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8valve's vintage meanderings

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,566 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i have another, intact dyna tech, i bought off a boardsie a while back. still in good nick after 30 years!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,566 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i'm curious about that design of rear triangle though - what's the point in having the seatstays attached to the seat tube with bolts if the chainstays are (presumably) brazed in?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,506 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    I have an absolute mint Dynatech in Laurent Fignon livery (size S) lovingly restored by 8valve. Will be up for sale soon as it's too perfect to just be an ornament.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭JMcL


    Seems to have been a type of thing before all pro bikes were carbon. Bike Snob has been riding a Lemond Tete de Course for the past while which is a mix of Ti and CF. Does look lovely it must be said



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭8valve


    So, it has been a while, you could say…

    Up until recently, I hadn't set foot in the shed in over a year.

    My daughter, Sarah, passed away from brain cancer and it left us all utterly and completely devastated; as I've said to a few people at this stage, I never realised that grief could feel actually physically painful and debilitating. All motivation and enthusiasm for anything in my life was completely swept away. It has been a very tough year.

    But I can look back now, not with a feeling of being 'over it', but with a level of acceptance, and learning to live with it, albeit in a very different world, with a very different outlook on life…

    The support and encouragement of my partner, family and friends, and sometimes the kindness of strangers (some of whom are on here - you know who you are - thank you sincerely for your support and very kind messages) has helped me through what I can say has been the most traumatic period of my life.

    But this is a cycling thread, specifically about vintage bikes, so, now that I've recently swung open the shed door and swept away the Indiana Jones levels of cobwebs, I will make my tentative return to the subject at hand.

    A local gent, while on holiday in Tuscany, saw that the L'Eroica event was taking place in October of this year. He asked in a local bike shop and they put him in touch with me. He reached out, we chatted, a plan was made and the following pics are what he'll do the 200km event on, this October.

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    The bike has been built to meet the L'Eroica rules, with some adjustments for easier gearing: 48/39 tooth chainrings and a 11/28 freewheel (rear mech extender fitted, so an MTB freewheel with up to 34 teeth can be fitted before the event), modern sealed-bearing bottom bracket and headset for ease of maintenance, modern brake pads, modern retro-style Dia-Compe brake levers with the obligatory cable routing over the handlebars.

    Derailleurs and chainset are early 80s Shimano Golden Arrow (precursor to Shimano 105);

    Brake calipers are early 80s Modolo Sporting;

    Wheels are Wolber Gentleman 1982 rims on Suntour hubs;

    Frame-mounted gear levers (mandatory for the event) are Simplex retrofriction;

    Pedals are Lyotard rat-traps, with old-but-unused AFA toe-clips and a couple of random red footstraps I found in a box of bits.

    Frame was in a sorry state when I got a few years ago; it's been blasted, etch primed, then given three coats of aerosol acrylic high-build primer, followed by three coats of aerosol acrylic automotive paint, reproduction decals applied, then finished with a couple of generous coats of gloss lacquer applied with a spray gun. Turned out nicely in the dark metallic red, which suits the era of the bike.

    I've a couple of more projects in the shed at the moment.

    Will post pics in due course.

    P.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭cyclocross!


    Looks smashing. Great to see you back on here. I'll keep an eye out for it over there and say hello.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    Jesus 8valve. I'm really sorry for your loss, and fair play to you for picking yourself up and carrying on. That's an unimaginable situation to have to face, process and deal with. ❤️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,150 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    That is an unbelievably beautiful bike. The colour is liquid beauty!. I love the old Wiliers with ramata paint styling (will get myself one one of these years), but that's right up there with the ones I've drooled over. And I'm not even a pure vintage bike nut!

    Really sorry to hear about your loss. Grief is an extremely personal thing and there's nothing that anyone can say that makes you believe that they truly understand what you're feeling, so it can be a very difficult and lonely place even when you're surrounded by people who care. Nobody grieving wants to hear that it will get easier, so I'm happy to read that you're taking things at your own pace. I hope being back in the shed helps, and thanks for posting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭oinkely


    So sorry to read about your daughter. May she live forever in your hearts and among the stars. I've three daughters myself and am close to tears thinking about you, your family, and your daughter.

    I love popping in here when there are new posts to see what shiny works of art are underway, even though I'm not old enough to have lusted over them in my youth.

    The latest one is beautiful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭oinkely


    I actually have a query that someone in here might be able to help with - were there any older steel bikes that would have had geometry along the lines of the Giant Compact (TCR from the late 90s etc). I love the look of the smaller frame with longer seat tube as opposed to the traditional frame geometry with the saddle on a very short seatpost with long seat stays etc?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭8valve


    I'm open to correction but as far as I am aware, that sloping top tube geometry on road bikes only became prevalent in the late 90s with aluminium (and subsequently, carbon) frames. I'm sure a modern artisan frame builder will be happy to build you one, but are you prepared to sell a kidney?

    Something tells me it was originally borrowed from MTB frames by the likes of Mike Burrows, but again, I'm open to correction on that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭8valve


    Thank you, everyone for your posts, messages and those of you who have reached out to me externally with words of support; it is genuinely very much appreciated.

    P.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭8valve


    So, another bike…I actually finished this today.

    I got this frame from another boards member, probably about 3 years ago at this stage.

    It's a Concorde, fillet brazed in Columbus MAX steel, with matching chrome fork.

    It was originally a metallic burgundy, which I felt was a bit boring (plus the paintwork was a bit tired), so I went with a homage aerosol paintjob and repro decals in the iconic PDM team colours….with a little bit of artistic licence!

    As it's too small for me (54, from memory) I built it to appeal to someone who just wants something usable, with a bit of retro-cool. Perfect for leisurely spins or a relaxed ride to the local cafe…it will certainly stand out amongst all the modern carbon and aluminum machines as a conversation piece.

