Whatever happened the Ozone Layer...?

Dub13

Ten years ago all you ever heard was scaremongering about the Ozone layer,you could not use a bit of deodorant as it would make the hole in the Ozone layer bigger.It got to the stage were we had Ozone layer friendly fridges.

So environment knowledgeable people whats the story with the Ozone layer,does it still have a whole but just not hip to talk about...?

javaboy

I always found the Ozone to be a bit of a hole tbh.

afatbollix

i also like how global warming is now climate change???

Rupert Murdock now owns it.

deaddonkey

we don't use CFCs in europe anymore, or at least it's very strictly limited.

Chlorofluorocarbons are what causes damage to the Ozone layer.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Dub13 wrote: »

Ten years ago all you ever heard was scaremongering about the Ozone layer,you could not use a bit of deodorant as it would make the hole in the Ozone layer bigger.It got to the stage were we had Ozone layer friendly fridges.

So environment knowledgeable people whats the story with the Ozone layer,does it still have a whole but just not hip to talk about...?

you leave the ozone layer alone. yes, it has a hole, that's right, and it's very sensitive about it.

Parsley

Far as I know, the hole closed itself.

[-0-]

The entire north pole could be completely melted in a month or two.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/weather/06/27/north.pole.melting/

Winters

I remember seeing something on news scientist or something similar recently.

Effectivly the "Ozone Hole" is constantly expanding and contracting above us nad has been doing so for a very long time. Media made a large hullabaloo about it which didnt help, however it does not take away from the fact that yes, climate change exists and we are not helping it etc. etc.

Seachmall

Wincest is best! wrote: »

however it does not take away from the fact that yes, climate change exists and we are not helping it etc. etc.

Yes, however it is happening and will happen anyway regardless if we stop ****ting into the atmosphere. Any attempt to stop ****ting into the atmosphere (I just like saying it) will only prolong the hope of people before ULTRA-DISTRUCTION... or not...

... ****ting into the atmosphere... *titters like a little girl*

Nolanger

20 years ago it was a future AIDS epidemics.
10 years ago it was the Ozone Layer.
Now it's Climate Change.

Every era has a moral panic scare that self-righteous people can latch on to and give their sad lives a cause.

When we're old the movie An Inconvenient Truth will be considered science fiction.

Guy:Incognito

Just like God, everyone will eventually realise that it's a load of made up bollox (use wrecking the shop I mean)

Seachmall

Nolanger wrote: »

20 years ago it was a future AIDS epidemics.
10 years ago it was the Ozone Layer.
Now it's Climate Change.

Every era has a moral panic scare that self-righteous people can latch on to and give their sad lives a cause.

When we're old the movie An Inconvenient Truth will be considered science fiction.

The slide shown in 'An Inconvenient Truth':
http://www.koshland-science-museum.org/exhibitgcc/images/historical03.gif

The whole thing:
http://www.koshland-science-museum.org/exhibitgcc/images/historical02.gif

He lied to us!!

Winters

The ozone hole was first discovered in 1985, is not natural, and at the current rate should be closed up by 2070, Nearly 80 percent of the ozone-depleting chemicals in the atmosphere are man-made.

So .. erm. yeah. Maybe we were somewhat at fault but by stopping the use of some chemicals it is helping reduce the damaging effect we had. So science sites tell me.

Gran Hermano

Wincest is best! wrote: »

however it does not take away from the fact that yes, climate change exists and we are not helping it etc. etc.

Climate changes happened before man existed on this planet.

Climate changes happened at rates faster than we are currently experiencing.

Climate on this planet fluctuates naturally over time and will continue to
do so after mankind is extinct.

Global temperatures rise in an interglacial period. We are currently
in an interglacial period.


Governments find many reasons to tax people and justify expenditure -
we've had the Nazis, Russians, A-bombs, Ozone layer, Saddam, global
warming, climate change... I wonder what's next in the grand scheme
of things to justify taxation and cause fear amongst the proles.

Guy:Incognito

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Climate changes happened before man existed on this planet.

.

You lie. The ice age was a Holywood creation.

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Governments find many reasons to tax people and justify expenditure -
we've had the Nazis, .

Theres a Nazi tax? :eek:

Mossy Monk

It doesn't make any money probably. Climate Change is where the dollars are.

pickarooney

Bring back acid rain!

TheNog

Parsley wrote: »

Far as I know, the hole closed itself.

and the hole has been replaced with a scab

Winters

pickarooney wrote: »

Bring back acid rain!

Made having a hair cut so much easier

Seachmall

Stekelly wrote: »

Theres a Nazi tax? :eek:

Any Jew had to pay the Nazi goverment, usually they had to pay with their life :eek:

Bad taste?

