so many times you can play the same 2 levels over and over again. :rolleyes:

Plus they messed something up in the patch that was released yesterday. A lot of people online are complaining about timeouts, getting kicked from servers, the game crashing and the audio going into a loop... etc

Hopefully they'll have patched these issues by the time I get home this evening.

One thing I've noticed is that if you find a weapon stockpile in expert mode, it pretty much means that the next area is going to have a tank in it. Like in all games, weapon stockpiles are never a good thing

Also, constantly moving forward is key. This can be achieved fairly easily in the subway if you have at least 1 pipe bomb. You throw it at the ammo pile mid way through which will kill most of the zombies and then if you run to the train at the far end you can bottleneck any attacking zombies that are following you. Staying in the same place for more than a few seconds is suicide. You will either be pounced on by a hunter, attacked by a horde and a boomer or get tied up by a smoker (god I hate those smokers :mad:)

Jimi-Spandex · 12-11-2008 11:29am

Yeah, I've had terrible trouble connecting to games since that patch. I must have tried to connect to that game with leimrod, max and darkireland about 20 times.

Expert seems to be a bit harder since it as well.

uglyjohn · 12-11-2008 11:30am

i agree about the demo wearing thin. to be honest i think the demo was done badly, it feels more like a beta. its way to short to get a good taste of what a full campaign would be like. as it is you have 2 weeks of people playing to death a small section of the game. those maps will become as familure to people as cs_dust, cs_dust2 2fort etc.

just a thought but maybe it would have been better to give people a full campaign for a limited ammount of time. eg the demo expires after a week (with an extension if you pre order)

i will come back here and have a proper rant about this but for now there is just one thing i want to mention.

i understood from the description that there would be alternate routes through the maps. i dont like how linear they are, whats that map in tf2 wher the different area open up depending on how who takes which objective?
there should be something like that where he survivors can go down diferent streets or along rooftops instead of always going the same way.

@leimrod, i must try that with the flashlight....not that it makes much difference since a boomer always voms on me anyway.

KilOit · 12-11-2008 11:38am

Didn't really notice anything if the flash light was off,

anyway if people wanna add me for afew games i go by Kitaz on Steam

Jimi-Spandex · 12-11-2008 11:45am

uglyjohn wrote: »

i agree about the demo wearing thin. to be honest i think the demo was done badly, it feels more like a beta. its way to short to get a good taste of what a full campaign would be like. as it is you have 2 weeks of people playing to death a small section of the game. those maps will become as familure to people as cs_dust, cs_dust2 2fort etc.

just a thought but maybe it would have been better to give people a full campaign for a limited ammount of time. eg the demo expires after a week (with an extension if you pre order)

i will come back here and have a proper rant about this but for now there is just one thing i want to mention.

i understood from the description that there would be alternate routes through the maps. i dont like how linear they are, whats that map in tf2 wher the different area open up depending on how who takes which objective?
there should be something like that where he survivors can go down diferent streets or along rooftops instead of always going the same way.

@leimrod, i must try that with the flashlight....not that it makes much difference since a boomer always voms on me anyway.

There is an alternate route in the apartment level if you go around by the truck at the corner of the main street, you go through some warehouse and end up facing the alarm car from the other side. It's alot longer and more claustrophobic, so pointless then.

uglyjohn · 12-11-2008 11:50am

you're rignt, my bad. i think 99% of the time i've gone the other way and thats why i forgot.

thelordofcheese · 12-11-2008 11:57am

my left for dead experience can be summed up thusly.

THEY'RE COMING OUTTA THE WALLS! THEY'RE COMING OUTTA THE GODDAMN WALLS!

KilOit · 12-11-2008 12:12pm

thelordofcheese wrote: »

my left for dead experience can be summed up thusly.

THEY'RE COMING OUTTA THE WALLS! THEY'RE COMING OUTTA THE GODDAMN WALLS!

it's pretty cool alright the zombies can jump out of anywhere pretty funny looking at a horde smash through the 2 story window and jump down on the first level and the smokers and hunters on the roofs,

it's the damn boomers that annoy me the most no matter how fat and noisy they are they always get a jump on you unless there in a tunnel with no where else to go,

But what really made me go WOW was when i spotted a boomer on a stairway after he knew i spotted him he then took an alternate routh and came up behind us, pretty smart coding in this game

L31mr0d · 12-11-2008 12:51pm

KilOit wrote: »

Didn't really notice anything if the flash light was off,

anyway if people wanna add me for afew games i go by Kitaz on Steam

Yeah we where playing with you last night (why don't people keep the same usernames :rolleyes:)

To test the flashlight, while in darkness with it off shoot at a Zombie once to get it to run at you, then side step, you'll notice it runs at where you where and not where you've moved to. Do this again but leave your flashlight on. You'll notice the Zombie will track to your new location

thelordofcheese wrote: »

my left for dead experience can be summed up thusly.

