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US: 2X15 - "Maternity Leave" [**SPOILERS WITHIN**]

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭assassin_ie


    Its possible that Locke only reacted in that way as he new thats what Henry wanted to hear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,473 ✭✭✭Roddy23


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    Its possible that Locke only reacted in that way as he new thats what Henry wanted to hear.


    I think this is a valid point, as he flipped out way too easily for me, as he knew that Gale had good hearing.

    I'd give it a solid 8. A lot of the back story was cleared up and was interesting to see Ethan and Zeke together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭duridian


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    That or it was just a normal ailment like Jack said.
    True, I may be reading too much into it. Though I also thought that at one point in the flashbacks, where they showed Ethan's hand extended towards Claire for a second or two, that Ethan's right hand seemed to have the reddish blotchy rash as well around the wrist area.
    I'd also agree that Locke's reaction to what Henry said seemed a bit extreme by Locke's styandards of cool, calm and collected behaviour, so it could have been just a put on to see if it brought out more of the Other in Henry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭Rollo Tamasi


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    duridian wrote:
    I think this episode showed why the Others wanted Claire's baby. By the end of the episode Aaron had not received any further medication for the illness, yet he still appeared to be recovering from it. This to me would imply that his natural immune system had formed some sort of antibodies to fight off the disease. Would this not make him a valuable asset to any scientist who was studying/seeking a cure for the illness?

    depends on what type of virus it is, maybe the child is just a carrier and passes it on with detrimental effect to the remainder of the losties? who knows?
    Ethan came across as a nice guy in parts of the episode, he seemed fairly geniune when speaking to Clair on that tree trunk. I knew all along that there was only one group on the island.

    also i would just like to add
    ALEX IS HOT! more of her please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭duridian


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    also i would just like to add
    ALEX IS HOT! more of her please
    She is lovely alright. Looking forward to seeing her (hopefully) in future episodes. She was great too in Malcolm. The IMDB says she has a bunch of movies either filming or in post production for 2006. Maybe the Lost gig will help get her some wider recognition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭Rollo Tamasi


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    her name is Tania Raymonde
    She's looking fairly hot here.
    tania_raymonde.jpg

    anyway..back to lost!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


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    . I knew all along that there was only one group on the island.


    so to what group does alex belong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭Rollo Tamasi


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    she is still in with Zeke's crowd, we heard her name called to grab kate at the first meeting between the losties and the others. That lady is for turning thou, she is a rouge within the group. It would seem they are most defiently a commune after Nathan referred to themselves as a family, maybe they rely on brain washing or drugs to maintain group order? and she got loose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭oleras


    Lockes reaction was way OTT in my openion.... what i would assume is we are going to see that scene again from a different camera angle.... like kate in the air vent from the start of season 2..... i can see jack giving locke a wry smile for his acting, oh shock !!!...locke is annoyed and henry takes him in to his world......too obvious, we were told already that henry could hear through the door..... smells like a setup for henry gale.... but could be wrong...lol......

    did anyone read what was writen inside the locker kate opened, tried to but couldent......


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭Metacortex


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    Great episode.

    The others dress up to look like they've been living rough??? Interesting, very interesting.
    So it looks like the others and the Dharma scientists are one and the same. Again interesting.
    Im a bit disappointed they didn't mentioned anything of the button and the glyphs after the last episode but im sure all will be revealed in time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭Rollo Tamasi


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    there is a forthcoming episode called
    Lockdown
    , i wonder what that's about? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭duridian


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    I think there is definitely a connection between Locke/Jack letting the timer go down to zero/the hieroglyphs, and the state of the medlab that Claire, Kate and Rousseau found in this last episode. I reckon that whatever happened as a result of the timer occurred in the medlab and that is why it is now abandoned and has damage to the light fixtures etcetera.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 791 ✭✭✭fightin irish


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    Gave it a full on 10. Only my second ever. One thing im wondering if someone can clear up for me. When Mr Eko is cutting the tree, We see a black 'x'. But at one point there is a shot of the tree and Eko, 12.35, On the tree there is an engraved arrow pointing up?

