DEAP/BER Issues (Merged)

No6 · 04-11-2008 11:54PM

Maybe a refund of the 1000 euro registration fee or a collective training providers execution, a stoning perhaps!!! where's the fake beards!!:D Seriously News on the SEI exam perhaps, I am looking forward to it!!

Chimpster · 05-11-2008 09:51AM

No6 wrote: »

Maybe a refund of the 1000 euro registration fee or a collective training providers execution, a stoning perhaps!!! where's the fake beards!!:D Seriously News on the SEI exam perhaps, I am looking forward to it!!

Folks,

I look forward to the news, what ever it may be.

On an aside, can anyone tell me why SEI feel they have to outsource alot of their admin work to companies outside the country? I rang enquiring about the cluster scheme yesterday and I was put through to english company who are 'handling all the admin'....

This is not the only work they have farmed out to companies outside of Ireland. Ok expertise may be thin on the ground as yet but this work should be held within the country.

Rant over....

Who is the new CEO of SEI by the way?

berass · 06-11-2008 03:43PM

SEI project manager Paula Rice announced changes this morning at the Ber association general meeting in Athlone. These changes got a mixed reaction from the assessors present. Paula had to field some difficult feedback and questions, but handled the situation quiet well. Dr. Peter Rickaby's presentation and analysis was excellent. The Ber assessors association was surprised and delighted by the bigger than expexted turnout.
( It will be interesting to see if the meeting in Cork tomorrow will be as good as todays event)

Mossyfields · 06-11-2008 04:41PM

I agree, but I think the training bodies are really upset..

topcatcbr · 06-11-2008 05:38PM

Mossyfields wrote: »

I agree, but I think the training bodies are really upset..

I dont feel too bad for them to be honest

Mossyfields · 06-11-2008 09:07PM

extraction from an email I received this evening. this must be the 10th reminder.

"The meeting in Athlone today was very productive.

Peter Rickaby's presentation was excellent , his insight and clear answers were both educational and a breath of fresh air.[/FONT]
Paula Rice of SEI outlined several changes to what was previously understood to be the way forward, as usual her presentation was professional and slick, however she had to field some difficult questions, comments and feedback. She seems to be well aware of the difficulties assessors are facing. We very much appreciate her attendance at the meeting.[/FONT]
The general meeting , almost double the pre-booked numbers turned up, a strong endorsement for the Ber assessor association.

sinnerboy · 07-11-2008 12:34PM

It was a good meeting

fin999 · 07-11-2008 01:55PM

Couldn't make it to Athlone. What were the changes announced by Paula Rice?

Is there any sign of exam dates etc?

Thanks
fin999

sinnerboy · 07-11-2008 02:46PM

National exams are put back untill Mar / April

Within 1-2 weeks registered assessors will be invited to extend their registration to include existing houses , giving an undertaking to abide by the code of practice , including health and safety provisions , implement the survey guidelines , get familiar with DEAP 3 ( crossover form DEAP 2 is Nov 17 ) and sit and pass the national exam ( in due course )

fin999 · 07-11-2008 02:55PM

Thanks for that Sinnerboy. That sounds reasonable.

I have passed exam for New Builds, but have yet to register with the SEI as I didn't want to part with my 1k Euros until I had done existing builds exam. It sounds like I should look at registering pretty soon so that I get that invite. Did she make any comment about people qualified but not yet registered with them?

Thanks
fin999

sinnerboy · 07-11-2008 03:16PM

Comment ? - not really . She gave stats
3730 certified
859 registered
200 active
2500 approx certs - mostly B's

Exam will be pc based multiple choice

sydthebeat · 07-11-2008 03:24PM

fin999 wrote: »

Thanks for that Sinnerboy. That sounds reasonable.

I have passed exam for New Builds, but have yet to register with the SEI as I didn't want to part with my 1k Euros until I had done existing builds exam. It sounds like I should look at registering pretty soon so that I get that invite. Did she make any comment about people qualified but not yet registered with them?

Thanks
fin999

the path for current registered assessors is:
registration

re-registerig for existing --- passing national exam --- accrediated as an 'all dwellings' assessor

the path for new assessors from possible next may will be:
new dwelling module -- existing dwelling module (possible all in one)-- trainers exam----national exam-- registration ---accrediated as an 'all dwellings' assessor

im not sure but i would think the fact youve passed the trainers exam, it would simply be a case of sitting the national exam and then registering as an 'all dwellings' assessor.

there was some stark figures give at the meeting

:eek::eek::eek:

edit: see SBs post above for correct figures!!!

MicktheMan · 07-11-2008 03:53PM

Hi all, as I was unable to attend the meeting this week, I was wondering if anybody who attended could give a summation of all the talks/presentations, the Q & A and any other interesting information. Tia

sinnerboy · 07-11-2008 03:57PM

Or maybe you just show up at the next meeting ?

fin999 · 07-11-2008 03:59PM

Apologies if this has been answered already but is version 3 software currently available?

