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Applied computing WIT or Computer Science UCD?

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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    ec18 wrote:
    neon glows is a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssstttttttteeeeeeeeeer
    waster, go get a haircut

    Get a grip. If you are who I think you are, you have longer hair.

    Seriously, this was a good discussion until it turned into a bitching session!! Back ON TOPIC!!

    junior_apollo; When did you graduate? The course has changed a lot since you did it. What did you think of the Maths?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,756 ✭✭✭ec18


    hehe your so serious sully


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭christophicus


    Well I did the Applied Computing course after doing the now gone cert in Industrial Computing. This also meaning that I did the Industrial side of the Applied Computing course.

    Wouldnt change it for the world... Easily the highest degree that WIT can offer - its even been adopted by international universities I just saw the other day in the Alumni monthly booklet.

    I pretty much had my pick of jobs after finishing up in WIT so went off to Oz for a year - enjoyed the life and came back to walk into almost any job I wanted here.

    Best course by far...

    I just checked theis forum it out to see if there were any more oppinions , its nice to see that there are, even if the bulk of them are about who may or may not suck .:P:D


    Was it the Applied computing course that got you the pick of jobs or Industrial computing??

    Also teh guy that came around and talked to us said that you do most of your learning through actually DOING what your learning about .eg writing code, instead of just learning off reams , is this true?


    Anyway at this rate it looks like I am going to fail the LC, I still havent started studying and I think I am well and truely fooked .:(


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Kind of true.. Not in every subject, but the majority in first year at least!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭AdMMM


    Just to let you guys know that WIT are introducing 3 new Computer Degrees this year which ARE NOT available through the CAO system. They are intended for direct application to the college.

    I'll try dig out the email if anyone's interested as the only specific course I can remember is the (B.sc [Hons] Computing and Psychology).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭christophicus


    Yeah cheers man it would be great if you could get some more info here about them .:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭Rawr!


    I misses me class at college :(

    Thats what I get for leavin!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭christophicus


    OK So i did **** all for the LC and to be honest I am suprised I didnt fail everything.

    I got offered Commercial computing , so it looks like that is going to be the coarse that I do. I am going to try and get in contact with someone at WIT and see if there is any way to move from commercial computing to applied computing at any stage.

    It would be great if those of you doing the commercial computing coarse could tell me what you think of it :) .


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Chris: After 2(or 3) years you have the option of doing the BSc Applied Computing (to go from a Cert to the Degree).

    Also, sometimes the college will make an exception and let you in to the BSc Applied Computing - they have done it before. If you email the course leader, she might be able to help. (Currently away I believe)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭christophicus


    OK so would that be the BSc (Honours) in Applied Computing ?

    Ok I will defo email her ( its Mairead Meagher isn't it?) , although I dont really have a leg to stand on asking for an exception because I only got 230 points anyway ( although I am appealing a fail) .


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Yes thats the BSc Hons in App. Comp.

    Not sure how it will work, I thought it might be a subject requirement you might have missed or just below the points. But ask anyway. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭christophicus


    Yeah its both, sure , there is no harm in asking anyway ;). I'll just be happy if I can get into Applied computing from Commercial Computing. Although obviously it would be great if I could somehow get into Applied computing straight away. Releasitically I doubt it will happen though Its Mairead Meagher that I have to get in contact with isnt it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭cyberwit


    Course Leader is Mary Lyng


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭cyberwit


    If you want to change to another course straight away don't wait to long you would have approx 2 weeks to change course after which they will not allow you. It happened to a girl in my course. If you want to wait its a three year degree BSc Commercial Computing, people whom still want to a leave after two years can get a higher cert and you can transfer into the second year of Applied Comnputing from that point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭christophicus


    Thanks for the information cyberwit, its much appreciated.