    Am i going ott here? Is this related to anything?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭duridian


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    Gave it a full on 10. Only my second ever. One thing im wondering if someone can clear up for me. When Mr Eko is cutting the tree, We see a black 'x'. But at one point there is a shot of the tree and Eko, 12.35, On the tree there is an engraved arrow pointing up?

    Am i going ott here? Is this related to anything?

    Just had a look, the black X is definitely there but the up arrow could be just the way the bark of the tree has grown. If the arrow shape is manmade then it looks like it has been there considerably longer than the surviviors have been on the island because there are parts of it where you can see fairly clearly that lichen has grown across it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Sauron


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    duridian wrote:
    I think there is definitely a connection between Locke/Jack letting the timer go down to zero/the hieroglyphs, and the state of the medlab that Claire, Kate and Rousseau found in this last episode. I reckon that whatever happened as a result of the timer occurred in the medlab and that is why it is now abandoned and has damage to the light fixtures etcetera.

    I'm starting to think there's a connection too... one thing that I don't think has been mentioned is the blatantly displayed "escape hatch" in the corridor. I'm wondering how much these others are connected to the ones in Desmond's hatch. Do they all have the same "button must be pushed" mentality? or do they even know anything more about the button than anyone else?

    and how many different Dharma symbols have we seen so far? I'm wondering what other hatch places the losties might find. What one did the shark have on its body?

    I'm not sure Locke was acting. It did seem a little too obvious, but Locke does have a look of genuine concern on his face after smashing the plates, if he was acting, why would he bother? Surely henry couldn't see his face.
    but then again, that might just be him realising exactly what Henry was trying to do, or wondering how to deal with it...

    and I'm guessing that Claire now is accepting what the Psychic way back when told her that "she must be the only one to raise the child"
    But where does that put Charlie I wonder?

    so many questions...

    :confused: tbh


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


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    she is still in with Zeke's crowd, we heard her name called to grab kate at the first meeting between the losties and the others. That lady is for turning thou, she is a rouge within the group. It would seem they are most defiently a commune after Nathan referred to themselves as a family, maybe they rely on brain washing or drugs to maintain group order? and she got loose

    yeah seems like that but i dont know, i know we've seen kate find the 'fake disguises' but there seems to me that there will be an actual renegade group on the island


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭Rollo Tamasi


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    thats more than likely whats going to happen too imo. We are going to see an alliance from some rouge members of Dharma with the losties and there will be a power struggle or a shift of the balance of power before an all out war.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


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    Fantastic episode. But it wasn't long enough! ;) No point going into why, its all been summed up already.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


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    on the first time we see that little film dont they call "the hatch" lab 3 or somethin and with the one the others control/controlled and the one the survivors from the other part of the plane(ecko, ana lucia etc) could they be labs 1 and 2 and could 3 be the only left standing or somethin?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Peace


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    I reckon Eko is building a church.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭lau1247


    just a thought.. if the losties have to take apart the cover that was covering the entrance to the hatch to get in..

    Then when they brought claire in from the flashback, who was out there to close the cover?? Does that mean that there's another door to get into that place? or maybe they just leave it there to reveal to passer by?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭duridian


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    lau1247 wrote:
    just a thought.. if the losties have to take apart the cover that was covering the entrance to the hatch to get in..

    Then when they brought claire in from the flashback, who was out there to close the cover?? Does that mean that there's another door to get into that place? or maybe they just leave it there to reveal to passer by?

