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the inconsistencies thread [spoilers]

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  • 03-04-2008 12:17pm
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    Overheal
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    A thread for all of those stupid goings on that drive you insane. For example...

    I was watching an episode from season 3 of atlantis where
    the replicators occupy the city

    What really gets me, is 2 things:
    1. The replicators fire drones at Sheppard's jumper and he evades them by going underwater. Later in the same episode, Beckett uses the drone chair to fire drones underwater, hitting the City Star Drive.

    2. ZPMs. The replicators brought 3 ZPMs with them to power the city shield and the Star Drive. After the replicators are overthrown, where the hell do the ZPMs disappear?

    and wtf is up with Tealc wearing Gold facepaint in the first few seasons?


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    Sherifu
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    In the pilot episode, Apophis and his goons come to make trouble through the gate on Earth. There is no DHD and they don't use the computer based dialing device to dial out. So how do they dial the gate?


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    dudara
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    Overheal wrote: »
    and wtf is up with Tealc wearing Gold facepaint in the first few seasons?

    Did the gold paint thing disappear when he lost his symbiote and starting taking that drug instead? Or did it happen before that?


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    User45701
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    Before that.

    Great thread btw. but my mind is blank now. I know there a good few that i dont get but my mind is all gone.


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    Sherifu
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    Zats - Doing whatever the script requires.


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    Johnmb
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    Sherifu wrote: »
    In the pilot episode, Apophis and his goons come to make trouble through the gate on Earth. There is no DHD and they don't use the computer based dialing device to dial out. So how do they dial the gate?
    They used the arm-band type dialing device. The main inconsistency would be that I don't recall Apophis using it again, but others have used similar devices throughout the series.


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    senordingdong
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    How about how every piece of alien technology has a usb port.

    You'd think they'd upgrade to bluetooth.

    Or better still, in 'Forever In A Day', Teal'c fire his rope through the gate and it comes out the other side. Yet in 'Thirty Eight Minutes', we're toild that the jumper can't rematerialise untill it is fully entered.


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    Sherifu
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    Johnmb wrote: »
    They used the arm-band type dialing device.
    That's the popular explanation.


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    JIZZLORD
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    Overheal wrote: »
    and wtf is up with Tealc wearing Gold facepaint in the first few seasons?
    dudara wrote: »
    Did the gold paint thing disappear when he lost his symbiote and starting taking that drug instead? Or did it happen before that?

    from the episode citizen joe :
    JOE: I know the hair makes you look different, but didn't you used to be more gold-colored?


    i had a good chuckle when this was pointed out


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    Stabshauptmann
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    Can bearly remember the episode and havent been following SGA so maybe theres an easy explanation but:

    SG1 dialed the supergate from pegasus to prevent Ori reinforcements. What was stopping the wraith from invading the milky way this way?


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    helimachoptor
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    Kaptain Redeye wrote: »
    Can bearly remember the episode and havent been following SGA so maybe theres an easy explanation but:

    SG1 dialed the supergate from pegasus to prevent Ori reinforcements. What was stopping the wraith from invading the milky way this way?

    They need a ZPM to power the gate to get a connection from Pegasus to the milkyway.


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    User45701
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    No the gate was active. The gate being active was what stoped ori reinforcemetns from comming true. The wraith could have invaded though that gate, there was nothing to stop them.


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    Razers Edge
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    Overheal wrote: »
    A thread for all of those stupid goings on that drive you insane. For example...

    I was watching an episode from season 3 of atlantis where
    the replicators occupy the city

    What really gets me, is 2 things:
    1. The replicators fire drones at Sheppard's jumper and he evades them by going underwater. Later in the same episode, Beckett uses the drone chair to fire drones underwater, hitting the City Star Drive.

    2. ZPMs. The replicators brought 3 ZPMs with them to power the city shield and the Star Drive. After the replicators are overthrown, where the hell do the ZPMs disappear?

    and wtf is up with Tealc wearing Gold facepaint in the first few seasons?

    The 2nd thing was explained in the series
    1 ZPM stayed on atlantis to power the shield etc, the other 2 were sent to earth to 1 power the chair in antartica, and the other for use on the Opollo (earth ship), in the fight against the Ori


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    Overheal
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    Sherifu wrote: »
    In the pilot episode, Apophis and his goons come to make trouble through the gate on Earth. There is no DHD and they don't use the computer based dialing device to dial out. So how do they dial the gate?

    the answer to that is the even bigger spoof youre missing: they dialled the gate and killed all the poor poker rookies. They never re-dialed: the gate stayed active and they went back through: the first and only time anyone is seen using a worm hole bi-directionally.

    Razer when exactly did that happen/get mentioned? Tbh im missing all of the episodes after Return Pt II.

    I dont see why they didnt just bring the city to Earth to fight the Ori: Screw the Apollo!

    edit: very good point about the supergate. But theyd have to know about it: who needs to go travelling around a black hole to find an active stargate? Who has the time? Id say they simply never picked up on it.

    Also: Wraith Stun Tech. When a Dart captures mcKay he is released from the transporter hold and as a result, is stunned. Because apparently its designed to do that. When Wraith are transported in it, it doesnt. Theyre immune to it supposedly. So how come they can still be affected by Stun weapons? And in season 4 there was a mock version of the old Ring Transporter that used Wraith teleporter tech... the team went through it and didnt so much as get dizzy: killed every wraith on the other side -_-


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    Sherifu
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    Overheal wrote: »
    the answer to that is the even bigger spoof youre missing: they dialled the gate and killed all the poor poker rookies. They never re-dialed: the gate stayed active and they went back through: the first and only time anyone is seen using a worm hole bi-directionally.