    Rear spacing is 130mm, so it'll take a modern wheelset; its currently on a uniglide rear 7spd ultegra hub, with dura ace front hub; both are laced to Wolber TX Profil rims.

    Derailleurs are 7402 8speed dura ace, with shifting done with modern Claris 8spd shifters (yes, it actually works!).

    Chainset is an 8spd Sachs New Success (were they made for Sachs by Campagnolo? It looks very very like old 1990s Chorus?) simply because it suits the vibe of the bike and looks cool.

    I've fitted a quill stem adapter with modern stem and flat-topped handlebars, but this can all be easily swapped out for a more traditional set-up should its future owner prefer those aesthetics; seatpost and saddle are also modern items.

    I built this simply beacuse it's a quality frameset that I wanted to save, and it's built for someone to enjoy.

    I'll let the pics tell the rest of the story.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭8valve


    So, to follow on from the Faggin that I recently did for a local gent heading to this year's L'Eroica in Tuscany in October…

    A friend of his fancies taking part as well, and asked me to refurbish his old Basso, bought from O'K Cycles in Carrick on Suir, back in 1982/83.

    Full stripdown and rebuild, new bearings, cables/housings, tyres, tubes, chain, freewheel, chainrings, toeclips/footstraps, bartape and brake lever hoods.

    Frame was resprayed at some point in the late 80s and I was worried that the paint was gone 'dead', but vigorous cleaning, liberal application of Autoglym Super Resin Polish and a few coats of carnauba auto wax (and a fu(k-ton of elbow grease!!) brought her back to an acceptable level of shine.

    It had been dry-stored for years, but in a location very close to the coast and EVERY last nut and bolt fought me, every step of the way…..let's just say, if I had a swear jar in the shed, I could retire tomorrow on the contents.

    Anyway, I haven't been beaten by a bike……………………….yet, so here's a before and after pic.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,566 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i see you gave him a little more gear range!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭8valve


    I have been advised by a man who knows, that it will be needed for all those gravel surfaced hills!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,603 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    What is the gearing on that bike?

    I'd love to head to Tuscany but I've done most of my cycling on compact cranks and cassette with 28 or 30 bottom gear that I'm not sure I'd adjust to old school gearing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 448 ✭✭The Ging and I


    You can look forward to old school walking then.

    I have done several Eroicas in Italy and Spain and theres always a vertical wall somewhere on the events. Some you need to know in advance as its near impossible to change gears when nearly stopped.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭8valve


    I've added mech hanger extenders to both the basso and the Faggin, so they'll both take MTB freewheels up 34 teeth.

    With their current cranksets being 130mm bcd, 39 is the smallest chainring available but there are compact 50-34 square taper cranksets available online.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭oinkely


    I've no idea what practical difference one tooth would make but i see you can get a 38 tooth 130bcd chainring. Might make the walls a fraction easier! i was looking at this for my 2000 giant tcr with 9 speed dura ace. the cranks are 130 bcd and at this stage i really want a smaller gear for hills. Haven't ordered one yet, as i picked up a compact 11 speed 105 crankset that i might throw on there instead.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭gn3dr


    Was just going to say the same thing. I bought a 38 tooth 130 bcd inner chairing when I was doing my first Etape du Tour back in 9 speed times around 2004 maybe. Still have it somewhere I think.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭8valve


    The latest one on the workstand.

    This Rossin frameset came to me from a fellow boards member a good while back; I had it blasted and etch primed and it has sat in the shed for the last couple of years.

    I decided recently to give it a coat of paint and some fresh decals; currently fitting a mix of various Campagnolo parts I had in the spare parts pile, along with some Modolo brakes and a pair of Wolber rims laced to utterly bombproof 1980s Mavic hubs. Found some NOS Ambrosio italian bartape that suits it nicely.

    Almost finished, and it will be sold very cheaply when it's done. It's a size 56. Keep an eye out for it in the Cycling For Sale section soon.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭cyclocross!


    That came up beautifully. Great work as always. Love the colours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭8valve


    And now for something completely different, as John Cleese used to say.

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    Frankenbike, using up spare parts in the shed and a frame that came out of a hedge, behind a kerosene tank, a while back!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    This is probably the best place to post this.

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    Picked up this Rudge-Whitworth (Ireland) catalogue 1952 edition to add to my cycling ephemera collection.

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    This light tourer was about the sportiest model costing £17 cash (HP terms offered as for many this would be a major outlay).

    I have a number of other catalogues ranging from a Rover 1911 (incl. the RIC Rover) one to a Dawes 1980, plus a lot of other cycling related maps, guides, books, etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,864 ✭✭✭g0g


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    Is an early 80's Raleigh Bluebird in any way of interest to a bike restorer? I'd love to think someone else might get use/value from it but maybe it's too much of a wreck already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,787 ✭✭✭cletus


    Rather than starting a new thread for this, I figured I'd jump into 8valve's thread.

    The bike below was dropped into my by an acquaintance, on the basis that I've done up a few bikes before.

    I've no idea what I'm looking at, or even whether it's worth doing anything with, so any info would be welcome.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,566 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    a 'falcon harrier'; falcons and harriers are mutually exclusive, falcons are members of the genus falco and harriers are members of the genus circus. whoever named that bike should be shot. it'd be like calling an animal a 'whale badger'

    i'm not helping, am i?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,787 ✭✭✭cletus


    Thank you, very helpful in an etymological sense, not so much in the fix-up-or-not sense 😀



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,566 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    no obvious markings on the frame as to the tubing, i guess? have you weighed it?

    i googled it and what may be some useful links are on facebook, but i'm on the work laptop and facebook is blocked.



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