    Would it actually be possible for me to move to Applied computing, even though I did not get the points / requirements??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭cyberwit


    Ask the course learder she is extremly helpful. I would not know. But don't wait around to long to find out because two long and you will not be able to change into any course for two years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭cyberwit


    Look at the course and points requirements for commercial computing even though you may not have all the requirements or point for that course you are lucky they still offer the course to you. It happens so there is every chance they would allow you into applied computing straight away again ask the course leader.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭pointofnoreturn


    Hi, for someone coming from another IT, after completing Ordinary Degree in Computers, whats the chances in apply to the 1yr honors Commercial software development? for this September?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,756 ✭✭✭ec18


    the course leader for applied computing is mairead meagher, mary lyng must be commercial


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭pointofnoreturn


    ec18 wrote:
    the course leader for applied computing is mairead meagher, mary lyng must be commercial

    I think she may be for year 1,2 and 3, it shows a David Drohan for the Honors 1yr add-on http://www2.wit.ie/StudyatWIT/UndergraduateCourses/Science/BScHonsinCommercialSoftwareDev-WD068/


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Lads dont be getting confused here.

    1) Mairead Meagher is the course leader of the BSc (Hons) in Applied Computing. If you wish to go directly into that course, ask her.

    2) Mary Lyng is the course leader of the certificate course in Commercial Computing (discussed at length here). If you want to know more about it, ask her. If you want to know can you transfer after X years, ask her.

    Cyber isnt being very specific, but im assuming he is reffering to the fact you cant decide half way through your course that you want to move into another course. Thats totaly different to the transfer windows open to you after the few years in Commercial Computing - which is the idea of the course.

    Hope that helps!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭pointofnoreturn


    Lads dont be getting confused here.

    1) Mairead Meagher is the course leader of the BSc (Hons) in Applied Computing. If you wish to go directly into that course, ask her.

    2) Mary Lyng is the course leader of the certificate course in Commercial Computing (discussed at length here). If you want to know more about it, ask her. If you want to know can you transfer after X years, ask her.
    Ok, cool Sully!, thinks are leveled out then! as regards contacts

    So can anyone tell me if it's tool late to apply for the Commercial software development course? i check the dates the course commences (11th Sept) on but and it's just after the week that i've a few repeats, so i'm hoping that it won't hold me up well at least if i pass them all the i can still get accepted.;)


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    You need to talk to the course leader of your current course. He/She will advise if you can move over to the course. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭cyberwit


    The course leader 1st years in BSc Commercial Computing will meet is Mary Lyng
    There are no more Higher Certs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭cyberwit


    I think she may be for year 1,2 and 3, it shows a David Drohan for the Honors 1yr add-on http://www2.wit.ie/StudyatWIT/UndergraduateCourses/Science/BScHonsinCommercialSoftwareDev-WD068/

    The following link will provide you with info regarding transfer into Commercial Software Development the deadline for applications has passed

    http://www2.wit.ie/StudyatWIT/UndergraduateCourses/DirectApplications/

    Deadline was 22nd June 2007


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭pointofnoreturn


    ****! a feck it! i might give it a chance anyways i emailed them about it alight and they said you can go down as a late applicant but it had to go through the board for review so thats what worries me because of my repeats with my own college!. Been their for 4 years! now. In GMIT and it's another 2 years for the Honors and i'm tired of the place, The Course boast about being well recognized in industry! but their not much to boast about it's just Jave, and more Jave their is alot of other stuff but not enough on the business side of things and i've found after doing a few interviews for jobs that your better off having some knowledge on how development works! never mind knowing how to program!

    Is their anyone hear going into this years Commercial Software Dev Course?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,821 ✭✭✭✭JPA


    ****! a feck it! i might give it a chance anyways i emailed them about it alight and they said you can go down as a late applicant but it had to go through the board for review so thats what worries me because of my repeats with my own college!. Been their for 4 years! now. In GMIT and it's another 2 years for the Honors and i'm tired of the place, The Course boast about being well recognized in industry! but their not much to boast about it's just Jave, and more Jave their is alot of other stuff but not enough on the business side of things and i've found after doing a few interviews for jobs that your better off having some knowledge on how development works! never mind knowing how to program!

    Is their anyone hear going into this years Commercial Software Dev Course?

    If you have the qualifications they will let you in. don't worry about dates at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    Hi All,

    I did AC a few years ago (2002 grad).

    I would worry about taking on AC if you didn't get the Maths requirement in the Leaving Cert. Maybe going through CC till you catch up and transferring in 2 years is the way to go. Employers only look at your final degree, not how you got there.

    When I was in 4th year the CC Final Year projects were pretty much the same as our DB module projects. I would get into AC if I were you, but I would wait until you have caught up. You don't want to get in just to fail the maths.

