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Tubeless road - it actually works

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,883 ✭✭✭Roberto_gas


    its alright just keep few tissues and a tube..i sorted myself in 10 mins…same process with a tube just the sealant bit is diff



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,829 ✭✭✭JMcL


    The comfort comes from being able to run them at a lower pressure, The backroads around my neck of the woods are like washboards and 28mm tubeless @ about 70psi feels a lot comfier than tubed (albeit they were 25mm) @ 95psi



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Yeah that's what i meant, its the tyres/tyre pressures that make a bike comfortable, not the lack of a inner tube. I have 32mm tyres inflated to 60psi, while my road bike tyres (25mm) are at 100psi. Both have inner tubes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    No i'm not in a hurry to change over either. I would consider tubeless for racing wheels but not for commuting/club spins etc. I think a lot of people will end up getting punctures in their tubeless tyres because they will try and get more life out of their tyres and they probably won't replace the sealant when required.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,182 ✭✭✭Bambaata


    Im new to the club having just bought a new Giant, whats the best race tubeless tyre and sealant about? Silca sealant and replenisher rated? Im also on hookless rims so thatll be a factor!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭nilhg


    I'm running Gp5000 32mm at between 45 and 50psi, down to 40 at times I reckon (I'm 88kg for reference) with no problems since early spring with plenty of really rough backroads in the mix. With 40mm terraspeed gravel tires I'll run at between 35 and 40psi, that's where you'll really see a difference in comfort on rough gravel surfaces, better grip running softer too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭Gerry


    further update, the front panaracer tlc slick despite not being worn out, got a very small cut on the commute along grand canal greenway. Will not fully seal despite topping up with copious sealant. so thats lasted 10 months.

    Went for panaracer semi slick replacement. a fair bit thicker. not fitted yet, will report back. will swap it onto the back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭nilhg


    Were those slicks the standard ones or the plus version? Plus does seem to be quite a bit better for puncture resistance and longevity, I've had a couple of sets of slicks and a pair of SKs and had none of the troubles I see reported often.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭Gerry


    the slicks were not plus. I got one plus to try it. And one semi slick which it turns out is not plus, but is thicker than the plus slick. Lets see how these go.

    Good to hear you got on well with the plus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Birka


    Would you consider using a plug to give the sealant a hand? I got a biggish cut on one tyre which sealed fine with a plug + sealant. It's no harm to carry a plug or two on, just in case, as sealant on its own has limitations

    e.g.

    https://ride.lezyne.com/products/tubeless-kit



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭Gerry


    have plugs and used them on mtb tyres in past. but these cuts have all been smaller than the thinnest plug or the tool for pushing them in. like, tiny.. 1-2mm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Birka


    I started off using Effetto Mariposa sealant but moved to Muc-Off No Puncture Hassle sealant as it can plug bigger holes (up to 6mm). It might be worth considering if you have problems with smaller cuts on the new tyre. The only other thing that is worth doing is to keep the pressure quite low in the immediate aftermath of a puncture and to park the bike overnight with the cut at the lowest part of the wheel to allow the sealant to pool there for a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,968 ✭✭✭Macy0161




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭Gerry


    I tried muc off also. I do think this was a tyre specific issue. what tyres do you run yourself?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Birka


    It does sound like it was a tyre issue.

    I'm currently using Hutchinson Fusion 5 All Season 11 Storm (to give them their full title...) on my commuter and am very happy with them. Mostly used around Dublin where there's plenty of glass on my route. I pick out any little bits of glass from my tyres every few days and generally don't get many punctures.

    I have GP 5000S tubeless on my 'good' bike and am very disappointed in their quality. No puncture issues as they're used on rural roads but they are falling apart.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,550 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    What sealant are people using these days? I've been using Schwalbe Doc Blue since the beginning but I've run out. I had looked at Silca which seems good but you can't put it through the valve core which could be a bit messy. Anything else out there?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,513 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    I’ve used Stans in the past, but find I’ve to funnel it into a smaller bottle or use a syringe. The last couple of times I used Giant, and Joe’s in smaller bottles that can be inserted into the valve.

    If I recall the likes of CyclOn, and Challenge can be inserted into the valve.

    As you probably guessed, I’ve no preference on manufacturer, as I haven’t had issues with any of them, but allegedly some brands don’t mix too well together if topping up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Suvarnabhumi


    I've been commuting 20km each way for the last year, had a few punctures that have sealed, have changed a couple of tires over the year due to normal wear and tear. On Friday I got a puncture and it was unfixable, so ended up walking the last couple of KMs to work. Got a new tire on Saturday and this morning I got another puncture that wouldn't seal. Unfortunately I was only half way through my commute. Ended up in a taxi. I'll try plugging it, but I never really have peace of mind cycling on plugs. Is there any other good options that'll prevent me having to replace a brand new tire. It's a gravel bike https://www.pirelli.com/tyres/en-ww/bike/tyres/catalogue/cinturato-gravel-h



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,707 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Could it be your sealant or is it simply to large a hole? The best solution, in my opinion, particularly if you are simply untrusting of plugs long term would be to patch it on the inside if it is on the tread. Sand around it, loads of vulcanised glue and a large patch, if it is on the sidewall, I would say it is bin time, but that is just me.

    If the hole is not that big though, simply moving back to tubes might also be a solution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Suvarnabhumi


    The bike shop (Hollingsworth) retaped it and used their sealer, so I presume it's decent stuff. My issue for patching the inside would be taking the tire off. It's a carbon rim and I'd be afraid I'd damage it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭gmacww


    I gave up on road tubeless a good while back. The hassle and faffing about was actually more time and pain that I had ever spent fixing a puncture over the course of a year.

    The last time I got a puncture I ran over a bit of mettle with a screw in it that as it turns out compromised the rim somewhat and now just cannot be used in tubeless fashion. I've seen people try to use plugs on the side of the road that just never really worked and everyone has ended up sticking a tube in which kinda defeats the purpose for me. I've TPU inners on the road and cx bikes. I had (touch wood) one puncture all last year.



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