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PSNI Recruitment - Stage 2 - The Assessment Centre

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭inspector71


    Wanalaugh wrote: »
    Inspector, id say your vetting should be ok. It seems to be if your from down south, i think a few guys have had issues with the Garda not sending stuff back in time.
    Keep em fingers crossed and dont get too wound up pal. This forum seems to get us all in a fluster from time to time lol

    Cheers dude!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭pb999


    we have passed the a/c if we get our vetting forms (doesnt mean to say we've scored really well!) just that we've achieved whatever the minimum acceptable standard is. i read somewhere, perhaps on here that in order to save money now they are not doing medicals until you successfully pass vetting - perhaps an explanation as to why we got the forms so promptly??

    as for the cover letter, thats standard, exactly the same as the one i got in campaign 13, the 14 days etc is all just standard stuff.

    try not to stress to much about it, gotta think about your blood pressure for the medical!!! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭uncleneilly


    without trying to worry anyone, in c13 we were told we would hear ac results in 6 weeks, 2 days before that date i got my vetting forms so as you expect was over the moon, the next day i phoned consensia only to be told that all candidates were being sent out vetting forms and didn't neccesarily mean i had passed(talk about a downer) then the very next day (6 weeks to the day as we were told) i got a letter from consensia to say i had passed???? in saying that i can hardly see the psni sending out vetting forms for the good if their health so not really sure why consensia told me what they did


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭PapaYankeeGirl


    without trying to worry anyone, in c13 we were told we would hear ac results in 6 weeks, 2 days before that date i got my vetting forms so as you expect was over the moon, the next day i phoned consensia only to be told that all candidates were being sent out vetting forms and didn't neccesarily mean i had passed(talk about a downer) then the very next day (6 weeks to the day as we were told) i got a letter from consensia to say i had passed???? in saying that i can hardly see the psni sending out vetting forms for the good if their health so not really sure why consensia told me what they did


    I contacted consensia the other day and they said i should not assume i have passed, that all AC candidates would receive vetting forms. It takes long enough for the PSNI to trawl through the vetting as it is, so why would they want 100's more to vet, when they are actually fails. It takes alot of time, money and resources and i cant see the PSNI vetting everyone. Maybe PSNI moderator can shed some light. Im still taking the vetting forms as a sign that i have passed.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,810 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    I contacted consensia the other day and they said i should not assume i have passed, that all AC candidates would receive vetting forms. It takes long enough for the PSNI to trawl through the vetting as it is, so why would they want 100's more to vet, when they are actually fails. It takes alot of time, money and resources and i cant see the PSNI vetting everyone. Maybe PSNI moderator can shed some light. Im still taking the vetting forms as a sign that i have passed.

    The general rule is you get Vetting forms if you pass the A/C.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 721 ✭✭✭goodcopbadcop


    Believe me you passed. Stop worrying about it, if you had got no vetting forms for 6 months like me then it would be time to worry :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭uncleneilly


    i would tend to agree with psni and gcbc that you have passed just baffled as why consensia wont just say that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 721 ✭✭✭goodcopbadcop


    Consensia probably dont know how it works. The vetting is nothing to do with them. Then again anytime I called consensia they were very hard to get information out of.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭PapaYankeeGirl


    Thanks, PSNI, Goodcopbadcop and uncleneilly. :D:)

    GCBC- 6months?????????????????:confused::confused::confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 721 ✭✭✭goodcopbadcop


    6 months after I passed Ac until i got vetting forms


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭PapaYankeeGirl


    WOW:eek::eek:

    Do you know what the hold up was?

    I guess im lucky to get my before even 2weeks after my AC.

    Maybe they werent sure of the look of you, dodgy character!!!!:D Only kidding:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 721 ✭✭✭goodcopbadcop


    No idea.

    My theory based on the timing of other similar people getting their vetting is that I passed along with loads of others, and was kept on some kind of backup list incase i would be needed since there is generally less catholic applicants.


    I guess that by Feb of this year they calculated they would need extra catholics and then they sent me the vetting, medical etc.

    Why else would i be kept in the dark for so long?

    It also explains why there were people who passed and got Dear john letters and I didnt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭PapaYankeeGirl


    No idea.

