Whatever happened the Ozone Layer...?

Dub13 · 05-08-2008 7:12pm #1

Ten years ago all you ever heard was scaremongering about the Ozone layer,you could not use a bit of deodorant as it would make the hole in the Ozone layer bigger.It got to the stage were we had Ozone layer friendly fridges.

So environment knowledgeable people whats the story with the Ozone layer,does it still have a whole but just not hip to talk about...?

javaboy · 05-08-2008 7:13pm

I always found the Ozone to be a bit of a hole tbh.

afatbollix · 05-08-2008 7:15pm

i also like how global warming is now climate change???

05-08-2008 7:15pm

Rupert Murdock now owns it.

deaddonkey · 05-08-2008 7:16pm

we don't use CFCs in europe anymore, or at least it's very strictly limited.

Chlorofluorocarbons are what causes damage to the Ozone layer.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 05-08-2008 7:16pm

Dub13 wrote: »

Ten years ago all you ever heard was scaremongering about the Ozone layer,you could not use a bit of deodorant as it would make the hole in the Ozone layer bigger.It got to the stage were we had Ozone layer friendly fridges.

So environment knowledgeable people whats the story with the Ozone layer,does it still have a whole but just not hip to talk about...?

you leave the ozone layer alone. yes, it has a hole, that's right, and it's very sensitive about it.

Parsley · 05-08-2008 7:19pm

Far as I know, the hole closed itself.

[-0-] · 05-08-2008 7:21pm

The entire north pole could be completely melted in a month or two.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/weather/06/27/north.pole.melting/

Winters · 05-08-2008 7:22pm

I remember seeing something on news scientist or something similar recently.

Effectivly the "Ozone Hole" is constantly expanding and contracting above us nad has been doing so for a very long time. Media made a large hullabaloo about it which didnt help, however it does not take away from the fact that yes, climate change exists and we are not helping it etc. etc.

Seachmall · 05-08-2008 7:25pm

Wincest is best! wrote: »

however it does not take away from the fact that yes, climate change exists and we are not helping it etc. etc.

Yes, however it is happening and will happen anyway regardless if we stop ****ting into the atmosphere. Any attempt to stop ****ting into the atmosphere (I just like saying it) will only prolong the hope of people before ULTRA-DISTRUCTION... or not...

... ****ting into the atmosphere... *titters like a little girl*

Nolanger · 05-08-2008 7:27pm

20 years ago it was a future AIDS epidemics.
10 years ago it was the Ozone Layer.
Now it's Climate Change.

Every era has a moral panic scare that self-righteous people can latch on to and give their sad lives a cause.

When we're old the movie An Inconvenient Truth will be considered science fiction.

Guy:Incognito · 05-08-2008 7:28pm

Just like God, everyone will eventually realise that it's a load of made up bollox (use wrecking the shop I mean)

Seachmall · 05-08-2008 7:35pm

Nolanger wrote: »

20 years ago it was a future AIDS epidemics.
10 years ago it was the Ozone Layer.
Now it's Climate Change.

Every era has a moral panic scare that self-righteous people can latch on to and give their sad lives a cause.

When we're old the movie An Inconvenient Truth will be considered science fiction.

The slide shown in 'An Inconvenient Truth':
http://www.koshland-science-museum.org/exhibitgcc/images/historical03.gif

The whole thing:
http://www.koshland-science-museum.org/exhibitgcc/images/historical02.gif

He lied to us!!

Winters · 05-08-2008 7:38pm

The ozone hole was first discovered in 1985, is not natural, and at the current rate should be closed up by 2070, Nearly 80 percent of the ozone-depleting chemicals in the atmosphere are man-made.

So .. erm. yeah. Maybe we were somewhat at fault but by stopping the use of some chemicals it is helping reduce the damaging effect we had. So science sites tell me.

Gran Hermano · 05-08-2008 7:49pm

Wincest is best! wrote: »

however it does not take away from the fact that yes, climate change exists and we are not helping it etc. etc.

Climate changes happened before man existed on this planet.

Climate changes happened at rates faster than we are currently experiencing.

Climate on this planet fluctuates naturally over time and will continue to
do so after mankind is extinct.

Global temperatures rise in an interglacial period. We are currently
in an interglacial period.

Governments find many reasons to tax people and justify expenditure -
we've had the Nazis, Russians, A-bombs, Ozone layer, Saddam, global
warming, climate change... I wonder what's next in the grand scheme
of things to justify taxation and cause fear amongst the proles.

Guy:Incognito · 05-08-2008 7:52pm

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Climate changes happened before man existed on this planet.

.

You lie. The ice age was a Holywood creation.

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Governments find many reasons to tax people and justify expenditure -
we've had the Nazis, .

