Any sign of good weather?

Gonzo · 13-07-2007 11:53am

Ive definitely noticed that people in general have been more moany and in bad form over past 2 months coz the weather is getting alot of people down. Nearly everyone I know has cancelled some form of Irish based holiday/weekend away coz the weathers being so bad. Hotels/guesthouses on the coast that rely on a bit of warm sunny weather in the summer for increased tourist business most be feeling it right now. Day after day of grey skys and rain isnt what makes everyone happy. Alot of people say weather is boring and they dont care what its like but im a firm believer that it really does effect peoples attitude if theres too much of any one weather type.

JDxtra · 13-07-2007 12:13pm

Gonzo wrote:

Ive definitely noticed that people in general have been more moany and in bad form over past 2 months coz the weather is getting alot of people down. Nearly everyone I know has cancelled some form of Irish based holiday/weekend away coz the weathers being so bad. Hotels/guesthouses on the coast that rely on a bit of warm sunny weather in the summer for increased tourist business most be feeling it right now. Day after day of grey skys and rain isnt what makes everyone happy. Alot of people say weather is boring and they dont care what its like but im a firm believer that it really does effect peoples attitude if theres too much of any one weather type.

Totally agree - it really effects mood.

I'm meant to be off to Co. Clare for the weekend, but at least 5 days of rain is forecast and now I'm not bothered about going.

Snowbie · 13-07-2007 12:36pm

Posts,threads merged into this here.

Understandably alot of moaning going on about the weather atm.
So keep the moans and groans here and only here.

Jonny Arson · 13-07-2007 2:26pm

http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twoplus/twoforecasts/forregdaily.aspx?country=ei

I'm sure records will be smashed with the rain that is going to contuningly come until at least July 28th

so much for global warming :rolleyes:

Tchocky · 13-07-2007 2:28pm

Well, how about "climate change"?

ro_chez · 16-07-2007 3:51pm

Tchocky wrote:

Well, how about "climate change"?

Thats aload of crap aswell, it hasnt changed much in the last few months

Big Tone · 17-07-2007 1:15pm

Snowbie wrote:

Strong jet stream over us,kinda typical to Irish winter patterns.It should be futher north than where it is at this time of year alowing in the HP(azores high) to our south to come close to us but it cant with the strong jet over us.Untill that moves or shifts,well you can guess the rest.

Combine the lower strong jet stream with the effects of La Nina, the cooling of the Pacific, and the knock-on effects are felt around the globe!

Snowbie · 17-07-2007 2:45pm

Big Tone wrote:

Combine the lower strong jet stream with the effects of La Nina, the cooling of the Pacific, and the knock-on effects are felt around the globe!

In theory and only in certain parts of the globe.

irish_bob · 18-07-2007 8:27pm

Jonny Arson wrote:

http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twoplus/twoforecasts/forregdaily.aspx?country=ei

I'm sure records will be smashed with the rain that is going to contuningly come until at least July 28th

so much for global warming :rolleyes:

continous unnatural amounts of rain is a symptom of global warming or climate change you moron

mike65 · 18-07-2007 9:43pm

Play nice!

Jonny Arson may even have been a bit ironic by emphisising warming

Mike.

rc28 · 18-07-2007 9:44pm

The weather really is terrible, today a 182year old bridge was destroyed by a raging flash torrent after a 3hour downpour in connemara:
http://rte.ie/news/2007/0718/connemara.html

Big Tone · 19-07-2007 9:06am

Reports from the US suggest the jet stream in unusually strong for this time of year and had brought severe downpours and thunderstrorms (sound familiar?!?!) to the North-east Atlantic seaboard.

http://www.1010wins.com/pages/693643.php?contentType=4&contentId=699010

Marcus.Aurelius · 21-07-2007 5:14pm

Lads, seriously, when are we going to see some decent weather?

mike65 · 21-07-2007 5:44pm

Nope and its going to get bad again from tomorrow evening, monday looks like a washout for south and eastern parts esp.

The very best we can hope for is a general settling down in mid-late August with a good Sept I reckon.

Mike.

Supercell · 21-07-2007 9:13pm

Its good right now, go for a drive..nature is exploding.

This is a brilliant summer so far.

Snowbie · 22-07-2007 12:07am

Longfield wrote:

Its good right now, go for a drive..nature is exploding.

This is a brilliant summer so far.

In a strange funny perculiar kinda way id agree with you.My garden has started to bloom from the end of January.In the non showery month of april when we had all that sun and warmth it exploded into life.With what heat and the rain of late its just amazing to see my flower beds overgrown and needed to be trimmed back already,I tend do this in October.But I am getting concerned about water logging.With the hard table so low,the amount of standing water on fields is unbelievable for July,totally saturated.