THEY'RE COMING OUTTA THE WALLS! THEY'RE COMING OUTTA THE GODDAMN WALLS!

Yeah last night I had one of those experiences, in the last subway room where you have to flick a switch we where lucky enough to encounter a Tank

So I high tailed it to the underground area, thinking I was safe. Only for the tank to DROP DOWN THROUGH THE CEILING and land on me, and IT WAS ON FIRE... I was just on the ground being stomped on. I was so shocked that I didn't even let off a shot at it, I was still trying to figure out how it had morphed through the ceiling, landed on me and caught fire.

Maximilian · 12-11-2008 12:58pm

L31mr0d wrote: »

Yeah last night I had one of those experiences, in the last subway room where you have to flick a switch we where lucky enough to encounter a Tank So I high tailed it to the underground area, thinking I was safe. Only for the tank to DROP DOWN THROUGH THE CEILING and land on me, and IT WAS ON FIRE... I was just on the ground being stomped on. I was so shocked that I didn't even let off a shot at it, I was still trying to figure out how it had morphed through the ceiling, landed on me and caught fire.

I told him you guys were there.

Pro-tip: negotiation with tanks is unprofitable.

L31mr0d · 12-11-2008 1:17pm

Maximilian wrote: »

I told him you guys were there.

Pro-tip: negotiation with tanks is unprofitable.

haha, I think afterwards I figured out that he was on fire because you had smashed a molotov over its head

pixelburp · 12-11-2008 1:30pm

How big is this demo btw?

uglyjohn · 12-11-2008 1:45pm

L31mr0d wrote: »

Only for the tank to DROP DOWN THROUGH THE CEILING and land on me, and IT WAS ON FIRE... I was just on the ground being stomped on. I was so shocked that I didn't even let off a shot at it, I was still trying to figure out how it had morphed through the ceiling, landed on me and caught fire.

there is a hole in the ground behind the minigun, maybe that comes out in the underground?

Creature · 12-11-2008 2:03pm

Awesome, awesome game. the main infected hordes go down a bit too easily but the boss monsters, especailly that damn Tank, can be tough.

I added a few of you as friends on Steam btw, I'm Neptunious.

Retr0gamer · 12-11-2008 2:09pm

I'm going to try and get this up and running on steam tonight, my username is retr0gamer. Xboxlive was really laggy and I had a few disconnects so want the full keyboard and mouse experience

One thing I noticed that annoyed me in the xbox version was that there was no light source from other peoples flashlights only your own. Is this in the PC version?

Azza · 12-11-2008 2:25pm

You can see everyones flashlight in the PC version.

I have sent a friends invite to you on steam retro.

KilOit · 12-11-2008 2:40pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I'm going to try and get this up and running on steam tonight, my username is retr0gamer. Xboxlive was really laggy and I had a few disconnects so want the full keyboard and mouse experience

One thing I noticed that annoyed me in the xbox version was that there was no light source from other peoples flashlights only your own. Is this in the PC version?

No, not on the demo but i have seen vids of the full version where flashlights can be seen by party members, you can see that the light is on ofc but it's just an indicator it doesn't throw any light out,

There was a big disscussion on one of the left4dead forums about this that it causes alot of system load because servers have to calculate other players light on your screen,

Id say it will be shipped with an option to turn it on or off

Smellyirishman · 12-11-2008 2:44pm

Everyone knows there is a Boards steam group and you can see what people in the group are playing, right? If you want friends for the popup or whatever then my name is SmellyIrishMan (I conform to standards L31mr0d).

Retr0gamer · 12-11-2008 2:51pm

Smellyirishman wrote: »

Everyone knows there is a Boards steam group and you can see what people in the group are playing, right? If you want friends for the popup or whatever then my name is SmellyIrishMan (I conform to standards L31mr0d).

Forgot about that, will have to join it tonight, haven't been on steam in ages.

Mantel · 12-11-2008 3:20pm

pixelburp wrote: »

How big is this demo btw?

Pretty damn big for a demo. It was about 3gb, the full game looks to be over 10gb.

pixelburp · 12-11-2008 3:23pm

Mantel wrote: »

Pretty damn big for a demo. It was about 3gb, the full game looks to be over 10gb.

Hmmm right then, guess I won't be playing that anytime soon, not with my 2Mb connection :rolleyes:

IgsTer · 12-11-2008 3:45pm

probably already mentioned further back in this thread..but the demo is now availible on steam to people who have not pre-ordered the game..hopefully should get a game in later

L31mr0d · 12-11-2008 3:47pm

KilOit wrote: »

There was a big disscussion on one of the left4dead forums about this that it causes alot of system load because servers have to calculate other players light on your screen,

Id say it will be shipped with an option to turn it on or off

Yeah I noticed that myself. I wanted to be able to turn my flashlight off as there would be no point in 4 of us pointing our flashlights in front, but when I did I could see the light coming out of the others flashlights but no light on the walls. I just assumed it was a glitch or something

Retr0gamer · 12-11-2008 3:53pm

Wouldn't there be a better way of doing this though? They could just send the vector of where the light is pointed and let your computer work out the light sourcing. It might be a bit choppy, I wouldn't know, not too clued in on these things, just think with a tiny bit of optimisation it would be easy to implement.