    If you are determined to talk to Mairead, bear in mind that she is a programmer and will appreciate somebody who wants to program. I always found her to be firm but fair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭christophicus


    Thanks for that man. I sent her an email. She seemed to think that even if I did two years CC and then went into 2nd year AC that the fact I did not do well in maths in the LC could still be a hinderance to me.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Ya well Maths is pretty damn tough - even for those who did well in the L.C.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,756 ✭✭✭ec18


    Sully wrote:
    Ya well Maths is pretty damn tough - even for those who did well in the L.C.


    Very true


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭pointofnoreturn


    Hi, this might be off topic, but where can yah look up exam papers for any of the computer science courses @ WIT?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Only some of them are available, and they can only be viewed from a computer within the college network. If you know which ones your looking for (if related to Applied Computing) ill see about getting them for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭pointofnoreturn


    Sully wrote:
    Only some of them are available, and they can only be viewed from a computer within the college network. If you know which ones your looking for (if related to Applied Computing) ill see about getting them for you.
    Ok Cool, looking for the ones for Computing in Commercial Software Development


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭LenovoUser


    Rawr! wrote: »
    Yep.... Not for much longer tho...
    Rawr, take an old codger's advice and stay put !

    It'S ten times worse in the Trinity Computer Science Department, one of the dirtiest and roughest degrees you could possibly do !

    I did the Manufacturing Technology National Certificate in Engineering in WIT back in 2002, and passed it with flying honours, you couldn't possibly be in a better College than WIT !

    Trinty CS Degree is world class, and we students are expected to shed our last drop of blood to maintain the high standard here of being in the top fifty universities in the world .

    And the CS degree here is taking on places like MIT in America, chrissake .

    It's dog rough, easily twice as hard as CS in UCD, most of the class are Geeks, don't ask questions, don't hardly talk to one another, don't dare talk to the girls, don't go out, don't go to pubs or clubs, live for their laptops and programming ( though they fall back a bit at electronics etc ).

    Maths ( not too bad ), Java ( deadly in the written exams coming up and marked unmercifully by Professor Vinny Cahill, a hard man but a brilliant teacher, not approachable ), Assembly ( a Dead Language, tough, but taught by a nice guy called Dr. Jonathan Dukes ) , Digital Design ( foul !, taught by a chap called Dr. Brian Coghlan with an accent that would kn ock Winston Churchill down ! - that subject as taught in Trinity Freshman year has no end, again ANYTHING can appear on the exam paper, Brian calls it a " challenge " - a " challenge " in Trinity is something they have never taught you ! ), Electrotechnology, Data Communications and Networking taught by a nice ordinary approachable guy called Dr. Eamonn
    O'Nuallain ( the programmer Geeks hate him ! ), and finally " Computers and Society " taught by the best of them all, a wily Cork philosopher type called Brendan Tangney FTCD - Fellow of Trinity College Dublin. Oh and there's the Project in Graphics, based on Processing Java language, a really horny twisted one !

    They think nothing of failing one-third of the Junior Freshman class every year, as first years are looked upon as expendable ! Attendance is compulsory, you are allowed two absences a year !!! Otherwise you could get an NS ( Non Satisfactory, two NS and a lecturer could bar you from his/her exams ! Though they're not quite as strict as they used to be, Thank God . This is because in Trinity the lecturers don't depend on teaching ( they do precious little teaching anyway, they get assessed and promoted on producing research papers for the various learned journals.

    But Trinity is a fabulous place to be, though I'm doing a fourteen hour day now for the exams, seven days a week, it's murder ! But, as one of the brightest in WIT in my time ( got 100 % in maths in the final cert there under Alex McDwyer and Annie Stapleton ), I'm hoping for a pass without any repeats in Trinity CS !!!

    That said, anybody who wants to have an easy time in Trinity, pick Arts, history, English etc. Then you'll have a fab social life in the middle of town too !

    You'd be a fool, Rawr, to leave CS in WIT !!! But if you do, go to UCD if you want an easy Computer Science degree - avoid Trinity CS like they're out plague because they're out to beat the world and you have to be an Einstein, a Stephen Hawking even to get a second-class honours degree here .

    That said, you will learn much more practical applied stuff that will be useful at WIT than you ever will at Trinity . And employers know that too - several of the Geeks in my class are unemployable, so they'll probably go on to the staff in Trinity in years to come .