In terms of contrast/extremes its amazing,the seasons that is and with this time last year.Thunderstorms potential most days for the last 6 weeks,we had a wind event,floods in some parts,funnel clouds(not uncommon for Ireland but frequent this year) and they LRF this summer back in Febuary as one of the warmest summers and years on record,did they forget to say dullest wettest on record too and where is the warmth.LRFs:rolleyes:

Me i like extremes of weather in every shape and form(also had the misfortunes of extremes before myself)it is why weather is the single but yet most important part of every day life and is unfortunately yet to be understood by most.

BostonB · 22-07-2007 1:21am

Snowbie wrote:

In a strange funny perculiar kinda way id agree with you.My garden has started to bloom from the end of January.In the non showery month of april when we had all that sun and warmth it exploded into life.With what heat and the rain of late its just amazing to see my flower beds overgrown and needed to be trimmed back already,I tend do this in October.But I am getting concerned about water logging.With the hard table so low,the amount of standing water on fields is unbelievable for July,totally saturated....

Same here. I'll need a combine harvester to cut my grass soon.

ninebeanrows · 22-07-2007 11:53am

It is really beginning to get on my nerves now!

Constant gloom and rain, it is okay when there is the possibility of thunderstorms and big puffy white clouds.

But the last couple of days have been awful, can't even sit out the back or do anything without getting wet.

Today was supposed to be a good day but its just disgusting, lets hope it clears up;)

22-07-2007 12:27pm

Longfield wrote:

This is a brilliant summer so far.

Not for the farmer.
You should see how wet the land is.

mike65 · 22-07-2007 5:39pm

Winter feed is going to be poor quality and some root/arable crops are going to be both poor quailty and short supply.

Mike.

BostonB · 22-07-2007 5:41pm

Tristrame wrote:

Not for the farmer.
You should see how wet the land is.

Judging by my garden the land must be pretty bad.

arctictree · 22-07-2007 5:51pm

My potato patch is doing really well though. Its on a well drained slope though so no water logging. All the rain has given the spuds exactly what they need to put on some bulk. BTW - The chart for tomorrow looks great for winter - not a nice summer one though....

http://www.met.ie/forecasts/atlantic-charts.asp

A

rc28 · 22-07-2007 6:13pm

BostonB wrote:

Judging by my garden the land must be pretty bad.

Yes,around me the fields are completely waterlogged and very muddy, the downpour the other night really worsened things and it's taking ages for the water to drain down. In one or two places there are floods usually only seen after periods of heavy rain in winter. In many fields the long grass has still yet to be cut for hay/silage which is very late.

rc28 · 22-07-2007 9:13pm

Just noticed this now; the lightning last week knocked out phone lines for thousands of people and there are still 5,000 left to be reconnected:
http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0722/eircom.html?ST=encunry_pynapl@lnubb.pb.hxRTEMAIL

Big Tone · 23-07-2007 9:14am

According to UK Met experts (quoted on page 8 of yesterday's ST) August is looking bad too.
They confirm what I have said here previously, the combination of La Nina (cooling of the Pacific), the strong Jet Stream several hundred miles more South than it should be at this time of the year (should be heading up North of Scotland), the effect of extreme heat in Central and South-eastern Europe colliding with Atlantic fronts here, and finally the warming of the Atlantic due to climate change.

BTW no tropical storms forming off west Africa due to extreme heat rising from the Sahara heading towards the Carribean and having a dampening effect on tropical storms/hurricanes, which is why it's a quiet Hurricane season so far.

Wake me up when August ends!!

arctictree · 25-07-2007 8:28am

Are we looking at a possible settled spell from Monday next onwards??:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/avnpanel1.html

Could be a bit early but it looks good on those charts...

A

rockdrummer · 25-07-2007 8:33am

That looks good to me, getting a bit warmer aswell, and Im off mon and tue !!!

LFCFan · 25-07-2007 9:01am

If those chart become a reality and we get some decent high pressure over us, does that mean that the Jet Stream will have pissed off somewhere else?

lucernarian · 25-07-2007 10:31am

They don't look impressive now. Some of them are suggesting HP forming to the south, but the PFJ is never far away and either it's just to the north or it's basically over us.

fatherdougalmag · 25-07-2007 11:21am

... but the PFJ is never far away ...

The People's Front of Judea? Splitters.

Big Tone · 25-07-2007 11:49am

To_be_confirmed wrote:

They don't look impressive now. Some of them are suggesting HP forming to the south, but the PFJ is never far away and either it's just to the north or it's basically over us.

Take a look and compare what we should have and what the situation is this Summer. Unless the Jet Stream shifts North then we can expect more of the same weather headlines for August:

1. In a 'normal' summer, the Atlantic jetstream directs areas of low pressure, which bring cloud and rain, to the north of the UK. High pressure systems over Europe and the Atlantic bring warm, settled conditions.

