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Applied computing WIT or Computer Science UCD?
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cyberwit wrote:I am not the one whom has a superiority complex
Awh thanks, im glad you think so highley of me
I was simply offering my option and did not once critique the Applied Computing course unlike some the information given above by me about the different computer course offered at WIT is accurate unlike the information provided by sully04 no offence intended.
No, but clearly you got offended when I said Commercial Computing was supposed to be ****e. You went of on a big rant, so much you posted twice
I offered my opinion, and you offered yours. Face facts man, there two different courses and one is clearly better then the other! I didnt really provide inaccurate information, you can never get an accurate review on a course. Commercial is ****e by some peoples standards, and award winning by yours. Nobody can ever win that argument really.
This discussion started as a dicussion between Applied Computing or Computer Science, but ended up as a debate on Commercial Computing being ****e, which course did what Maths topic first, which course students can spell better and then stating the other IT Related courses (which I commented on with as much accuracy as possible, as the college is never going to be fully honest about it).There is no more diplomas or higher certificates being offered for this years applicants, there are now three year ordinary degrees
after the first two years of the Commercial Computing course or Information Technology course according to a lecturer of mine they can still gain a higher cert if they want which they can use like i can this year to enter the second year of the applied computing course go on in the course they are in or go to another IT or a University (Note if they wish to enter a university with a higher certificate they will require a higher certificate at distinction or Merit 1 level).
Well when I was in 6th year, thats not what I was told by the college. Things must have changed, forgive me for not keeping an eye on changes of a course I have no interest in.When we did critical thinking in first year they showed us how to use a comma.
Thanks for that useful piece of information. Ill value that, amongst your other posts.
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Sully04 wrote:
This discussion started as a dicussion between Applied Computing or Computer Science, but ended up as a debate on Commercial Computing being ****e, which course did what Maths topic first, which course students can spell better and then stating the other IT Related courses (which I commented on with as much accuracy as possible, as the college is never going to be fully honest about it).
A discussion which i did not initiate. All i did was give my option on C++ which unlike you i have studied before then because of your own limitations you resolved to bad mouth my course.
christophicus asked about C++ and doing a 2/3 year degree which i answered by providing him/her with the different options (accurate information)
I am well aware that Applied Computing and Commercial Computing are two different courses i was not the one whom bad mouthed any course.christophicus wrote:I am increadibly supprised that you do not do C++ in the first year or two. Isnt C++ one of THE most commen lanuages?christophicus wrote:One of the lectureers came out to my school last year and gave a presentation on computing in WIT and he said somehting about being able to do a 2/3 year degree and then add on the third/fourth if you want, or you can start off saying you are going to deffinatly do the four years , you can do the four years .
The debate that went on in this forum ended for me along time ago all i wanted is to provided Unprejudiced information about the different options available at WIT for christophicus before the CAO deadline. THE DEBATE HAS NOW ENDED FOR ME. I HAVE NOW TAKEN THE HIGH ROAD.:Dcyberwit wrote:Current computer courses offered by WIT
Three years ordinary degree courses (3 years)
BSc Commercial Computing*
BSc Information Technology*
BSc Multimedia Applications Development*
Four years Honours degree courses (4 years)
BSc Hons in Physics with Computing
BSc Applied Computing
*Honours degrees for those whom successfully completed one of the ordinary degree's mentioned above (1 year after three years of BSc)
BSc Hons Commercial Software Development
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Are you still posting? ><A discussion which i did not initiate. All i did was give my option on C++ which unlike you i have studied before then because of your own limitations you resolved to bad mouth my course.
Interesting. You gave your option? Your letting your guard down cyber, last thing ya want is to show off the Commerical guys as having bad spelling!!
Anyway, you did C++ outside the course which isnt much help to the OP. Unless, its done within your course. I dont see how its my limitation, just cause my course didnt cover it yet. I did computers in LC (along with some VisualBasic) and then moved into the Applied Computing to expand my knowledge. Before choosing which IT course, I considered Commercial but was given so much bad reviews I decided not to go ahead with it. Dont blame me, blame them for giving me apparently false information!christophicus asked about C++ and doing a 2/3 year degree which i answered by providing him/her with the different options (accurate information)
He did? Where? His orignal post compared two courses;
Applied Computing / Computer Science which are 4 year degrees.