    Stephen Norton of WIT is probably the best Electronics Lecturer anywhere, including TCD, he graduated from here. My own pal Tom Weymss is a postgraduate student down there teaching Maths, he's brilliant !

    BTW You are not taught for the exams at Trinity ! You are taught and shaped into being a Trinity person, Service, Homour, Truthh, important things like that, the lecturers will tell you that and they will refuse to even produce a past exam paper, let alone show you how to do it, you depend a lot on the young demonstrators, and they vary in interest .

    I think you're feeling happier already at WIT, Rawr, STAY THERE !!!

    ( Kilkenny ) .

    BTW The poster who says that C++ is on the way out and that Java is taking over, is right, though we do them all in Trinity . BUT C++ is still needed for a few applications that Java can't handle . Best learn Java off by heart as it will all the easier let you do 90 percent of your work in future years when they tell you to use any programming language you like .

    Pity me.....

    ( Kilkenny )

    Tip : An easy way out in Trinity CS is to take the CSLL Degree here, Computer Science, Linguistics and a Language, that wouldn't be any tougher than WIT or UCD .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭LenovoUser


    LenovoUser wrote: »
    Rawr, take an old codger's advice and stay put !

    It'S ten times worse in the Trinity Computer Science Department, one of the dirtiest and roughest degrees you could possibly do !

    I did the Manufacturing Technology National Certificate in Engineering in WIT back in 2002, and passed it with flying honours, you couldn't possibly be in a better College than WIT !

    Trinty CS Degree is world class, and we students are expected to shed our last drop of blood to maintain the high standard here of being in the top fifty universities in the world .

    And the CS degree here is taking on places like MIT in America, chrissake .

    It's dog rough, easily twice as hard as CS in UCD, most of the class are Geeks, don't ask questions, don't hardly talk to one another, don't dare talk to the girls, don't go out, don't go to pubs or clubs, live for their laptops and programming ( though they fall back a bit at electronics etc ).

    Maths ( not too bad ), Java ( deadly in the written exams coming up and marked unmercifully by Professor Vinny Cahill, a hard man but a brilliant teacher, not approachable ), Assembly ( a Dead Language, tough, but taught by a nice guy called Dr. Jonathan Dukes ) , Digital Design ( foul !, taught by a chap called Dr. Brian Coghlan with an accent that would kn ock Winston Churchill down ! - that subject as taught in Trinity Freshman year has no end, again ANYTHING can appear on the exam paper, Brian calls it a " challenge " - a " challenge " in Trinity is something they have never taught you ! ), Electrotechnology, Data Communications and Networking taught by a nice ordinary approachable guy called Dr. Eamonn
    O'Nuallain ( the programmer Geeks hate him ! ), and finally " Computers and Society " taught by the best of them all, a wily Cork philosopher type called Brendan Tangney FTCD - Fellow of Trinity College Dublin. Oh and there's the Project in Graphics, based on Processing Java language, a really horny twisted one !

    They think nothing of failing one-third of the Junior Freshman class every year, as first years are looked upon as expendable ! Attendance is compulsory, you are allowed two absences a year !!! Otherwise you could get an NS ( Non Satisfactory, two NS and a lecturer could bar you from his/her exams ! Though they're not quite as strict as they used to be, Thank God . This is because in Trinity the lecturers don't depend on teaching ( they do precious little teaching anyway, they get assessed and promoted on producing research papers for the various learned journals.

    But Trinity is a fabulous place to be, though I'm doing a fourteen hour day now for the exams, seven days a week, it's murder ! But, as one of the brightest in WIT in my time ( got 100 % in maths in the final cert there under Alex McDwyer and Annie Stapleton ), I'm hoping for a pass without any repeats in Trinity CS !!!

    That said, anybody who wants to have an easy time in Trinity, pick Arts, history, English etc. Then you'll have a fab social life in the middle of town too !

    You'd be a fool, Rawr, to leave CS in WIT !!! But if you do, go to UCD if you want an easy Computer Science degree - avoid Trinity CS like they're out plague because they're out to beat the world and you have to be an Einstein, a Stephen Hawking even to get a second-class honours degree here .

    That said, you will learn much more practical applied stuff that will be useful at WIT than you ever will at Trinity . And employers know that too - several of the Geeks in my class are unemployable, so they'll probably go on to the staff in Trinity in years to come .

