Rossport Hunger strike: It's day one

thelordofcheese · 11-09-2008 03:36PM

The_Minister wrote: »

That should have read; "prone to dangerously exploding when sabotaged by terrorists" :rolleyes:

This of course implies there are times that a gas line exploding isn't dangerous.

Cookie_Monster · 11-09-2008 03:44PM

I, for one, welcome our new pipe-laying, floating overlord!

jaycen · 11-09-2008 03:50PM

She's a boapboxing idiot, this country seems to be producing them at an alarming rate these days.

Although it's a good way to drop a few stone coming up to Christmas :P

Bit of an insult to Bobby and the others though. :mad:

iphone newbie · 11-09-2008 05:57PM

panda100 wrote: »

Not one person can come up with any real reason why they hate the protestors so much

I can, a group of at least 20 stood 6 foot in front of me shouting abuse at me for doing my job.

MooseJam · 11-09-2008 06:10PM

wheres mayo, seriously

Poccington · 11-09-2008 06:17PM

jaycen wrote: »

Bit of an insult to Bobby and the others though. :mad:

Definitely.

Cause when terrorists go on hunger strike it's a much more noble thing to do :rolleyes:

PrivateEye · 11-09-2008 06:20PM

Billions of Euros worth of our gas reserves being handed over to a foreign corporation bugs me, especially when our gas bills seem to be going up constantly.

Fair play to the community in Rossport. Personally, I was surprised at the heavy handed tactics the police used against the protesters (not least seeing as many of them are quite old, and have lived in the area for a long time to say the least) and to stand so firm against the state takes courage.

It's NOT 'our' gas. Corrib Gas belongs to Shell. Shell's shareholders get the benefits. Irish people will pay the same price increase for Corrib as any other gas....(the gas)will not build any new schools or provide any more hospital beds because they were given away by Ray Burke and Bertie Ahern.

-Maura Harrington.

Bit of an insult to Bobby and the others though.

How is it an insult to any Republican hungerstrikers?
Sure Fianna Fail are a 'republican party' I always loved that line in the proclamation about the 'ownership of Ireland belonging to the people of Ireland'. Rossport (a community with many Irish speakers) is taking a stand that I think firmly stands in Michael Davitts, Connollys and Tones tradition.

I'm not a nationalist, but I know the issue of 'national sovreignty' and 'ownership of Ireland' is quite central to some in the campaign.

It's no secret I'm on the left, but the situation in Mayo has irked an awful lot of people I know from across the spectrum. It's a giveaway on a scale never before seen, and truly shows the ugly face of modern Fianna Fail (My grandad would kill me for that- but as a Westerner, he'd probably leave the party in light of it!)

Norway says Cheers, I'm sure SOMEONES healthservice will benefit.

Maith sibh Shell Chun Sáile!

***Edit: for what its worth its not a campaign of 'hippies'. In Rossport, its not unusual for an action to begin with a saying of the rosary. It is an ordinary rural community, that at the height of things was quite frankly under siege. They're not having a walk around about Iraq and eating vegan soup on the roadside if thats what people think....

MooseJam · 11-09-2008 06:23PM

PrivateEye wrote: »

Billions of Euros worth of our gas reserves being handed over to a foreign corporation bugs me

What did we get out of it or is that the full story, why'd they just give it away, brown envelopes job was it

PrivateEye · 11-09-2008 06:29PM

Protesters against the controversial Corrib Gas Field terminal, in particular Shell to Sea have commented that the deal made by Burke which exempted the oil company Royal Dutch Shell from paying any royalties for the gas extracted had the hallmarks of a corrupt decision

Anything Ray Burke was involved in is worth having a good look at.

Overheal · 11-09-2008 06:39PM

kevmy wrote: »

As for the Shell-getting-this-for-nothing brigade. The Government sold exploration rights to Shell (and other companies) for certain areas of the coast. Only Shell found viable gas reserves. Shell have had to pump millions of euro into this to get it to this stage. The government will get a slice (admittedly small and perhaps too small) of the profits.
If the exploration rights weren't sold to these companies the gas would never had been found as the Government don't have the money or expertise to do it.
If the somehow managed to find it, they would have had to spend millions getting it to shore and it would end up being sold to the people at the same price (if not higher) than Shell will. So really whether Shell or the Government own it makes shag all difference to you and me.