Thanks
fin999

MicktheMan · 07-11-2008 04:01PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

the path for current registered assessors is:
registration
re-registerig for existing --- passing national exam --- accrediated as an 'all dwellings' assessor

the path for new assessors from possible next may will be:
new dwelling module -- existing dwelling module (possible all in one)-- trainers exam----national exam-- registration ---accrediated as an 'all dwellings' assessor

im not sure but i would think the fact youve passed the trainers exam, it would simply be a case of sitting the national exam and then registering as an 'all dwellings' assessor.

there was some stark figures give at the meeting

:eek::eek::eek:

edit: see SBs post above for correct figures!!!

For a currently registered assessor for new builds, what is the cost to register for existing?
Also, how long does a new build/existing registered assessor have to pass the national exam (after it becomes available) to become an accreditated assessor for "all dwellings". For example, say the national exam is available on Mar 1st, can I carry out a ber on an existing house in May without having passed the national exam?

sinnerboy · 07-11-2008 04:07PM

fin - mick - contact SEI

mrgaa1 · 07-11-2008 04:08PM

As a newly qualified assessor - once I receive the necessary documentation i'd just seen reference to The Ber assessors association - is there a website for this and how do you join? What benefits are there?

Thanks

sydthebeat · 07-11-2008 04:14PM

mrgaa1 wrote: »

As a newly qualified assessor - once I receive the necessary documentation i'd just seen reference to The Ber assessors association - is there a website for this and how do you join? What benefits are there?

Thanks

are you saying you revieved a flyer from the BER association along with your documentation for registering?? :eek:

MicktheMan · 07-11-2008 04:15PM

sinnerboy wrote: »

Or maybe you just show up at the next meeting ?

SB I would have attended the meeting but am out of the country this week.

sydthebeat · 07-11-2008 04:28PM

MicktheMan wrote: »

1. For a currently registered assessor for new builds, what is the cost to register for existing?

AFAIK nothing

MicktheMan wrote: »

2. For example, say the national exam is available on Mar 1st, can I carry out a ber on an existing house in May without having passed the national exam?

this is a question for SEI

mrgaa1 · 07-11-2008 04:51PM

i missed typed my information - I've just been reading this website and I noticed the BER assessors association being referred to - I was wondering how do you join, website etc...... Sounds like a great idea

topcatcbr · 07-11-2008 05:23PM

mrgaa1 wrote: »

i missed typed my information - I've just been reading this website and I noticed the BER assessors association being referred to - I was wondering how do you join, website etc...... Sounds like a great idea

This Is their Email send them a note

info@berassoc.ie

sinnerboy · 07-11-2008 05:25PM

MicktheMan wrote: »

SB I would have attended the meeting but am out of the country this week.

See you at the next one so

Villain · 07-11-2008 07:11PM

Lads I got a letter from the local Fire officer looking for me to produce a BER cert, I got planning after 1/1/2007 but I have stopped building due at the moment due to weather and finances so I only have the shell completed.

Is the BER cert required during construction or after completion?

Thanks

MicktheMan · 07-11-2008 07:46PM

Villain wrote: »

Lads I got a letter from the local Fire officer looking for me to produce a BER cert, I got planning after 1/1/2007 but I have stopped building due at the moment due to weather and finances so I only have the shell completed.

Is the BER cert required during construction or after completion?

Thanks

From the SEI website:
As part of the Directive, a Building Energy Rating (BER) certificate, which is effectively an energy label, will be required at the point of sale or rental of a building, or on completion of a new building.

topcatcbr · 07-11-2008 08:01PM

It would do no harm to have it done as early as possible and this would allow you to make any improvements as you are building.

MicktheMan · 07-11-2008 08:59PM

topcatcbr wrote: »

It would do no harm to have it done as early as possible and this would allow you to make any improvements as you are building.

TC, you're right in what you say, but I was refering only to the cert itself and what is required in officialdom.

topcatcbr · 07-11-2008 09:08PM

MicktheMan wrote: »

TC, you're right in what you say, but I was refering only to the cert itself and what is required in officialdom.

I argee with what you have said i just offered some advise to go along with it.

fishfoodie · 08-11-2008 04:04PM

Villain wrote: »

Lads I got a letter from the local Fire officer looking for me to produce a BER cert, I got planning after 1/1/2007 but I have stopped building due at the moment due to weather and finances so I only have the shell completed.

Is the BER cert required during construction or after completion?

Thanks

Why in the name of thats good & holy would the 'Local Fire Officer' be looking for your BER cert :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Is he afraid it might burn down in an environmentally unfriendly way

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