3x01;02: The Second Coming; The Butterfly Effect **SPOILERS**

Here's hoping for a decent season.

Bloody hell, it's turning in to Lost, so many different plot elements and characters that it's becoming very confusing, especially having not seen the previous series since it first aired.

Thought it was very good on the whole, bar a few small things

As was said, the Claire/Sylar scene was a bit dumb, but ended well. It was small things that annoyed me about it - eg why Claire could't grow her skull back, why Sylar didn't hear her coming before she stabbed him, why he didn't just pull open the door with his powers etc etc. Just nitpicking I know, but how and ever. Also big plus point of the Claire story - no West!

Mohinder has been changed into a more interesting character. I was a bit unconvinced at him becoming suddenly hungry for powers when before it was always about finding a cure. It will be interesting to see what he becomes now, though, and if he'll become a villain, or devolve into some sort of beast.

Future Peter thing was a little confusing, but good on the whole. I guess one of the main arcs of the season will be him dealing with the consequences of changing the past, while Present Peter struggles with the crazies let loose from the Prison.

I wonder if Tracy is (was?) actually Nikki or not....? If not she must be some form of twin (ridiculous sounding I know). Or else someone else with a power of illusion or transformation. I thought at first it was just Nikki acting. Then Nikki with some sort of memory loss. Then some other split personality of Nikki. But the ice power was a bit of a surprise. It may have been a latent power of Nikki's all along (which would explain where Peter got the ice power at the end of season 1), but you never know.

Hiro and Ando's arc was a bit weak I thought, but hopefully will get better. Dunno if I like speed girl (daphne was it?) but her "boss" sounds more intriguing. The future vision was typically apocalyptic, but it was interesting to see Ando with a power.

Questions - did Linderman actually heal Nathan? It seems to be suggested that Nathan is just imagining him, but if so, who healed him?

And remind me, how did Noah end up in the prison too?

Am I the only one feeling slightly disappointed by the first two episodes ? I was expecting Heroes to come back with a bang. It failed to deliver for me. Now that is my personal opinion.

There was a few positives to take from the first two episodes though. I enjoyed the new bad guys at the end. I think these three/four will be essential to the progression of the show.

Linderman , The question here is : Is he just a figure of Nathans imagination or is he actually there. Should really try to phrase that question better.

Anyway , I shall be reserving judgement until i see the next couple of episodes.

it said "special guest star kristen bell", she not a main character any more?


actually, (from tv.com) next episode:
"Hrg Will Have A New Partner; Hiro & Ando Track Daphne To Germany; Tracy Strauss Searches For Answers About Niki; 4 New Villains Introduced"
Wonder who his new partner will be :rolleyes:

Fell asleep during episode 1, didn't move onto episode 2. Not a good sign!

Will go back and watch them over the weekend but what I saw of episode 1 left me feeling all kinds of underwhelmed.

Ah well!

Good episode(s) although a little convoluted; that said, it was to be expected as it sets up the plot for the season.

I'm hoping this season marks the end of Mohinder and his wh0re, as beautiful as she is.

Just watched the first two episodes. Much better than Season 2, but that was to be expected I think!

The Mohinder story is the one thing I hated about the first 2 episodes. Hopefully it will get better or he will die because he's really starting to annoy me! (I wont hold my breath!)

calex71 wrote: »

can someone recap what happened to clair bennete's dad in season 2 i really cant remember, i just saw him in episode one and was liek awe yeah yer man with the glasses what happened to him at the end.

So far though feel totally meh about it , a lot of stuff that happened i felt like ahhhhhhhh why didnt i pick up on that in season 2 , but i guess its only obvious after it happens

Courtesy of Wikipedia.

In "Truth & Consequenes", second last episode of Season 2, Mohinder tells Noah Bennett that he was revived with Claire's blood and that Claire is at home, thinking he is dead. During the episode, with Noah still in the hands of The Company, Bob visits the Bennet's home with an urn telling them that it contains Noah's ashes.

In "Powerless", the last episode of Season 2, Noah returns to his family, clearly shocking them all as he is allegedly dead. He tells them that he was brought back using Claire's blood, and that he made a deal with The Company which will allow his family to lead a normal life with one condition—he must stay with the company. Noah then leaves his family.

Cue Season 3.

calex71 wrote: »

Ah ok so im not the only one wondering how he got to wher ehe is in s3 :pac:

For me the Niki Sanders line is the most interesting so far as is parkman's maybe as theres more mystery to those

Indeed; regarding Parkman - the age old mystery of who ate all the pies is on the verge of being solved :pac:

Regarding Niki, I'm not sure if this is known or not about Niki and her abilities etc, so if you do not want to know or haven't figured it out/guessed something along these lines, do not read the following.

Two great episodes, they're keeping the plot pumping along nicely this season. Having a gang of villains to fight will give new life to the show, after two seasons of the heroes mostly fighting Sylar.

The new direction for Mohinder is a welcome change - hopefully he'll evolve into a time-travelling, talking turtle and that really was him talking to Parkman. The serum that gave him his powers will presumably give Ando his as well. Wonder what would happen if someone who already had powers took it?

Weird new direction for Nikki though - wonder what happened to Micah and Monica? Were they killed when the building blew up? Fingers crossed.

Best of all, Claire is back in my life! \o/

Agamemnon wrote: »

Two great episodes, they're keeping the plot pumping along nicely this season. Having a gang of villains to fight will give new life to the show, after two seasons of the heroes mostly fighting Sylar.

The new direction for Mohinder is a welcome change - hopefully he'll evolve into a time-travelling, talking turtle and that really was him talking to Parkman. The serum that gave him his powers will presumably give Ando his as well. Wonder what would happen if someone who already had powers took it?

Weird new direction for Nikki though - wonder what happened to Micah and Monica? Were they killed when the building blew up? Fingers crossed.

Best of all, Claire is back in my life! \o/

I think Monica might have gone ka-boom. Micah wasn't in the building though and is credited in the episodes. Sorry, Agamemnon