Cunny-Funt · 12-11-2008 4:32pm

I just wanna say that when I play the game, I do see my teammates lights, shining on the walls etc.

The just don't illuminate things for youron your screen the way it would with your one on.

Also I wish the lights were OFF by default. Sick of telling people to turn them off.

I really hope in the full version of the game, settings are highly tweakable. I'd love to play the game where guns are very rare and all you mainly have is pistols (not duel pistols though) with slightly reduced zombie hordes...kinda thing. More of a slower paced horror style then the "mow down millions of zombies " style atm.

L31mr0d · 12-11-2008 4:40pm

Cunny-Funt wrote: »

Sick of telling people to turn them off.

The more people play it the less it will need to be said. I'm sick of people running through my line of fire or not crouching when in front. That said I'm guilty of it sometimes when I see a pipe bomb and just have to get it

The amount of times also I've ran off to clear an area just to be shot in the head on the way back because somebody thought I was a zombie :rolleyes: this game really gives you an itchy trigger finger.

KilOit · 12-11-2008 4:43pm

Cunny-Funt wrote: »

I just wanna say that when I play the game, I do see my teammates lights, shining on the walls etc.

The just don't illuminate things for youron your screen the way it would with your one on.

Also I wish the lights were OFF by default. Sick of telling people to turn them off.

I really hope in the full version of the game, settings are highly tweakable. I'd love to play the game where guns are very rare and all you mainly have is pistols (not duel pistols though) with slightly reduced zombie hordes...kinda thing. More of a slower paced horror style then the "mow down millions of zombies " style atm.

No way man the more zombies the better, i hope theres some level where theres like 4 mini guns and you have to mow down 100 zombies before they can get you, now that would be epic

PogMoThoin · 12-11-2008 6:06pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Hmmm right then, guess I won't be playing that anytime soon, not with my 2Mb connection :rolleyes:

Get a friend who has already downloaded it to backup the game to usb key using the steam backup utility, buy the game (as in just pay or it) but don't start the download, then install from your friends backup. Steam backups even create their own .exe installer for you to install with, double click it and it installs itself from the usb key, no copying & pasting it from usb key in2 a Steam sub directory

I backed up my demo for a friend for yesterday cos I knew the servers would be slow, he installed in 2 mins and it updated in less than 10mins while others were waiting hours for it to download

L31mr0d · 12-11-2008 6:24pm

KilOit wrote: »

No way man the more zombies the better, i hope theres some level where theres like 4 mini guns and you have to mow down 100 zombies before they can get you, now that would be epic

100? I want 10,000... I want to be able to build a wall of zombies like in 300

Kiith · 12-11-2008 7:00pm

Anyone up for a game now on the pc? Been playing the single player, but havent gotten to play online yet.

L31mr0d · 12-11-2008 7:14pm

Kiith wrote: »

Anyone up for a game now on the pc? Been playing the single player, but havent gotten to play online yet.

Your Steam ID?

I'll be up for a game later. Might be on around 9 tonight.

Kiith · 12-11-2008 7:24pm

My steam id is RhynoAlbino (dont ask

). I'm actually gonna be off for a while, but i will be back later.

Kinetic^ · 12-11-2008 7:29pm

I played this demo 12 months ago. Exact same levels. They've tidied it up a bit but I expected some different stuff in the demo. Just have to wait for the full game next week.

Devious · 12-11-2008 7:37pm

Kinetic^ wrote: »

I played this demo 12 months ago.

WAAAH???! How is that possible?!

PogMoThoin · 12-11-2008 7:37pm

I'm up for a game also, add my steam: PogMoTho1n

Kinetic^ · 12-11-2008 7:50pm

Devious wrote: »

WAAAH???! How is that possible?!

Valve had a booth at the World Cyber Games in Seattle in 2007, they had this game there. I played it........several times.

Retr0gamer · 12-11-2008 11:16pm

This is so much better on the PC

Doubting whether to buy both copies of the game now.

The Gnome · 12-11-2008 11:30pm

Finally an online zombie fest I can enjoy. Just joined the Board group. Steam ID: Hrafyn

Bubs101 · 13-11-2008 2:09am

God damn this game is awesome. Nothing better than hanging back, waiting for the other guys to go ahead and then shooting the alarmed car. Super Fun

Jumpy · 13-11-2008 10:06am

Bubs101 wrote: »

God damn this game is awesome. Nothing better than hanging back, waiting for the other guys to go ahead and then shooting the alarmed car. Super Fun

You evil, evil bastard.

I bet you shoot the petrol can when you delicately place it behind the person on the minigun too

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