Theres a Nazi tax? :eek:

Mossy Monk · 05-08-2008 7:52pm

It doesn't make any money probably. Climate Change is where the dollars are.

pickarooney · 05-08-2008 7:55pm

Bring back acid rain!

TheNog · 05-08-2008 7:57pm

Parsley wrote: »

Far as I know, the hole closed itself.

and the hole has been replaced with a scab

Winters · 05-08-2008 7:58pm

pickarooney wrote: »

Bring back acid rain!

Made having a hair cut so much easier

Seachmall · 05-08-2008 8:04pm

Stekelly wrote: »

Theres a Nazi tax? :eek:

Any Jew had to pay the Nazi goverment, usually they had to pay with their life :eek:

Bad taste?

Dub13 · 05-08-2008 8:05pm

pickarooney wrote: »

Bring back acid rain!

Yes...that was great stuff when it was out.

shenanigans1982 · 05-08-2008 8:11pm

As far as I know Captain Planet fixed it....don't quote me on that though.

Agamemnon · 05-08-2008 8:20pm

Nolanger wrote: »

20 years ago it was a future AIDS epidemics.
10 years ago it was the Ozone Layer.
Now it's Climate Change.

Every era has a moral panic scare that self-righteous people can latch on to and give their sad lives a cause.

When we're old the movie An Inconvenient Truth will be considered science fiction.

30 years ago, it was worldwide famine caused by the "Population Bomb". Happily, all the eco-scaremongers were talking out of their holes.

Jack Sheehan · 05-08-2008 8:21pm

The rate of depletion is slowing hugely since all developed countries have banned the use of CFCs and HCFCs. Gases already in the atmosphere (CFCs last a long time) as well as developing countries still using the gases mean that it will be a few hundred years before the hole is fully closed.

Just because something isn't in the news does not mean it isn't happening.

Hogmeister B · 05-08-2008 8:23pm

The hole in the ozone layer stopped expanding thanks to such measures as ozone-friendly fridges. EU regulations and global agreement restricting use of CFCs more or less solved the problem.

Nolanger wrote:

When we're old the movie An Inconvenient Truth will be considered science fiction.

Will the facts that carbon dioxide traps heat in the atmosphere (you could verify this in a simple experiment in a secondary school science lab) and that human activity has vastly and very rapidly increased the proportion of it in the atmosphere also be 'fiction'?

Seachmall · 05-08-2008 8:36pm

Hogmeister B wrote: »

The hole in the ozone layer stopped expanding thanks to such measures as ozone-friendly fridges. EU regulations and global agreement restricting use of CFCs more or less solved the problem.

Will the facts that carbon dioxide traps heat in the atmosphere (you could verify this in a simple experiment in a secondary school science lab) and that human activity has vastly and very rapidly increased the proportion of it in the atmosphere also be 'fiction'?

His point is its a natural cycle (which it is) and although we may be cotributing to a slight increase in speed it will not be the end of the world as we know it (which it won't)

Look at all the other claims made, they are the exact same thing as this.

Parsley · 05-08-2008 9:17pm

Hogmeister B wrote: »

Will the facts that carbon dioxide traps heat in the atmosphere (you could verify this in a simple experiment in a secondary school science lab) and that human activity has vastly and very rapidly increased the proportion of it in the atmosphere also be 'fiction'?

Volcanoes spew approximately 50 times more CO2 into the atmosphere than human activities do. I'd hardly call one fiftieth a "vast" proportion.

taidghbaby · 05-08-2008 9:41pm

i heard the roma took it

Macha · 05-08-2008 9:45pm

Parsley wrote: »

Volcanoes spew approximately 50 times more CO2 into the atmosphere than human activities do. I'd hardly call one fiftieth a "vast" proportion.

Wow another baseless fact to justify doing nothing about carbon emissions. Never thought I'd see that in AH..care to provide a credible source for that fact? The reality is that at most, volcanoes release about 250m tonnes/year & human release 6 GIGATONNES. A wee bit off the mark there...

As the others have said, it is CFCs that caused the damage to the ozone layer. After the Montreal Protocol in 1987 (a bit like Rio in '92), many countries banned the use of CFCs, particularly in fridges. Its one of the reasons local authorities will take back old fridges free of charge - so that the CFCs don't end up in the atmosphere.

Just because Sky News aren't screaming & running enormous red banners about it every 5 minutes doesn't mean nothing is happening.

RandolphEsq · 05-08-2008 11:26pm

Mossy Monk wrote: »

It doesn't make any money probably. Climate Change is where the dollars are.

Yeah like those stupid ****ing piece of **** lightbulbs that we are getting. God they ****ing piss me off so much.
I break into buildings at night and turn on all the lights then leave the buildings alone all lit up

Whatever happened the Ozone Layer...?

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