2. This summer, the jetstream is flowing further south allowing low pressure systems to sweep straight over the centre of Britain and Ireland. It is also pulling in warmer air from the sub-tropics and Africa which is sweeping over south-eastern Europe.

fatherdougalmag · 25-07-2007 3:40pm

Met E (via RTÉ) giving warnings about Sunday's puddle-maker:

There is a risk of some heavy rain developing through Saturday evening, night and Sunday morning. There is a possibility of between 20 and 40mm during this period.

nilhg · 25-07-2007 4:45pm

GFS doesn't agree, there are big differences between the various models at the moment, still some hope for something better.

fatherdougalmag · 25-07-2007 6:44pm

The GFS ensemble is indicating some activity

Big Tone · 25-07-2007 9:02pm

More proof as if it were needed that you'll have to head to southeast Europe for any sign of good weather!

mike65 · 25-07-2007 9:58pm

My sig link is looking hopeful again.

Mike.

rockdrummer · 27-07-2007 11:30am

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/avnpanel1.html

Things may be looking up for August - beginning looks gud at least up until next Sunday.

27-07-2007 11:46am

Two comments:
(1) 1020hpa is only technically high pressure.It can be wet in it,it's not enough to dry out a front.
(2)Here is the latest UKMO fax output and what do I see there...
Ah yes weather fronts driving through that 1020...
Looking at GFS panels in isolation does not a forecast make...
Expect dull and drizzle/rain a lot of the time and you won't be disappointed.

http://85.214.49.20/wz/pics/brack3a.gif

http://85.214.49.20/wz/pics/brack4a.gif

rockdrummer · 27-07-2007 11:56am

always the pessimist.....

But looking better, should I go as far as to say good for next weekend (4/5th August)

27-07-2007 12:10pm

No because numerical weather programmes in this kind of mobile situation are not reliable beyond about 5 days.

lucernarian · 27-07-2007 6:32pm

The PFJ looks as strong as ever, in the reliable timeframe. It still won't feck off up north. The farming forecast on Sunday will be interesting, just to see what new records are about to be formed. I have a suspicion that north Leinster and east Ulster will be approaching 400% of the monthly average. It was at 325% last Sunday.

And today's radar has been cruel aswell. Most of the country was dry this afternoon but we're drenched in showers...

Big Tone · 30-07-2007 7:56am

Conditions are set to improve for today on at least for southern and eastern parts of Ireland with an overall improvement for north-west europe.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn125.html

Snowbie · 30-07-2007 9:40am

What temperature wise? That chart is no different than the last few weeks.Even though its wet it was'nt terribly cold.

You need to see a chart like this for a very warm spell for a duration
By no means spectacular it was the best i could find with a warm southerly and lots of sun before a frontal trough brings in more moisture and sets off widespread storms;)

ninebeanrows · 30-07-2007 5:00pm

Some good charts coming through now, predictions of a nice high sitting over us by the weekend with temperatures in the mid twenties, ahhhhhhhhhhh bliss:D

Gonzo · 30-07-2007 11:11pm

today was the first decent dry, sunny & warmish day since the 1st week of June! I actually spent the whole day outside, had a bbq with friends, it was great! Im hoping that between now and the middle of September that there is a serious improvement over the non ending rain, cool temperatures and showers that we've had for the past 60 days.

HungryJoey · 31-07-2007 12:48am

Ahhh some heat & sun. Its just great.

Here's shots of some summer evening sky's ! :rolleyes:

Hj

Big Tone · 31-07-2007 10:21am

Snowbie wrote:

What temperature wise? That chart is no different than the last few weeks.Even though its wet it was'nt terribly cold.

Temps in low to mid 20s def better than the high teens of late.

31-07-2007 11:06am

Gonzo wrote:

today was the first decent dry, sunny & warmish day since the 1st week of June!

Nah we had a completely dry sunny warm day down here last thursday week iirc-I got sun burned.

I hope this is a fine spell for a few weeks pepping up,I really do but I would want to see that jet move north of Ireland.
Pressure is actually falling already here though the westerly is keeping it warm.

Weathercheck...mid 20's by the coast? have you a sea breeze barrier?

Snowbie · 31-07-2007 11:12am

Big Tone wrote:

Temps in low to mid 20s def better than the high teens of late.

Of course i agree,we can call it summer then.
24.5c is my highest temp ytd on June 12th.
22.3c highest for the month of July.
Not bad temps,but over a brief spell which is pretty poor by summer standards.Looks like August will top these temps in the first week at least.

god's toy · 31-07-2007 6:36pm

fatherdougalmag wrote:

The People's Front of Judea? Splitters.

HA! loved that line

*back on topic now*

Any sign of good weather?

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