    Stephen Norton of WIT is probably the best Electronics Lecturer anywhere, including TCD, he graduated from here. My own pal Tom Weymss is a postgraduate student down there teaching Maths, he's brilliant !

    BTW You are not taught for the exams at Trinity ! You are taught and shaped into being a Trinity person, Service, Homour, Truthh, important things like that, the lecturers will tell you that and they will refuse to even produce a past exam paper, let alone show you how to do it, you depend a lot on the young demonstrators, and they vary in interest .

    I think you're feeling happier already at WIT, Rawr, STAY THERE !!!

    ( Kilkenny ) .

    BTW The poster who says that C++ is on the way out and that Java is taking over, is right, though we do them all in Trinity . BUT C++ is still needed for a few applications that Java can't handle . Best learn Java off by heart as it will all the easier let you do 90 percent of your work in future years when they tell you to use any programming language you like .

    Pity me.....

    ( Kilkenny )

    Tip : An easy way out in Trinity CS is to take the CSLL Degree here, Computer Science, Linguistics and a Language, that wouldn't be any tougher than WIT or UCD .

    BTW I find that programmers, generally, are the very worst people to appeal to with a problem, they are inflexible ! You are far better off talking to an engineer ( best of all ) about a problem, also to scientists and mathematicians.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭LenovoUser


    cyberwit wrote: »
    FOR those of us whom know what we are studying:
    Current computer courses offered by WIT

    Three years ordinary degree courses (3 years)
    BSc Commercial Computing*
    BSc Information Technology*
    BSc Multimedia Applications Development*

    Four years Honours degree courses (4 years)
    BSc Hons in Physics with Computing
    BSc Applied Computing

    *Honours degrees for those whom successfully completed one of the ordinary degree's mentioned above (1 year after three years of BSc)
    BSc Hons Commercial Software Development
    BSc Hons Information Technology

    Physics + Computing, now that's my style !
    I'm tempted to escape from CS here in Trinity to do that !
    WIT is the best place in Ireland for Applied Science/Electronics .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭LenovoUser


    cyberwit wrote: »
    FOR those of us whom know what we are studying:
    Current computer courses offered by WIT

    Three years ordinary degree courses (3 years)
    BSc Commercial Computing*
    BSc Information Technology*
    BSc Multimedia Applications Development*

    Four years Honours degree courses (4 years)
    BSc Hons in Physics with Computing
    BSc Applied Computing

    *Honours degrees for those whom successfully completed one of the ordinary degree's mentioned above (1 year after three years of BSc)
    BSc Hons Commercial Software Development
    BSc Hons Information Technology

    WIT also has the best Automation and Control Technology course in the country, I know, I did it, final eng cert, 2002 under a fabulous lecturer called Paul Allen . got a B -

    And anybody for Maths ? UCC has the reputation there !

    Trinity now has the best CS Degree in the British Isles.
    But we sweat blood to hold that reputation, it ain't easy !
    We're up against the best that the Yanks and the Japs and the Germans have now, wish us luck - and several of them are in CS in Trinity, but it's blood, sweat and tears , man. How I yearn for WIT at times, it's civilised there compared to CS TCD, but we get on to Artifical Intelligence in Third Year ( Junior Sophister ).
    ALL degrees in Trinity are not that tough, how I look over in envy at Sociology, they're usually in the Pav, the college pub, you're welcome .

    Agh I think I'll switch to Theology - and tranquiliity !!!

    Keep up the good work in WIT, still the best IT in Ireland, recognised abroad too . WIT a university ? You mightn't like that, because then the lecturers lose interest in teaching and go for research and publications, the sure way to promotion in the Uni's .

    And Uni lecturers don't do things like lock the classroom door, chalk next week's final exam paper up on the board - with all the solutions, and tell us with a grin, " take it down fast lads, I have to wipe it off ! " A fabulous WIT Lecturer did that for us in 2002, we who got up into the ninety per cent will remain always grateful to that kind soul ! He shall remain nameless forever .