    My theory based on the timing of other similar people getting their vetting is that I passed along with loads of others, and was kept on some kind of backup list incase i would be needed since there is generally less catholic applicants.


    I guess that by Feb of this year they calculated they would need extra catholics and then they sent me the vetting, medical etc.

    Why else would i be kept in the dark for so long?

    It also explains why there were people who passed and got Dear john letters and I didnt.

    Ah right. I hope they dont put me on some silly list. Here's a wee question for you, Will i receive a medical date before my vetting is complete?? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 721 ✭✭✭goodcopbadcop


    Well The list i have imagined is only because I was catholic I assume, since there are catholics being taken in with very high merit numbers.

    About getting your medical, I would think you will have it by september october. I dont know if it means your vetting is complete or not though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭PapaYankeeGirl


    :D
    Well The list i have imagined is only because I was catholic I assume, since there are catholics being taken in with very high merit numbers.

    About getting your medical, I would think you will have it by september october. I dont know if it means your vetting is complete or not though.


    Thanks, sorry for asking that question, you cant really give answers to questions like that.

    Well i must shimmy off to my TV and watch the bill:)

    Untill next time..............Take care and all the best


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 721 ✭✭✭goodcopbadcop


    Recruitment

    Police Trainees

    These provisions streamline the police trainee recruitment process to allow the PSNI to make provisional police trainee appointments, subject to the satisfactory completion of medical tests and security vetting

    13. These provisions will amend the Police (Northern Ireland) Act 2000 and change the police trainee recruitment procedures to allow the medicalassessment and security vetting processes to take place after the merit pool of candidates is established, instead of beforehand.

    14. As there are only a finite number of police trainee places available (440 per year), a large majority of candidates (at least 1800 per year) are not considered for a position as they fail to score high enough in merit order to be offered one of the limited number of places. These candidates are nevertheless subjected unnecessarily to the security vetting and medical assessment

    The policy objective of this proposal is to allow the Chief Constable to make provisional police trainee appointments subject to the satisfactory completion of medical tests and security vetting. Should a candidate fail either part of these processes, the Chief Constable can provisionally appoint the next applicant on the merit order list to replace the failed candidate.

    16. This will obviate the need for a large number of candidates, who will not be offered a police trainee position, being subjected unnecessarily to the medical assessment and security vetting processes Both the PSNI and Policing Board holdthe view that undertaking security vetting and medical examination of a large group of candidates to satisfy the “qualified applicant” criteria, when at the conclusion of the recruitment process only some of that group will have been successful, is both costly and time consuming.

    18. Each applicant costs approximately £300 to process through the securityvetting and medical assessment processes. A figure of at least £540,000 per annum is indicative of the savings to be achieved if 1800 fewer candidates were security vetted and medically assessed. As well as obviating the need for a large number of candidates to be subjected to the medical assessment and security vetting processes, the following
    efficiencies and advantages will be achieved as a result of this change:

    • Tangible annual cash savings of at least £540,000;
    • Non-tangible opportunity costs in terms of time delays and staff time.

    The overall PSNI recruitment process will be significantly streamlined and made more efficient e.g. the Patten Report recommended that the recruitment process is completed within 6 months. PSNI currently find this target challenging; it is critical that current recruitment processes are streamlined as much as possible before a recruitment contracting-out tender exercise is finalised in September 07.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 721 ✭✭✭goodcopbadcop


    sorry if the above is a bit hard to read but it was copied and pasted from a strange file type and was as good as i could get it.

    Its the draft document for the new recrutiment guidelines, been posted before but just incase anyone missed it, its interesting.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,810 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    I did a little tidying up on it there... good post!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 721 ✭✭✭goodcopbadcop


    Good work! ;)

    was a bit messy indeed. it should be useful for alot of people wondering what happens next and why, cause this is what I base anything I know about the process on, the rest is a guess :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Jason Clerkin


    Hi can anyone tell me a couple of things about the Roleplay..
    1. Can there be more then one actor involved in a given roleplay.
    2. In each of the scenarios am I taking the position of a policeman or can I be anybody?

    Also the written exercise seems like it is very similar to the situational interview except I have to put it in writing instead of talking about it.. Is this correct?

