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Cork developments

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Captainsatnav




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭chrisd2019


    The event centre plot is more suited for a hotel also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,090 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    Never going to happen. Those lads are chancers. This application is, if approved, solely to maintain the value of the site. Hopefully it's rejected and we see a CPO of the bonded warehouses although that will take time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,090 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    Just a personal preference and hope. Those bonded warehouses could be a gem but are left to rot. Owned by a developer who is extremely unlikely to do anything with the site except use the land value for it's loan book.

    Now if those lads were serious about the plan and actually went ahead would have no issue with that either.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    I wish you were right but don't think there's a process for CPO for that though unfortunately!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    There is supposed to be a mechanism to force the maintenance of listed buildings , theres also a vacant property levey of 7 % of the value of the building/site per annum - but there is no liability unless the local authority gets around to levying the fee..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    I think through the LA portal you can suggest derelict buildings, might be an idea to keep suggesting these…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/council-approves-plans-new-16-33407896



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Captainsatnav


    Great news. Hopefully progresses quicker than planned.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭Dbu


    Sad to see they have started cutting down all the boundry trees in carrs hill above douglas village, where the new educate together school is going to be built. All for development, but no need to cut dwn every tree around the whole site..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,583 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Yet another hotel being built on lower Oliver plunkett Street



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 509 ✭✭✭P.lane78


    Will this be redeveloped ..st Augustine church shutting down

    https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-41801639.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I assume knocking it could well be controversial, ( its only 80 or so years old ) , and there's a glut of commercial property in Cork, and it could be tricky to redevelop it for residential.

    So probably will beleft derelict for several decades..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    I think it’s a horrible building outside. It’s like a massive wall of concrete. I would not be even remotely sad to see it go



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭jimbob955


    There is so much tree felling around cork city isn't there

    Douglas

    M28 Route

    Lehengahmore

    Knockfree avenue

    I wonder will they ever try and plant what they have cut down, numbers wise!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    Of the 100s of (if not more) trees felled along Maryborough Ridge’s boundary with the N28, about 14 new ones were planted - some small multi-stem birch and a few oak trees. Some of the trees that were felled were massive. Given the new wall they built is on the same line that the trees were on, I refuse to believe they couldn’t have been retained, at least in part. None of the 100s of trees felled in Broadale or Mount Oval have been replaced

    When Maryborough Hill by Broadale was widened in 2019, a large number of semi-mature trees and a thick beech hedge were planted. Bus Connects, as it stands, plans to remove all of them, despite me pointing out they don’t need to be given the current width of the road. Further back in Maryborough Ridge, in Mount Woods, a few ginkgo, birch and mountain ash trees were planted in 2020 for the new houses. All but one birch are gone now, and most of the ginkgos are dead or falling over. Mountain ash never do well in that area

    I email the Tree Officer quite regularly about new trees, and often don’t get a reply. One I was told was to be replaced if resources allowed (or some excuse like that) was tarmacced over. Need I remind people about the tree paved over on the corner of Savoy now turned into a taxi rank? I emailed him about two weeks ago about a tree falling over in my park. I asked could he have it felled and replaced if it wasn’t salvageable. He replied almost instantly tbf and the next day the tree was gone. I emailed him back asking could it be replaced, and more planted on the mostly barren green area. No reply almost two weeks later

    Not much noise seems to be made about the large number of trees felled on Western Road by the pink clinic. Airport Road anyone? There is a lot of tree planting going on in the city, like in Mahon, The Marina, Douglas Park and on Crosse’s Green. However, I refuse to believe that this makes up for the mass (often mature) tree felling we are seeing elsewhere. Loads of money for robot trees (I know that was a dedicated fund)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    Loads going right across the Northside too. Mind you it was the right season for tree felling so maybe it'll tail off now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    I think there's sometimes free tree giveaways in dedicated locations if you want to take some direct action yourself. They arrive to a spot with a load of saplings and it's free to take them and plant them.

    I'd also suggest read the council's recent-ish "tree" document and get familiar with what their "master plans" are. Then start skewering councillors now and the various consultation/submission teams as they arise (part 8, section 38, etc) with the specific lack of adherence to their own policy.

    I don't mind trees being cut down tbh, It's just a shame that there doesn't seem to be a coherent plan around replacement. Or maybe there's no adherence to any plan might be more accurate.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭lostinsuperfunk


    The communications from the council seem very poor around this. There is a Tree Strategy, published just a few years ago.

    "Public trees will only be removed as a last resort option after all alternative solutions have been explored and will only be considered in the following circumstances, based on the written recommendation of a suitably qualified and experienced arborist". I wonder if they could supply the arborist's recommendations for all the above-mentioned cases?

    https://publications.corkcity.ie/view/845483825/2/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    That's the document I was thinking of thanks. I agree with your thoughts here: I don't mind trees being cut down but at the moment it "looks like" there's no adherence to a plan.

    I say "looks like" because they might be doing everything perfectly in the background but there's been minimal communication.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    I am good with trees going too where necessary. For example, the tree I raised that was felled last week was fine to cut down. It was falling over anyway and a safety hazard. My gripe is more that I got an instant reply about it, and it was cut down immediately. Yet zero response on having it replaced. There’s plenty of money and energy to cut down trees, seems to be no money or desire to replace them


    I grow saplings myself and have already had some of them planted around the Maryborough, Togher and Knocknaheeny areas. However I spoke on the phone to the Tree Officer a few years ago and he said they’d love to plant more and asked me to tell him of suitable locations. I named numerous green spaces in my area, not one has been planted on by the Council yet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,583 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Tower crane gone up on the sextant site.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭Deub


    Maybe a false start on that site. They cleared all trees and bushes but the entrance is blocked (stones and soil). It looks like construction work is not planned to start soon. I hope I m wrong.

    The last time they did this was just before the 08 recession. Hopefully it is not a repeat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    There was an article a few weeks ago that construction was starting on the houses in April, but not the hotel yet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,361 ✭✭✭Cork Lass


    I heard that it’s the tallest crane in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,583 ✭✭✭ofcork


    3 year extension to the planning for the tower at the port of cork granted.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,939 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    What does that mean? Three more years of waiting? 🧐



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭Markcheese




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