    Razer when exactly did that happen/get mentioned? Tbh im missing all of the episodes after Return Pt II.

    I dont see why they didnt just bring the city to Earth to fight the Ori: Screw the Apollo!
    I shall rewatch at the earliest oppertunity to confirm.


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    Overheal
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    edit: here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HzmsyibX7Y damn apparently not. Maybe it was the DHD thing that pissed me off.

    new one though: those snake guards were almost bullet broof. since when?


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    Razers Edge
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    Overheal wrote: »
    Razer when exactly did that happen/get mentioned? Tbh im missing all of the episodes after Return Pt II.

    I dont see why they didnt just bring the city to Earth to fight the Ori: Screw the Apollo!

    It was in the next episode 'echoes', Rodneywas argueing with Elizabeth for keeping the zpms, and they explained what the other 2 were used for, and btw it was the Odyssey, not the Apollo the zpm was used for, my mistake :o
    Transcript of the episode is here http://www.gateworld.net/atlantis/s3/transcripts/312.shtml (contains spoilers)


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    Sherifu
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    Overheal wrote: »
    edit: here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HzmsyibX7Y damn apparently not. Maybe it was the DHD thing that pissed me off.

    new one though: those snake guards were almost bullet broof. since when?
    In fairness with the M16s they took down two snakies. It's possible they improved the P90s and their bullets. We don't see how they dial out. What I noticed watching the clip though is the incomming gate spins. Usually incomming gates just light up one chevron at a time.


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    iUseVi
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    Sherifu wrote: »
    In fairness with the M16s they took down two snakies. It's possible they improved the P90s and their bullets. We don't see how they dial out. What I noticed watching the clip though is the incomming gate spins. Usually incomming gates just light up one chevron at a time.

    Can't remember the episode, but you are right about the P90s. They mention that they are using "armor piercing teflon coated rounds".

    EDIT: Its "The Warrior" season 5.
    http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/stargate/season5/stargate-518.htm


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    senordingdong
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    Yeah the incoming wormhole seems to be at the dramatic disposal of the script.


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    Sherifu
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    senordingdong wrote: »
    Yeah the incoming wormhole seems to be at the dramatic disposal of the script.
    I think the only time it spins like that is in the pilot, I could be wrong though.


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    senordingdong
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    No sometimes it does spin for an incoming wormhole sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it just explodes open.


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    Overheal
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    Sherifu wrote: »
    In fairness with the M16s they took down two snakies. It's possible they improved the P90s and their bullets. We don't see how they dial out. What I noticed watching the clip though is the incomming gate spins. Usually incomming gates just light up one chevron at a time.

    youre quite right about P-90s - the FN P-90 uses custom 5.7mm FN Armor Piercing rounds. As does its companion sidearm, the Five-seveN.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_P90

    Then of course they got rid of Daniel's sneezing, the freeze-effect from exiting a wormhole and since when does making it spin generate wind?


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    Stabshauptmann
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    Overheal wrote: »
    youre quite right about P-90s - the FN P-90 uses custom 5.7mm FN Armor Piercing rounds. As does its companion sidearm, the Five-seveN.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_P90

    Then of course they got rid of Daniel's sneezing, the freeze-effect from exiting a wormhole and since when does making it spin generate wind?

    The two things that very quickly disappeared were
    A)The need to translate, everyone speaks English.
    B)The need to commutate a new address for earth to dial home from other planets. In theory the address for earth is dependant or where you are dialling from - and this was supported in a few early episodes, and remember any time they talk about planetary drift. Now maybe as part of the mission briefings teams are told the relevant dial home sequence, but there are a few episodes where ppl dial home when they're not even sure where they are.


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    Michael Collins
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    Overheal wrote: »
    Then of course they got rid of Daniel's sneezing

    He started taking antihistamines.
    the freeze-effect from exiting a wormhole

    They explained this was because initially the alignment of the gate was off due to stellar drift which was uncompenstated for since they weren't using a DHD, hence they could only dial Abydos, but then Sam accounted for the variance...
    and since when does making it spin generate wind?

    Where did this happen again?


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    Sherifu
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    Michael Collins wrote: »
    Where did this happen again?
    The pilot. Linked above.


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    Overheal
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    Yea but anytime they explain that crap they know what theyre doing - theyll poke at themselves for it.

    For example, the latest episode of SGA when Jon is thrown several thousand years into the future. Carter asks Rodney "Why didn't the gate's failsafe prevent the wormhole from locking?"

    McKay mumbles a bunch of meaningless gibberish before assuring Shepphard he would give Zelenka a stern talking to. :rolleyes:


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    Overheal
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    Puddle Jumper: the episode where it gets stuck in the gate? they say it cant go through because it needs 'inertia' unless it has its drive pods extended. But every time one of those things flies out of atlantis it does no such thing. Even since day one.

    And that
    wraith clone facility? surely they would be just as happy if they built it to clone humans! Endless supplies of food.


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    JohnK
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    User45701 wrote: »
    No the gate was active. The gate being active was what stoped ori reinforcemetns from comming true. The wraith could have invaded though that gate, there was nothing to stop them.
    Wasn't that gate in Pegasus being powered by a black hole? I would think that is a deterrent to any wraith invasion - that and the fact the black hole disrupted communications so the wraith ship couldnt report the active wormhole to anyone before its destruction.


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    Stabshauptmann
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    Hey can anyone answer this one for me. I was just watching Last Stand (Part 2) (SG1 5x16 - the one where Daniel is at the system lord's summit).

    Why are the goa'uld eating symbiotes?


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    Sir Digby Chicken Caesar
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    it was a subtle mad cow disease bit


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