    Any help is appreciated :)

    P.s THanks Given for your advice in previous Thread... how did you get on in A/c.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭PapaYankeeGirl


    I knew getting vetting forms so early was too good to be true. I have failed i know i have. 25days till i find out for sure!!!!! Il cry for months!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭PapaYankeeGirl


    Hi can anyone tell me a couple of things about the Roleplay..
    1. Can there be more then one actor involved in a given roleplay.
    2. In each of the scenarios am I taking the position of a policeman or can I be anybody?

    Also the written exercise seems like it is very similar to the situational interview except I have to put it in writing instead of talking about it.. Is this correct?

    Any help is appreciated :)

    P.s THanks Given for your advice in previous Thread... how did you get on in A/c.

    Sorry this is short and sweet-

    Only 1 actor, but 2 assessors in the background

    You will/should never take the role of a police officer. You will be given a role like a manager or supervisor etc.

    Good luck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 SFMCC


    Hi jason
    The Situational interviews and the written part are marking different attributes which are shown on the green sheet you get from consensia (respect for diversity/problem solving etc). You should try and focus on these outcomes for each stage, one you will do by writing responses and the other orally. Hope this makes sense.
    Good luck for your AC's
    SFMCC


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 welshy1873


    Can any one give me advice on what to wear? I want to feel comfortable but not turn up like someone whos on a day off lol :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 SFMCC


    Everyone at my last AC's were in suits, I think it gives a better impression when you are presuming a specific role and want to look the part. But I don't think you would get marked down in any way its what you say and not how you look.
    I have mine today and will be dressed formal.
    SFMCC


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 381 ✭✭given1


    Hi can anyone tell me a couple of things about the Roleplay..
    1. Can there be more then one actor involved in a given roleplay.
    2. In each of the scenarios am I taking the position of a policeman or can I be anybody?

    Also the written exercise seems like it is very similar to the situational interview except I have to put it in writing instead of talking about it.. Is this correct?

    Any help is appreciated :)

    P.s THanks Given for your advice in previous Thread... how did you get on in A/c.

    hey, basically what pyg said in her short and sweet reply answered it for ya:D you may some times get 5 people in the during your role play, the actor, two accesors from consensia and rarley two independant people who make sure its a fair test!

    when is yours mate?

    cheers, it went good compared to last year and i passed last year, so hoping for a decent merit score!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 381 ✭✭given1


    SFMCC wrote: »
    Everyone at my last AC's were in suits, I think it gives a better impression when you are presuming a specific role and want to look the part. But I don't think you would get marked down in any way its what you say and not how you look.
    I have mine today and will be dressed formal.
    SFMCC

    all the best for your a/c SFMCC, hope ya hit them hard:)

    best of luck to all who are doing theyre a/c today and throughout the week!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭FootyFan24


    Hi,

    First off some good posts here, gave me loads of info!

    Second, does anyone know how long it takes between sending in your vetting forms and finding out if you cleared vetting? Also how long it takes to find out what merit number you are?

    Cheers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 judgedredd


    Big congrats to all who've got their vetting forms. I know a guy who had his AC on the 13th and hasn't recieved any vetting papers, soooo its a good sign to have got yours. Hmmm WPC PapaYankieGirl, got a sort of ring to it dont ya think :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭PapaYankeeGirl


    hahaha!!!!!! :D:D you've been quiet Judgedredd


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 721 ✭✭✭goodcopbadcop


    I knew getting vetting forms so early was too good to be true. I have failed i know i have. 25days till i find out for sure!!!!! Il cry for months!!!!!!!!

    You were convinced you had failed the Ist and were proved wrong.

    Now you have done the Ac and got vetting forms straight away and you still think you have failed. I would hate to see how you would be right now if others had got vetting forms and you didn't.

    You have clearly passed, Dont go through all this I failed stuff again :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 judgedredd


    hahaha!!!!!! :D:D you've been quiet Judgedredd


    Aye, just counting down the days to AC, well over a month to go yet! Keep telling myself it's more time to prepare but actually wish it was over and done with.

    Dont you early AC guys be taking all the places now ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 judgedredd



    You have clearly passed, Dont go through all this I failed stuff again :D

    Or maybe she's been a really bad girl and will take longer to vett :D




    only jokin!!!!!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭pathway


    Hello all,

    Ive got my A/C in the morning.