It isn't "our" gas but it's not like Shell are going to build a pipeline over to Boston and sell it to the Yanks. It's pretty much going to be just sold to Irish consumers. Overall it's a good thing as it will lessen our dependence on imports from places like Russia (I'd rather deal with Shell than Putin any day of the week)

This is the most sensible post I've read here so far.

Sierra Oscar · 11-09-2008 07:36PM

Thank goodness this mad hatter is retiring from her job as teacher next week, I can only imagine what nonsense she is planting in kids minds.

Donald-Duck · 11-09-2008 09:23PM

thelordofcheese wrote: »

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On internet forums you don't need citation. You make up and sensationalise all claims.

galwayrush · 11-09-2008 09:36PM

Someone should start frying rashers in front of her,

phantom_lord · 11-09-2008 09:48PM

panda100 wrote: »

Stop being so blind and open up your eyes. We are giving away billions of Gas for nothing,Gas we will never see,there is no benefit in this project to the Iirsh state or Irish people

hmmm, i was under the impression that shell spent tons of cash exploring and searching for resources, and all the money on building the infrastructure to extract and so on. I don't get why the gov should suddenly claim ownership when gas is found.

isn't this how it works everywhere else is the world? licenses are given out, and the companies are free to extract and sell what they find? and pay tax on their profits?

jaycen · 12-09-2008 10:35AM

Poccington wrote: »

Definitely.

Cause when terrorists go on hunger strike it's a much more noble thing to do :rolleyes:

A matter of human rights wouldn't go astray either but you seem to have convieniently omitted that.

PrivateEye wrote: »

Billions of Euros worth of our gas reserves being handed over to a foreign corporation bugs me, especially when our gas bills seem to be going up constantly.

Fair play to the community in Rossport. Personally, I was surprised at the heavy handed tactics the police used against the protesters (not least seeing as many of them are quite old, and have lived in the area for a long time to say the least) and to stand so firm against the state takes courage.

-Maura Harrington.

How is it an insult to any Republican hungerstrikers?
Sure Fianna Fail are a 'republican party' I always loved that line in the proclamation about the 'ownership of Ireland belonging to the people of Ireland'. Rossport (a community with many Irish speakers) is taking a stand that I think firmly stands in Michael Davitts, Connollys and Tones tradition.

I'm not a nationalist, but I know the issue of 'national sovreignty' and 'ownership of Ireland' is quite central to some in the campaign.

It's no secret I'm on the left, but the situation in Mayo has irked an awful lot of people I know from across the spectrum. It's a giveaway on a scale never before seen, and truly shows the ugly face of modern Fianna Fail (My grandad would kill me for that- but as a Westerner, he'd probably leave the party in light of it!)

Norway says Cheers, I'm sure SOMEONES healthservice will benefit.

Maith sibh Shell Chun Sáile!

***Edit: for what its worth its not a campaign of 'hippies'. In Rossport, its not unusual for an action to begin with a saying of the rosary. It is an ordinary rural community, that at the height of things was quite frankly under siege. They're not having a walk around about Iraq and eating vegan soup on the roadside if thats what people think....

The pipeline is being used to generate billions for our economy, desperately needed at the moment. We do not have the knowledge or money to access this gas ourselves, better to let someone else do it and profit from them, I don't protestes outside Tara mines because a foreign company mines Zinc there.

Rosport is a disgrace, not so the genuinely put out locals (there are only a few, who were offered significant compensation), but the soapboxers who flock to any protest they can get involved in.

Eric Cartman · 12-09-2008 12:18PM

hope she dies... sick of those ignorant farmers and their stupidity

humanji · 12-09-2008 12:45PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

hope she dies... sick of those ignorant farmers and their stupidity

That's a bit strong, and she isn't a farmer (although I'm pretty sure she is stupid).

irish_bob · 12-09-2008 12:49PM

dublinmadyoke wrote: »

I say fair play to her and all the rest of them down there. The Irish goverment sold this country out. If this happened in your part of the country you would do the same thing!!!