    ( He left WIT afterwards for a top job in Galway , he deserved that job because he will look after hopeless cases wherever he goes, all I dare say ) .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭LenovoUser


    Sully wrote: »
    Awh thanks, im glad you think so highley of me :D



    No, but clearly you got offended when I said Commercial Computing was supposed to be ****e. You went of on a big rant, so much you posted twice :D

    I offered my opinion, and you offered yours. Face facts man, there two different courses and one is clearly better then the other! I didnt really provide inaccurate information, you can never get an accurate review on a course. Commercial is ****e by some peoples standards, and award winning by yours. Nobody can ever win that argument really.

    This discussion started as a dicussion between Applied Computing or Computer Science, but ended up as a debate on Commercial Computing being ****e, which course did what Maths topic first, which course students can spell better and then stating the other IT Related courses (which I commented on with as much accuracy as possible, as the college is never going to be fully honest about it).



    Well when I was in 6th year, thats not what I was told by the college. Things must have changed, forgive me for not keeping an eye on changes of a course I have no interest in.



    Thanks for that useful piece of information. Ill value that, amongst your other posts. ;)
    Any computing cert from WIT is looked upon with special favour by the Trinity CS Interviewing Board - BUT best have top marks in Maths, and if you have Electrics, you're in ! Don't celebrate too soon though, that Junior Freshman CS Course in Trinity is now the toughest anywhere in the world. We suffer gladly though that year because we know that the Department is taking on the best in the world in Computer Science, to put Ireland on the map, and that is a cause worth fighting for. And if you can't stand the heat of that first year, no problem - UCD will take Trinity First Years into their second year ( where you can relax after the battle ) with open arms/. I am certain that there are students in WIT who can come to Trinity CS and help us, help Trinity, help Ireland, and help yourselves !

    Regarding your little argument, I remember a time when I found Access database tough in WIT - and Electronics, Maths, Computing, Automation and Control, and Manufacturing Technology easy !!! It depends on what type of a brain one has. And some people from commercial computing backgrounds make excellent programmers - though they do struggle with Electrotechnology and Telecoms .But everybody somehow mullocks through - you need massive energy and dedication, hard work, and you'll get through in the end. No " genius " can afford to come to CS in Trinity and sit back, it's not that type of course - he would fail the exams !

    BTW, Just one year in that Physics+Computing degree in WIT, and you would be welcome into Trinity CS with open arms !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    thats all well and good lenovouser, but you're answering posts from 2007


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭stick-dan


    What is the point is dragging up a thread from what 2007 :O

    This is of no relevance now and should not even be thanked.

    Put the thread back where it belongs,
    in the past....


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    stick-dan wrote: »
    What is the point is dragging up a thread from what 2007 :O

    This is of no relevance now and should not even be thanked.

    Put the thread back where it belongs,
    in the past....

    How is it of no relevance? The poster may have dug up the thread but he has made a decent contribution and therefore the topic will remain open and I have no issues thanking the poster for his contribution and an insight into things.

    Neither of the courses are closed for applications so future applications for such courses may find his comments very useful.

    Any further issues by PM please. Thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭LenovoUser


    Sully wrote: »
    How is it of no relevance? The poster may have dug up the thread but he has made a decent contribution and therefore the topic will remain open and I have no issues thanking the poster for his contribution and an insight into things.

    Neither of the courses are closed for applications so future applications for such courses may find his comments very useful.

    Any further issues by PM please. Thanks.

    Thanks.
    As I replied a while ago to a " lucky " WITer who is coming to Trinity CS, " you might be better to stay a mile away ! "
    As Prof Vinny Cahill says, " Eating or sleeping are no excuse for not handing up an assignment ".
    We are the dogsbodies of TCD .
    We are the Elite

    As a JF in Trinity CS you become living proof that time shrinks !

    That says, it gets much easier when you get through the JF year, from then on -
    and it's worth it too - some people actually enjoy it !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭LenovoUser


    BTW for all jobs that arise in Trinity, students must get first preference - and they do !
    For emergencies there is a damned good welfare system that will help you with cash.
    For a small emergency you will be handed a hundred euro in cash to be paid back in a month !
    You don't have to buy any of your course books - Trinity Library has stacks of them all.
    There is a fabulous tutor's system, where you are assigned your own tutor who acts as the contact between you and the college, basically he will act as your lawyer and defend and plead for you if you're in a spot .

    The bad news is that there are very few, if any, ladies in CS in Trinity or any other CS worldwide, yet women do make excellent programmers . , this is a matter that is giving rise to doctoral theses !


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