    Will keep you updated.:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 judgedredd


    pathway wrote: »
    Hello all,

    Ive got my A/C in the morning.

    Will keep you updated.:eek:

    Best of luck, fingers crossed for you. Co operation, Compromise!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭inspector71


    Good luck pathway!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭pathway


    Hello all,

    Thanks to all the well wishers.

    Glad to say I have just completed my assessment centre.

    Ive no idea how I have performed, but hope not to get a 'dear John' .

    I thought that the roleplayers would be more aggressive for some reason, but weren't...


    As usual , never enough time... I'm a bit of a waffler, in person and on paper....


    Going to try and forget about the process for a while if I can.

    The worst part is the waiting,now eh?

    Good luck to anyone still to do theirs!

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭pathway


    Don't want to throw out any negative vibes, but just wondering if anyone has been unsuccessful in the c14 A/C yet?

    Any feedback or scores? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 420 ✭✭alanbelfast


    Good luck with the results pathway

    Hope it works out for ya.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭inspector71


    pathway wrote: »
    Don't want to throw out any negative vibes, but just wondering if anyone has been unsuccessful in the c14 A/C yet?

    Any feedback or scores? :confused:

    I'd say there'l be no failures notified until the 6 week mark (or there abouts).
    It's probably not really to consensia's advantage to get that info out quickly.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭inspector71


    damn it i hate waiting for results!!!:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 Kirksbabe


    Hi Folks

    The waiting is the hardest part of all. I wake up in the mornings and it is the first thing in my head!! It hasn't been a week since my AC and it feels like I did it months ago!!!!:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 zerocoolio


    HIHI. I have my AC a the end of July.Still in shock that I passed the IST to be honest.Was just wondering with regards to dress,if the AC is a formal thing or is it casual? Laters for now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭PapaYankeeGirl


    Hey,

    PYG is on her usuall count down!!! 3weeks today untill AC results, even though I have my vetting forms posted and all!!!!

    All the best to those still waiting to do theirs.

    Well down to those who have received vetting forms:)

    Where's my sista MGH!!???:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭MrAnderson


    Hey guys, haven't been on here in ages!

    Good to see that there's been some proper progress since the last time I posted.

    I have my AC tomorrow and was just wondering if anyone who has done it so far has brought any kind of snacks/drinks with them?

    Was there anything provided at the location where you all were?

    Random question I know, but I get hungry very quickly!

    Cheers guys


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,012 ✭✭✭MrsGeneHunt


    Hey,

    PYG is on her usuall count down!!! 3weeks today untill AC results, even though I have my vetting forms posted and all!!!!

    All the best to those still waiting to do theirs.

    Well down to those who have received vetting forms:)

    Where's my sista MGH!!???:confused:

    Yo Sista!! Right here!!
    Have been lurking on the boards but not posting as not really much to contribute - still waiting to take the AC, is a few weeks away yet :(
    Wish it was over!!!

    Dont think you have much to worry about PYG as regards AC results!!!

    Will PM you later anyway babes for a catchup!

    Mr Anderson

    As regards food/drink etc I think I remember a post from waaaay back that there was tea/coffee available at the AC. I plan to bring a bottle of water with me but will be too nervous to eat, it will be a miracle if I can get the brekkie down me that morning without serious chundering to follow!!!!!:eek:





    Go prepared is what I say, if you think you'll get peckish then pack accordingly!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭carlty888


    MrAnderson wrote: »
    Hey guys, haven't been on here in ages!

    Good to see that there's been some proper progress since the last time I posted.

    I have my AC tomorrow and was just wondering if anyone who has done it so far has brought any kind of snacks/drinks with them?

    Was there anything provided at the location where you all were?

    Random question I know, but I get hungry very quickly!

    Cheers guys

    They will only provide water. If you're likely to get hungry, bring something to eat. You don't want to have to shout over all the noise your stomach will be making during the role plays.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 721 ✭✭✭goodcopbadcop


    I brought sandwhiches, water and jaffa cakes to my Ac last year, it came in handy let me tell you :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭carlty888


    Where is everybody these days?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,012 ✭✭✭MrsGeneHunt


    I brought sandwhiches, water and jaffa cakes to my Ac last year, it came in handy let me tell you :D

    Starvo!:D


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