Up the Rossport people & fair play

i know for a fact that the rossport cranks have little support even in there own home town

you cant do anything in this country without locals organising a protest and claiming that whatever project will bring about the end
i hope oil stays resonably prices as nuclear power doesnt stand a chance of ever getting in here

irish_bob · 12-09-2008 01:02PM

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Thank goodness this mad hatter is retiring from her job as teacher next week, I can only imagine what nonsense she is planting in kids minds.

further enforces the widely held belief that no one can be sacked from the public service no matter how inept or in this case nutty they are

long live benchmarking bertie

irish_bob · 12-09-2008 01:04PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

hope she dies... sick of those ignorant farmers and their stupidity

only a stupid person would think that a farmer would have so much time off from his work to engage in what this teacher is doing

starflake · 12-09-2008 01:44PM

panda100 wrote: »

million each hour (!) than the fighting ordinary Irish people and community of Rossport who are protecting their country,their homes and our resources?

The people of Rossport are behind this. It's mostly people from outside of the area protesting.. And tell me how the government are supposed to fund drilling of that area off their own backs? What ordinary irish people do you see protesting out there? not me, not you....

Ordinary irish people are getting on with their day to day.. The money is costs for the garda force down there at the moment is money that could be spent on other things put back on education... enlightening young minds on a future alternative to locking yourself in a car on a hunger strike.... What difference is one woman going to make to Shell?!

The whole thing just pisses me off so much... I dislike the protesters because they are standing up for people that dont want their help, in a place they're not from, from a situation they can do nothing about. And ok, I might not be articulate or well reseached enough to back up my points correctly, but i guess thats working class for you... and hey... we don't are about it and we dont need protesters protesting something we are ok with

Dudess · 12-09-2008 01:52PM

Whether I agree or disagree with her, I still say fair play to her for believing in something so passionately that she's willing to starve for it. People who are saying they hope she dies etc - why? What's she doing that's so awful? You might think what she's doing is ridiculous but saying you hope she dies is incredibly juvenile. She's not doing anything to you so no need for such cantankerousness...

mgmt · 12-09-2008 02:18PM

This woman is incredibly retarded. I just watched this video of her. She seems to be arguing that Ireland will lose close to a Trillion Euro by not using communist methods and bringing in the gas ourselves. She is willing to risk her life over this. She also brings up the old favourite of ppars and voting machines. I hate all these hippies standing in the way of progress.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 12-09-2008 02:44PM

mgmt wrote: »

This woman is incredibly retarded. I just watched this video of her. She seems to be arguing that Ireland will lose close to a Trillion Euro by not using communist methods and bringing in the gas ourselves. She is willing to risk her life over this. She also brings up the old favourite of ppars and voting machines. I hate all these hippies standing in the way of progress.

Define "progress".

Adamcp898 · 12-09-2008 03:46PM

Even if she does go so far that she'll be in danger of dying can they not get Court rulings to allow doctors to basically force feed them by hooking them up to tubes???

starflake · 12-09-2008 03:49PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Define "progress".

To me progress is 'working towards a goal. Oh and I'm not answering on behalf of the person to whom your post was intended, pardon me if this seams rude

Poccington · 12-09-2008 03:51PM

jaycen wrote: »

A matter of human rights wouldn't go astray either but you seem to have convieniently omitted that.

What matter was that exactly?

whiskeyman · 12-09-2008 04:09PM

Anyone snapped a photo of her eating a sneaky Snickers yet?

missmatty · 12-09-2008 04:10PM

I am from near there. She is a looper, and as someone already said, was a crazee long before Shell arrived in town for her to focus her energies on :pac:

So sick of the lot of this. Really. Sure and anyway have you seen her? She could be dead by Monday the size of her

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 12-09-2008 04:11PM

starflake wrote: »

To me progress is 'working towards a goal. Oh and I'm not answering on behalf of the person to whom your post was intended, pardon me if this seams rude

No worries - it's an open forum.

But it depends on what the goal is. If it's a spirtual or enviromental goal, she technically is making 'progress'.

If the goal is the betterment of the country (and there's no guarantee that this is a more worthwhile or 'honest' goal), then agreed, she's getting in the way. But If that were the case, then 'd prefer to vent my anger towards all the fvckwits that voted FF in the last election. Or indeed FF themselves. When they squandered the weather of the Celtic tiger and refused to improve public services, this has proven a far bigger hindrance to 'progress' and Ms Harrington not eating. And rather they died than she did.

Rossport Hunger strike: It's day one

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