Dub13

pickarooney wrote: »

Bring back acid rain!

Yes...that was great stuff when it was out.

shenanigans1982

As far as I know Captain Planet fixed it....don't quote me on that though.

Agamemnon

Nolanger wrote: »

20 years ago it was a future AIDS epidemics.
10 years ago it was the Ozone Layer.
Now it's Climate Change.

Every era has a moral panic scare that self-righteous people can latch on to and give their sad lives a cause.

When we're old the movie An Inconvenient Truth will be considered science fiction.

30 years ago, it was worldwide famine caused by the "Population Bomb". Happily, all the eco-scaremongers were talking out of their holes.

Jack Sheehan

The rate of depletion is slowing hugely since all developed countries have banned the use of CFCs and HCFCs. Gases already in the atmosphere (CFCs last a long time) as well as developing countries still using the gases mean that it will be a few hundred years before the hole is fully closed.

Just because something isn't in the news does not mean it isn't happening.

Hogmeister B

The hole in the ozone layer stopped expanding thanks to such measures as ozone-friendly fridges. EU regulations and global agreement restricting use of CFCs more or less solved the problem.

Nolanger wrote:

When we're old the movie An Inconvenient Truth will be considered science fiction.

Will the facts that carbon dioxide traps heat in the atmosphere (you could verify this in a simple experiment in a secondary school science lab) and that human activity has vastly and very rapidly increased the proportion of it in the atmosphere also be 'fiction'?

Seachmall

Hogmeister B wrote: »

The hole in the ozone layer stopped expanding thanks to such measures as ozone-friendly fridges. EU regulations and global agreement restricting use of CFCs more or less solved the problem.



Will the facts that carbon dioxide traps heat in the atmosphere (you could verify this in a simple experiment in a secondary school science lab) and that human activity has vastly and very rapidly increased the proportion of it in the atmosphere also be 'fiction'?

His point is its a natural cycle (which it is) and although we may be cotributing to a slight increase in speed it will not be the end of the world as we know it (which it won't)

Look at all the other claims made, they are the exact same thing as this.

Parsley

Hogmeister B wrote: »

Will the facts that carbon dioxide traps heat in the atmosphere (you could verify this in a simple experiment in a secondary school science lab) and that human activity has vastly and very rapidly increased the proportion of it in the atmosphere also be 'fiction'?

Volcanoes spew approximately 50 times more CO2 into the atmosphere than human activities do. I'd hardly call one fiftieth a "vast" proportion.

taidghbaby

i heard the roma took it

Macha

Parsley wrote: »

Volcanoes spew approximately 50 times more CO2 into the atmosphere than human activities do. I'd hardly call one fiftieth a "vast" proportion.

Wow another baseless fact to justify doing nothing about carbon emissions. Never thought I'd see that in AH..care to provide a credible source for that fact? The reality is that at most, volcanoes release about 250m tonnes/year & human release 6 GIGATONNES. A wee bit off the mark there...

As the others have said, it is CFCs that caused the damage to the ozone layer. After the Montreal Protocol in 1987 (a bit like Rio in '92), many countries banned the use of CFCs, particularly in fridges. Its one of the reasons local authorities will take back old fridges free of charge - so that the CFCs don't end up in the atmosphere.

Just because Sky News aren't screaming & running enormous red banners about it every 5 minutes doesn't mean nothing is happening.

RandolphEsq

Mossy Monk wrote: »

It doesn't make any money probably. Climate Change is where the dollars are.

Yeah like those stupid ****ing piece of **** lightbulbs that we are getting. God they ****ing piss me off so much.
I break into buildings at night and turn on all the lights then leave the buildings alone all lit up

Carsinian Thau

Dub13 wrote: »

whats the story with the Ozone layer?

I raped it.

Shameful night. Fun. But shameful.

Krsnik87

Lots of intellegent answers here ^*cough*cough*^ lmao....

Aids, ozone, succubus, there all just paths to human awareness. The situation may be dire but theres NOT MUCH you can do to change it.

Every little helps though!!!

RandolphEsq

Krsnik87 wrote: »

Every little helps though!!!

You can go suck mah balls with your hidden message to buy lightbulbs in Tesco. Begone pesky rodent. Out,Out!

Krsnik87

I've been found out!

Tesco away!

/zoooooooooooooooooooooooooooom

Dub13

taconnol wrote: »

Just because Sky News aren't screaming & running enormous red banners about it every 5 minutes doesn't mean nothing is happening.

If its not Breaking News on Sky News it is not happening,fact.

Carsinian Thau

Dub13 wrote: »

If its not Breaking News on Sky News it is not happening,fact.

So my secret decorative vase smuggling ring hasn't been discovered and I'm not going to jail?