Commercial Computing isnt. And apparently, in the first two years of the course C++ wasnt done (tho it seemes to be mentioned as a language you use). Maybe if you decided to continue with the course, it is? You said you done C++ before entering the course. Absolute no use to the OP unless it actually is done within the course. Has it been for you?The debate that went on in this forum ended for me along time ago all i wanted is to provided Unprejudiced information about the different options available at WIT for christophicus before the CAO deadline.
Ah but in fairness, you did go off in a big rant with your angry smileys when I said that the course was apparently ****e and even offered you to make your opinion on the course. Not rant and rave about how we cant spell, how your all great at maths, how ya done same subjects or done others before us and even graduates were lucky enough to work with the government who as most of us are aware made a complete balls of anything IT related they tried to implemen!THE DEBATE HAS NOW ENDED FOR ME. I HAVE NOW TAKEN THE HIGH ROAD.
Ah here we go, loosing your head again! Your not a very good rep for your course. Anywhome, take it easy on that road mate. See you at the other end
OK since cyber has finished his ranting, and iv replied to his excellent posts - lets switch back onto the topic at hand.
chris:- Good to hear you put the course down as first choice. It does seem to be an excellent choice if you enjoy computing and want to graduate with a very good knowledge of computing to help you out in the market. If you need anything from me to give you a better feel, just ask. I can show you some notes / exam papers if you want or watever. I know the college aint great at helping out, so maybe I can help. 0 -
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cyberwit wrote:The link provided below gives a complete break down of the UCD Degree modules in Computers
https://sisweb.ucd.ie/usis/w_sm_web_inf_browser.show_major?p_term_code=200600&p_major_code=S0123&p_show_prog_link=Y&p_crumb=%23p1%23%3F%22%3E%20UCD%20Degrees%20by%20CAO%20Code%3C%2FA%3E
Information on there modules is provided anyway
A lot of that is what we have done in Applied Computing, which is handy to know 0 -
*reads Sully04 and Cyberwits "debate" *
*falls off chair laughing*
Jeese, you guys crack me up.
Dispite the bad reviews given about the Commercial Comp. Course, it isnt all that bad, I do it myself, though it wasnt my first choice, it was all that I was offered, even though I had the points for Applied Computing, and there were loads of spaces in that course, I didnt have the option, so I took what I got. And once I settled in, I decided to stick with it. And as for employers preference of straight degrees, my CV will show "Comercial Software Development" which is what you get as a Higher Degree if you stick with this course through to the end.
As for employer preference, a friend of mine doing Business in UCC (and never stops bragging about how "superior" UCC is to WIT) says that employers will always preference University graduates to IT graduates, dispite the superiority of most ITs in the IT courses, where as Uni courses tend to be more general pupose academic, not sure how true that statement is, but it is food for thought0 -
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rogue-entity wrote:*reads Sully04 and Cyberwits "debate" *
*falls off chair laughing*
No debate here. We are discussing the lack of detail in Undergraduate Prospectus.0 -
Applied computing not a bad course when the class bothers to show up
, C/C++ is mainly used in areas where code efficiency is the highest priority, in console programming for example, it part (ii) of the games development course offered you start c++ and then move on to "pure" c in part (iii) of the course.
The applied computing course seems very good i suppose, i'm doin the physics degree and cyberwit i have heard your course is ****e and even leading on to the higher degreee its still **** from what i've heard.
The lecturers are sound specially rob he teaches the computer architecture in first year at the moment anyway, the classes are shared for prog and computer architecture between physics and Applied computing.
Besides tis collage most important thing is to have a laugh0 -
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OK So i did **** all for the LC and to be honest I am suprised I didnt fail everything.
I got offered Commercial computing , so it looks like that is going to be the coarse that I do. I am going to try and get in contact with someone at WIT and see if there is any way to move from commercial computing to applied computing at any stage.
It would be great if those of you doing the commercial computing coarse could tell me what you think of it . 0 -
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