    Haha, that's a good point, though I suppose we are meant to believe that not all of the Others are inside their hatch at the one time - that there is at least one of them wandering about somewhere outside.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hyzepher


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    I assume that the hatch door was only covered after they left - in an effort to hide it. While they were inside I would imagine they just pulled back some branches etc

    Hyzepher


  • Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Dapos


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    Brill episode 10/10.... Do ye remember the episode where i think it was jin and eko where hiding from the "others" and all we say was a group of feet passing. There was a kid holding a teddy in this group. Where does this tie into to whole thing. were these the scientists like ethan. If so why were the children walking around with them the whole time. Or were they the real others like maybe when people get infected they become the others????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 146 ✭✭SandyVN


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    Great episode.... 10/10. Did any1 get to see what the symbols were on the toy airplanes over the crib??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 791 ✭✭✭fightin irish


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    SandyVN wrote:
    Great episode.... 10/10. Did any1 get to see what the symbols were on the toy airplanes over the crib??
    pretty sure they are oceanic..cant confirm but you know its true:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭herobear


    Dapos wrote:
    Brill episode 10/10.... Do ye remember the episode where i think it was jin and eko where hiding from the "others" and all we say was a group of feet passing. There was a kid holding a teddy in this group. Where does this tie into to whole thing. were these the scientists like ethan. If so why were the children walking around with them the whole time. Or were they the real others like maybe when people get infected they become the others????

    they were the kids from the tail-end of the oceanic 815 that were kidnapped at the beggining of episode 2.7, remember their parents were killed during the crash


  • Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Dapos


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    ya i remember them alright but just thought it was strange that they were wondering around with the others. Maybe they were abandoning one of the shelters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭Metacortex


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    stevejazzx wrote:

    I know they were marking the trees a few episodes back, and now Eko is cutting them down.
    Im working under the assumption, they are using the wood to make weapons/traps for the 'war' between the Lostaways and The Others/DI


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


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    Metacortex wrote:
    I know they were marking the trees a few episodes back, and now Eko is cutting them down.
    Im working under the assumption, they are using the wood to make weapons/traps for the 'war' between the Lostaways and The Others/DI
    Eko was marking and cutting the tree's, nothing to do anyone else and I doubt he has any interest in making weapons since he has gone religious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


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    Ciaran500 wrote:
    Eko was marking and cutting the tree's, nothing to do anyone else.


    in the screencap charlie and sayid are helping him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cactus Col


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    He might just be making himself a bit of a hut.

    The size of the underground buildings is interesting though, this new hatch seemed to be very small. It looks to me like this hatch was being used for the sole purpose of delivering Claire's baby, when Claire escaped / Ethan was killed, they may have thought it prudent to give up on taking Claire and the baby again, and so the hatch wasn't needed.

    After watching the episode I did think that Gale might be an other, sent to the losties to make out the list of the good. I'm not sure yet though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭shuushh


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    yeh good episode actually the last few episodes now have been very very good

    locke defintley over reacted it would be a nice twist if he was just faking it


    where has Sayid gone ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


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    Cactus Col wrote:
    The size of the underground buildings is interesting though, this new hatch seemed to be very small. It looks to me like this hatch was being used for the sole purpose of delivering Claire's baby, when Claire escaped / Ethan was killed, they may have thought it prudent to give up on taking Claire and the baby again, and so the hatch wasn't needed.

    The fact that the Others wear normal clothes when they're not in the jungle indicates that they must be living in a pretty big underground complex, much bigger than anything we've seen yet, with plenty of air-conditioning and other mod cons. They only want the Flight 815 survivors to think they're roughing it. For all we know, the Others may even be spending time off the island somehow.

    Interesting to see how kind Ethan was to Claire as well. It reminded me of Rousseau saying that the Others "lie". Of course he wanted Claire to go along with what was happening to her, but he was gently persuasive about it for a guy we know to be a psychotic killer. Although maybe he was just getting sweet on her. Who could blame him...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭PullMyFinger!


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    A solid 8/9 from me. Finally we're getting a few answers ;)

    Locke's reaction to Gale seemed to be real, if he was faking then all he had to do was knock some pans over and not be facially angry.

    Im still convinced Locke is one of the Others - for the greater good of course!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭ubu


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    Good Episode, nice to get a bit of plot development, although they're ignoring alot of other aspects of the plot and focusing almost exclusivly on the story with Claire, for example:

    After Sawyer took all the guns, nothing happened, surely the rest of the losties would have done something about this and not just let this happen (esp Jack),
    Also we havent seen Anna Lucia in a while, ever since jack said it to her about starting an Army afaik, also Sayid was nowhere to be seen neither has Charlie after his subversive side was seen helping sawyer take control of the guns.
    Micheals disappeared into the jungle searching for Walt, obviously he is not meant to find him as it affects the way the story is going, but it would be nice to know he's still alive!

    The look Locke gave Henry Gale in the room when he said it to him first suggested he knew what he was up to so the over reaction afterwards was a bit of a surprise to me, especially as he knows he can hear everything, so i hope it was acting on his behalf.

    all that said, im really enjoying it, i watched all the first series and up to here in the second series in the last 2 weeks and now ive finally caught up ive to wait another 2 weeks for the next episode?! its going to be tough!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


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    stevejazzx wrote:
    in the screencap charlie and sayid are helping him
    Are you talking about the caps you posted earlier? http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimagepopup&pid=62802&fullsize=1

    If so they are using bambo, they look nothing like the tree's Eko was marking and cutting down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


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    Ciaran500 wrote:
    Are you talking about the caps you posted earlier? http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimagepopup&pid=62802&fullsize=1

    If so they are using bambo, they look nothing like the tree's Eko was marking and cutting down.

    your right we'll have to wait for that


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭PullMyFinger!


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    Did anyone notice the "Catch A Falling Star" lullaby song in the cot when Ethan is showing Claire around in the flashback?

    Didnt she say something to the hypnotist way back in Season 1 that she wanted the adoptive parents to play this to her (then unborn) child?

    How would Dharma know this? Unless he too is a Dharma employee?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


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    Good point. We know Dharma were involved in psychic research with remote viewing so it stands to reason that they could have a genuine psychic working for them to encourage Claire to get on the plane. Then again, he wouldn't have to be psychic at all. He could have found out about her being pregnant from her doctor somehow. It's looking more and more like some or all of the castaways were manipulated into boarding Flight 815.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭PullMyFinger!


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    Claire's face also went a bit strange when the song started to play IIRC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


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    Super episode, i was well impressed with the flashbacks of claires time away from the other group.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cactus Col


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    Thinking about it now, I have a feeling that Gale might not be one of the others, I do think that there is still one among the group though, and I have my suspiciouns about who it is (the phsycologist, who's name I can't remember)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭20LEgend


    I personally reckon that Henry Gale is who he claims to be.

    If there is one thing about Lost its to expect the unexpected and i think the writers are being a bit too obvious in suggesting that Henry Gale is an "other" (by his actions, things he says etc).

    So i wouldnt be suprised if the whole thing is spun on its head and as has already been discussed it will turn out he's not an other and another member of the camp will be found to be one


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


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    20LEgend wrote:
    I personally reckon that Henry Gale is who he claims to be.

    If there is one thing about Lost its to expect the unexpected and i think the writers are being a bit too obvious in suggesting that Henry Gale is an "other" (by his actions, things he says etc).

    So i wouldnt be suprised if the whole thing is spun on its head and as has already been discussed it will turn out he's not an other and another member of the camp will be found to be one

    yeah that s a possibility but if you read the transcript of the whispers from ep 'one of them' its clear that the dharma remote viewers konw henry on a different level..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭Metacortex


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    stevejazzx wrote:
    yeah that s a possibility but if you read the transcript of the whispers from ep 'one of them' its clear that the dharma remote viewers konw henry on a different level..

    Where can you get the transcript of the whispers? Might be an interesting read..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


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    Metacortex wrote:
    Where can you get the transcript of the whispers? Might be an interesting read..

    i think someone posted a link in the herny gale thread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭Metacortex


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    stevejazzx wrote:
    i think someone posted a link in the herny gale thread

    Thank you, i'll go track it down


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭monomaniac


    If you didn't track it down:

    http://www.lostlinks.net/whispers.htm

    It is also very interesting that they picked up talking when Eko encountered Smokey:

    http://www.lostlinks.net/whispers.htm


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