Sweet!

Dub13

Carsinian Thau wrote: »

So my secret decorative vase smuggling ring hasn't been discovered and I'm not going to jail?

Sweet!

No jail for you....continue living the dream my friend.

Guy:Incognito

Remember when Ebola was the latest fad there for a while and we were all going to get it and be found as liqufied puddles? Ah, good times.


Hopefully we can move on fromt he whoel climate change thing soon and move the cycle on to something else. Sky news seemed to be doing their best to make kids stabbing each other the new climate change there for a couple of weeks.

Dub13

Stekelly wrote: »

Sky news seemed to be doing their best to make kids stabbing each other the new climate change there for a couple of weeks.

Yea I noticed that,the price of knives could well go through the roof it could be the time to take the savings out of the bank and buy in bulk.We could make a fortune.

MagicMarker

I thought there was a comeback tour in the works?

ART6

Dub13 wrote: »

Yea I noticed that,the price of knives could well go through the roof it could be the time to take the savings out of the bank and buy in bulk.We could make a fortune.

I heard that the government is about to place a heavy tax on knives, which will be defined as any device made of metal or plastic with one or more sharp edges, to discourage their use. That will make butchering livestock for meat uneconomic, so farmers will no longer raise meat cattle and sheep. Since they will, therefore, be no longer farting methane into the atmosphere global warming will stabilise. Two problems solved at once with a simple tax. My faith in politicians is restored:P

Sherifu

Dub13 wrote: »

Ten years ago all you ever heard was scaremongering about the Ozone layer,you could not use a bit of deodorant as it would make the hole in the Ozone layer bigger.It got to the stage were we had Ozone layer friendly fridges.

So environment knowledgeable people whats the story with the Ozone layer,does it still have a whole but just not hip to talk about...?

Think we solved that problem when we got rid of CFCs. /checks under bed

anto-t

anto-t wrote: »

i also like how global warming is now climate change???

I've heard two reasons a while back:

A - Coined by the US and India to make the whole thing sound less dramatic

or

B - Change of phrase to emphasise that we won't be basking on the beach in the middle of winter, rather our summers won't exist.

ART6

Karsini wrote: »

I've heard two reasons a while back:
Change of phrase to emphasise that we won't be basking on the beach in the middle of winter, rather our summers won't exist.

What summers

ART6

ART6 wrote: »

What summers

Exactly.

djpbarry

Nolanger wrote: »

20 years ago it was a future AIDS epidemics.

Yeah, there's no AIDS epidemic in Africa; that's just media hype.

Nolanger wrote: »

10 years ago it was the Ozone Layer.

Yep, that big hole over Antarctica isn't real. Nope, nothing to see here.

Nolanger wrote: »

Now it's Climate Change.

Now don't you go worrying about reality. Just climb back in your little bubble and everything will be just dandy.

Seachmall wrote: »

His point is its a natural cycle (which it is)...

What is?

rhapsody!

Nolanger wrote: »

20 years ago it was a future AIDS epidemics.
10 years ago it was the Ozone Layer.
Now it's Climate Change.

Every era has a moral panic scare that self-righteous people can latch on to and give their sad lives a cause.

When we're old the movie An Inconvenient Truth will be considered science fiction.

There was also speak of the super volcano. Basically all of Yellowstone park exploding and destroying the world.

Oh and an ice age within 50 years...

Yeah, I read Focus.. xD

Gone West

Ok the Earth changes, but those god damn CFCs absolutely annhialate ozone. One unit(cm^3 or whatever) of CFC will break down 50,000 units of ozone.

Its been said by many respected scientists, that CFCs were one of the worst things to come out of the centuary.

If the CFCs were left to run amok for another few decades ... I actually shudder to think what life would be like.

Without that ozone... You wouldn't really be able to spend any time outside in the sun, lots of plant life would die, it would dramatically and irrevocably change our planet.

MOH

Seachmall wrote: »

The slide shown in 'An Inconvenient Truth':
http://www.koshland-science-museum.org/exhibitgcc/images/historical03.gif

The whole thing:
http://www.koshland-science-museum.org/exhibitgcc/images/historical02.gif

He lied to us!!

Well if you look at either one it's going completely off the scale at the end, so not really.

Jack Sheehan wrote: »

Just because something isn't in the news does not mean it isn't happening.

Nonsense. For example, the US stopped flying troops through Shannon months ago. I know, because it's not in the news.

Carsinian Thau wrote: »

I raped it.

Shameful night. Fun. But shameful.

Doesn't that make you the ozone layer?
(or is it the ozone layer layer?)

Prof.Badass

did you know the guy who invented CFC's was also the guy who invented leaded petrol?

hah!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley